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Smoke to Hope!?

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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 01:24:09
December 04 2011 09:30 GMT
#1
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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
December 04 2011 09:47 GMT
#2
Water is a more important problem. There's plenty of food, if you search. And what would happen when the addiction hypotetically stopped? They would go back to being hungry.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 09:53:26
December 04 2011 09:53 GMT
#3
I never felt hungry when I smoked cigarretes. But this is a very interesting NPO concept, but since I quit I've become more healthier. I hope other people can contribute to this. Great idea!
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
December 04 2011 09:59 GMT
#4
Neither one of you could ever understand the purpose
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 04 2011 10:21 GMT
#5
Smoke into Hope sounds like a better slogan, smoke to hope could possibly imply smoking for hope (At least when I glanced at the topic, I definitely thought that for a bit).

You do come off as a bit abrasive in your response though, I assume that you're trying to channel the feeling of addiction into sympathy for carnal needs. Regardless of the cause that you fight for though, no need to offend possible supporters if you want to get your project running. That's how the business world works
Hey! Listen!
CoolSea
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 10:25:00
December 04 2011 10:24 GMT
#6
So the therapy that one gets from donating money to the needy would help smokers cope with their addiction to nicotine? Using the quitting process as a way to help solve two issues at once would be cool. At least I would give my next 10 bucks intended for cigarettes to this charity.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 10:58:20
December 04 2011 10:57 GMT
#7
These are my personal feelings as a smoker. If you're interested in reading them they've been put in a spoiler. If not then I apologize for blowing smoke all over your blog. If your NPO ever comes to fruition I will donate. You can hold me to that.
+ Show Spoiler +
Can I just give you money and buy another pack anyway? I'm going to buy another pack anyway


sigh. You know, 80% of a pack of cigarettes is taxes. Every time I turn on a stream I get a face full of clogged arteries and tarred lungs. When I leave the house, right outside is a billboard telling me I'll die if I keep smoking. TV, radio, internet- you've got it all.

Maybe I'll give you $7 so I don't have to live someone elses dream. I never told myself growing up that I wanted to grow old and die after all of my friends. All I want in life is to be a good man and enjoy my few hedonistic pleasures. I like rich French liqueurs. I loved drugs but I gave those up so I could get away from the mindfuck-where are my pants-what do you MEAN we're in Tennessee? stories.

Just let me smoke in peace. I'll do it in my house under the blankets and I'll never bring it up or try to convince anyone else to smoke.

Here's $7. Just tell me where to donate. I wish you luck with your dream and maybe one day I'll decide how foolish I was in my youth and wish for all the cigarettes I've smoked back and my life not to end. But for now, just chase your own dream and I'll help you the best I can if you come around with a tithe plate. solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.


edit- all that shit and I don't conjugate the word feelings properly.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 11:02:05
December 04 2011 11:01 GMT
#8
On December 04 2011 18:59 Snet wrote:
Neither one of you could ever understand the purpose


Pretty sure I understand it, and I think your intentions are good. But I think there are other things to consider as well. Before running out of food, we'll run out of drinking water. And also, smokers don't hurt hungry people. USA should get rid of its obesity problem.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
December 04 2011 11:08 GMT
#9
And what about each country donate the money they use for making weapons. This way we get rid of 2 problems at once.
Possible wars and world hunger....
Maybe this will be too harsh for you, but i have to tell you that nobody (countries government) gives a shit about people dying from hunger, otherwise it could be stopped easily already. It is actually very good for them because it makes a lot easier to control that country. Seriously, one just has to like the american naivity that is displayed all the time. Let's help everyone and cure all disease. Yeah, right...
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 04 2011 11:20 GMT
#10
On December 04 2011 20:01 Bunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 18:59 Snet wrote:
Neither one of you could ever understand the purpose


Pretty sure I understand it, and I think your intentions are good. But I think there are other things to consider as well. Before running out of food, we'll run out of drinking water. And also, smokers don't hurt hungry people. USA should get rid of its obesity problem.


- "Instead of just helping, let's discuss all the ways we can help and which is the best way to help."

-- "Yeah, sure! Let's do this for maybe 11 years or so and then we can approach the public with it and ask for their help"

- "Good idea, then we can talk more about who needs the most help for 3 more years!"

-- "I like your thinking, let's talk about that too and pat ourselves on the back for all the headway we will do and all the help we will achieve after all this discussing!"

