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On March 03 2012 08:35 TylerThaCreator wrote: "Drugs" is far too general a term. if someone told me they wanted to try weed, then by all means im for it. but if they said meth I'd say no.
pretty much this.
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On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 08:55 unit wrote:On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here? meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider. Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider. I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol. Well Meth is Illegal. And it doesn't start off as an addiction, but meth is VERY addictive and can go to your body being reliant on it VERY quickly. So stay away from it, unless you want your life to go down the drain. One doesn't simply go back from taking meth. So stop while you can.
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Discourage him from taking drugs but keep it civil.
... and never lend him or her money, allow them to sleepover in my apartment, or stay unsupervised somewhere where I keep valuable stuff.
I don't count marijuana / smoking / alcohol, but everything else.
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On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote: And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol.
How many people do you think say that and follow through with it, relative to the amount of people that fail to get away? I just see this as a more deadly equivalent to a "i know i'm naturally talented so I can definitely go pro at SC2" blog, where instead of caving after a week you can't cave for the rest of your life.
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did u just say ur not gunna get that much addicted? u sound so naive. you dont choose how addicted u get. smarten up
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First of all, you sound pretty uninformed if you want to take "drugs" but don't know what MDMA is and think that LSD will have mild alcoholic-like effects on you.
Go to a website called "The Shroomery" and educate yourself before you jump into anything. It's one of the best communities out there. As for your question, I would encourage people who want to try certain drugs - weed, salvia, LSD, LSA, if they're prepared and have no history of schyzophrenia in their family. I would discourage or cut ties with people who try opiates or meth. There's simply no reason to use them, unless you're a rockstar and you're planning on ODing at 40, or that you're prepared to become human trash.
Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
Edit : are you serious? "Not gonna get THAT addicted"? Do you know that taking heroin twice in a month is enough to have you hooked for life? Just smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday for a week and you'll see what addiction is.
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On March 03 2012 09:09 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote:On March 03 2012 08:55 unit wrote:On March 03 2012 08:43 johnnywup wrote: are we talking cocaine or weed here? meth, which is just as bad as cocaine...really weed is the best choice for what he wants OP seems to have no clue what he's attempting to get himself into to OP, go learn your shit and come back with better knowledge about what meth will do to you before you try it. I can live with you doing whatever since it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form but I have an intense dislike of people doing stuff that they think will be completely different from what they're actually doing, don't do things in ignorance On March 03 2012 09:00 DreamChaser wrote: Oh shit, i thought that myabe this was about weed, but Meth is some pretty fucked up shit. I have never seen or met anyone normal who goes "Yea im a meth user" Meth is a whole different animal from weed, weed i could give 2 shits less about. I'm not going to call you an idiot for trying it i would just strongly suggest you reconsider. Thank for your input, I will become more knowledgeable and reconsider. On March 03 2012 09:02 johnnywup wrote: Go watch requiem for a dream, OP. I really dislike that scene where one of the characters goes to a doctor with his infected arm and the doctor just screws him and calls the police instead of helping him which ends with amputing his hand in the prison in the end. I think in normal world the doctor would help him. And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol. Well Meth is Illegal. And it doesn't start off as an addiction, but meth is VERY addictive and can go to your body being reliant on it VERY quickly. So stay away from it, unless you want your life to go down the drain. One doesn't simply go back from taking meth. So stop while you can.
On March 03 2012 09:12 rawb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 09:02 beetlelisk wrote: And I'm not going to get THAT much addicted, no lol. How many people do you think say that and follow through with it, relative to the amount of people that fail to get away? I just see this as a more deadly equivalent to a "i know i'm naturally talented so I can definitely go pro at SC2" blog, where instead of caving after a week you can't cave for the rest of your life.
On March 03 2012 09:39 Kojak21 wrote: did u just say ur not gunna get that much addicted? u sound so naive. you dont choose how addicted u get. smarten up Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it. Maybe it really would be hard to go back from taking it. TBH I wouldn't ever consider it if coffee would work on me as it used to - I could get kinda high on coffee (feeling euphoria, being more communicative / talkative, full of energy and doing things with speed) and that's the exact effect I desire, nothing more. Now I drink 3 super strong coffees and nothing happens, I can even go to sleep after 1. Well fuck, now I have to sound naive. The kid got used to get high on coffee so he wants meth lol HAHAHAHA. Oh Jesus.