- "Jolly good!"
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 04 2011 11:23 GMT
#11
Better than my original idea: "Smoke for Cancer"
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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 11:45:35
December 04 2011 11:35 GMT
#12
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 04 2011 20:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 20:01 Bunn wrote:
On December 04 2011 18:59 Snet wrote:
Neither one of you could ever understand the purpose


Pretty sure I understand it, and I think your intentions are good. But I think there are other things to consider as well. Before running out of food, we'll run out of drinking water. And also, smokers don't hurt hungry people. USA should get rid of its obesity problem.


- "Instead of just helping, let's discuss all the ways we can help and which is the best way to help."

-- "Yeah, sure! Let's do this for maybe 11 years or so and then we can approach the public with it and ask for their help"

- "Good idea, then we can talk more about who needs the most help for 3 more years!"

-- "I like your thinking, let's talk about that too and pat ourselves on the back for all the headway we will do and all the help we will achieve after all this discussing!"

- "Jolly good!"


Oh, so we should find some "saviour" who would take all the money from the rich, says that he knows what the best way to help is, gives it to the poor, and then establishes total control. I think we all know where that is heading... Don't like my post, this topic requires more in-depth discussion, which I don't want to do.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 04 2011 11:38 GMT
#13
Or make every pack $14?

It's not a bad idea, but it seems too targeted, and it's not like smokers are automatically richer than nonsmokers therefore able to afford more in donations.

I say raise taxes on rich people and repurpose military budget to helping world charity. But that's just my inner hippie.

BTW a very interesting short episode of Freakonomics radio podcast on donation and incentives. Worth a listen. Well, every episode is, actually.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 11:58:03
December 04 2011 11:53 GMT
#14
How about you worry about you and let others worry about them? Oh and it's not like smokers arnt doing us a favor. They die early and don't suck down social welfare for 30-40 years after they retire. We should be encouraging smoking not discouraging it. It's the healthy old people I am worried about.
MC for president
tonning
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway111 Posts
December 04 2011 12:02 GMT
#15
Well, one thing is "good" with smoking, but it's a rather bad thing. Smokers usally die earlier, which decreases the population of the world, which is good. But it sucks to die of it tho.
Never give up, never surrender. Winners never quit and quitters never win.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 12:11:51
December 04 2011 12:09 GMT
#16
Meh everybody dies. If they decide to check out early who am I to disagree? No one. I am just commenting that it helps us when the do. There are plenty of peer reviewed economic and medical journals which say as much. smoking is a net benefit to societies with social welfare
MC for president
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 04 2011 12:38 GMT
#17
On December 04 2011 21:09 tdt wrote:
Meh everybody dies. If they decide to check out early who am I to disagree? No one. I am just commenting that it helps us when the do. There are plenty of peer reviewed economic and medical journals which say as much. smoking is a net benefit to societies with social welfare


Well by that logic Snet's dream charity is even worse because it's helping starving people in third world nations, who are contributing to the world's rising population crisis?

I've got an idea for a charity. We have healthy old people and the poor trade their food and medicine for firearms. Then they can all shoot each other (to death, mind you, wounded would just clog the health system). Helps clear out those healthy old people and the ghettos all in one go. The food and medicine can go to us healthy, young, middle classed who need it most.
Logic is Overrated
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
December 04 2011 12:39 GMT
#18
Or how about all those kids spending money to play stupid video games. If they would donate that money instead we could change the world. Seriously this is such a hypocritical idea.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 04 2011 12:41 GMT
#19
I'd rather get my cigs.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 13:01:22
December 04 2011 12:55 GMT
#20
On December 04 2011 21:38 Newbistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 21:09 tdt wrote:
Meh everybody dies. If they decide to check out early who am I to disagree? No one. I am just commenting that it helps us when the do. There are plenty of peer reviewed economic and medical journals which say as much. smoking is a net benefit to societies with social welfare


Well by that logic Snet's dream charity is even worse because it's helping starving people in third world nations, who are contributing to the world's rising population crisis?

I've got an idea for a charity. We have healthy old people and the poor trade their food and medicine for firearms. Then they can all shoot each other (to death, mind you, wounded would just clog the health system). Helps clear out those healthy old people and the ghettos all in one go. The food and medicine can go to us healthy, young, middle classed who need it most.

I don't agree with the premise of a world population crisis and definitly don't condone murder. Just love liberty. Financial.Sexual. Religious. Smoking whatever and op's idea are an enemy to liberty.


Liberty is a natural state before someone takes it from you. Taxes take it from you. Telling you can't kill yourself with cigarettes take it from you. etc. Obviously murder robs you of liberty.
MC for president
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