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On March 03 2012 10:01 Kukaracha wrote: First of all, you sound pretty uninformed if you want to take "drugs" but don't know what MDMA is and think that LSD will have mild alcoholic-like effects on you.
Go to a website called "The Shroomery" and educate yourself before you jump into anything. It's one of the best communities out there. As for your question, I would encourage people who want to try certain drugs - weed, salvia, LSD, LSA, if they're prepared and have no history of schyzophrenia in their family. I would discourage or cut ties with people who try opiates or meth. There's simply no reason to use them, unless you're a rockstar and you're planning on ODing at 40, or that you're prepared to become human trash.
Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
Edit : are you serious? "Not gonna get THAT addicted"? Do you know that taking heroin twice in a month is enough to have you hooked for life? Just smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday for a week and you'll see what addiction is. I didn't write anywhere that I want to take drugs in general, I asked how you see people that want to do that. I also didn't write that LSD has the same effect as alcohol (LOL), I just wrote that alcohol is enough for me so I'm not gonna really look for more. Thanks for "The Shroomery", I will look into it. I'm not considering heroin and I am already smoking so I know what addiction is and how hard it is to get rid of it.
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Taking hard drugs is always a bad idea, stick to pot and/or shrooms.
Taking drugs in general to solve discontent in life is the sign that there is a larger problem. Drugs are a short term solution, when you come down, whatever problem there was is still going to be there. Although it's always easier said than done, everyone on the internet has the answers, etc. etc. maybe take a look at your life, and figure out where this is coming from.
Highly recommend exercise. It makes you feel so good, and it has a shit ton of health benefits. If you need adrenaline, maybe start rock climbing, bungee jumping, skydiving etc.
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I have smoked meth (Was addicted for about a year) when I was younger/stupid. you will start to develope cravings/withdrawls after using it maybe 5-10 times (and without any warning). The amount of "good feeling" you get from using it is completely and totally not worth it when you start to feel incredibly sick (nasuea headaches body cramps) and depressed ( suicidal and zero motivation ) AT ALL TIMES you are not taking it. Basically you trade 10-15 minutes of feeling good for extreme misery ANYTIME you are NOT on it. completely not worth it. And anytime you cant get ahold of it is pretty much the most darkest/miserable feelings in the world for you. Your life will soon start to feel like its not even worth living unless you are on meth. its a bad bad way to go. Please do not try it. its not even much of a good feeling drug compared to other drugs like crack xtc coke heroin etc.
Try acid or shrooms or mesciline(hardcore trips) if you must experiment with more hardcore drugs. And make sure you research it ALOT before you try them and always use them with a designated sober "watcher" around you.
I really hope you dont try meth. I cant stress enough how much you WILL regret it.
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I've learned from my experiences with a variety of substances that drugs are bad, and they can never lead to good.
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On March 03 2012 10:01 Kukaracha wrote: Here's a little quote : "after years of dealing with drug people, I learned that you can turn your back on a person... but never turn your back on a drug."
fear and loathing?
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Yep, and I saw the isolated quote in a 1200 micrograms song.
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On March 03 2012 10:27 A3iL3r0n wrote: Taking hard drugs is always a bad idea, stick to pot and/or shrooms.
Taking drugs in general to solve discontent in life is the sign that there is a larger problem. Drugs are a short term solution, when you come down, whatever problem there was is still going to be there. Although it's always easier said than done, everyone on the internet has the answers, etc. etc. maybe take a look at your life, and figure out where this is coming from.
Highly recommend exercise. It makes you feel so good, and it has a shit ton of health benefits. If you need adrenaline, maybe start rock climbing, bungee jumping, skydiving etc. Yeah I really should start exercising. Maybe all of my problems come to it. You made me start wondering what is wrong with that I want to take meth. It's really that I crave for stimulation, maybe I need some sport like you said...
On March 03 2012 10:34 Coagulation wrote: I have smoked meth (Was addicted for about a year) when I was younger/stupid. you will start to develope cravings/withdrawls after using it maybe 5-10 times (and without any warning). The amount of "good feeling" you get from using it is completely and totally not worth it when you start to feel incredibly sick (nasuea headaches body cramps) and depressed ( suicidal and zero motivation ) AT ALL TIMES you are not taking it. Basically you trade 10-15 minutes of feeling good for extreme misery ANYTIME you are NOT on it. completely not worth it. And anytime you cant get ahold of it is pretty much the most darkest/miserable feelings in the world for you. Your life will soon start to feel like its not even worth living unless you are on meth. its a bad bad way to go. Please do not try it. its not even much of a good feeling drug compared to other drugs like crack xtc coke heroin etc.
Try acid or shrooms or mesciline(hardcore trips) if you must experiment with more hardcore drugs. And make sure you research it ALOT before you try them and always use them with a designated sober "watcher" around you.
I really hope you dont try meth. I cant stress enough how much you WILL regret it. It's good to have insight from someone who was taking it thanks for posting!
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On March 03 2012 10:09 beetlelisk wrote: Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it. So you say you wouldn't get addicted to it, then you say you crave it DESPITE NEVER HAVING TAKEN IT BEFORE? Dude listen to yourself, based on what you just said do you really believe that you can withstand cravings on the level of meth? If you can't handle feeling depressed without the high you used to get from COFFEE, the depression you will feel in between taking hits of meth will be a million times worse. I don't have a problem with people doing weed or any soft core drugs of that caliber, but don't for the love of God try meth. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Meth is one of the most destructive drugs out there, I have never heard of ANYONE simply walk away from it unscathed. There is always some aftereffect, whether it be ruined relationships with friends/family, bankruptcy, extremely serious health issues, or jail time. You will always have regrets. My cousin did meth and is now homeless/living off welfare, my whole family has shunned him, and is living in hospitals. Do not throw your life away just for seeking a cheap high.
If you desperately want to feel high, I would recommend doing it naturally. Try sky-diving, base-jumping or some other extreme sport. If you are going to throw your life away, make sure it's doing something awesome and exhilarating like that, not shivering in your bathtub, undergoing withdrawals. Seriously, people have found meaning in life doing that, people who were depressed, suicidal, or drug addicts, they say it really adds new meaning to their life.
Edit: Damn, it appears someone beat me to my suggestion I listed above. Oh well, I guess it serves to re-emphasize my [our?] point.
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On March 03 2012 10:55 PolskaGora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2012 10:09 beetlelisk wrote: Yeah the more comments like these I read the less I want to take it, especially considering my current hunger for it. So you say you wouldn't get addicted to it, then you say you crave it DESPITE NEVER HAVING TAKEN IT BEFORE? Dude listen to yourself, based on what you just said do you really believe that you can withstand cravings on the level of meth? If you can't handle feeling depressed without the high you used to get from COFFEE, the depression you will feel in between taking hits of meth will be a million times worse. I don't have a problem with people doing weed or any soft core drugs of that caliber, but don't for the love of God try meth. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose. Meth is one of the most destructive drugs out there, I have never heard of ANYONE simply walk away from it unscathed. There is always some aftereffect, whether it be ruined relationships with friends/family, bankruptcy, extremely serious health issues, or jail time. You will always have regrets. My cousin did meth and is now homeless/living off welfare, my whole family has shunned him, and is living in hospitals. Do not throw your life away just for seeking a cheap high. If you desperately want to feel high, I would recommend doing it naturally. Try sky-diving, base-jumping or some other extreme sport. If you are going to throw your life away, make sure it's doing something awesome and exhilarating like that, not shivering in your bathtub, undergoing withdrawals. Seriously, people have found meaning in life doing that, people who were depressed, suicidal, or drug addicts, they say it really adds new meaning to their life. Edit: Damn, it appears someone beat me to my suggestion I listed above. Oh well, I guess it serves to re-emphasize my [our?] point. I'm not feeling depressed without the high I used to get from coffee, I just miss it. I guess I really need some extreme sport.
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The most important thing is to educate yourself. The second most important thing is remember that almost everything in this world is better in MODERATION.
www.erowid.com
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Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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One more thing don't ever start doing drugs. It's gonna start like this you will feel great and then afterward you will be left feeling more miserable than you've ever been. That's the addiction and drugs like meth are drugs that make you feel great when everything is terrible. Like others have said find something else to stimulate you. I've done drugs and that feeling from it is just a feeling nothing more. I've never met anyone who said man I'm glad I started doing drugs they really changed my life. It's always they really fucked me up and messed me up in a million ways.
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