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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 10 2011 00:50 GMT
#1
So there have been a lot of complaints about LoL taking the main stage in the IPL. Basically, IGN is hoping that by showing the game at its best between its best players, it can pique enough interest from the larger SC2 fanbase to try out LoL.

Did it work?

Poll: Did the LoL finals at IPL get you interested in LoL?

No (65)
 
86%

Yes (11)
 
14%

76 total votes

Your vote: Did the LoL finals at IPL get you interested in LoL?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: How do you feel about LoL after watching the finals?

I am indifferent about the game. (22)
 
28%

I actually hate LoL more now after having seen it. (22)
 
28%

I play LoL, and I don't think it should continue to be an E-sport (18)
 
23%

I play LoL, and I want to see it on a big stage more often. (12)
 
15%

I am now interested in checking out LoL (3)
 
4%

I am actually more interested in LoL than Starcraft 2 now. (3)
 
4%

80 total votes

Your vote: How do you feel about LoL after watching the finals?

(Vote): I am now interested in checking out LoL
(Vote): I am indifferent about the game.
(Vote): I actually hate LoL more now after having seen it.
(Vote): I am actually more interested in LoL than Starcraft 2 now.
(Vote): I play LoL, and I want to see it on a big stage more often.
(Vote): I play LoL, and I don't think it should continue to be an E-sport



Honest answers please!

Personally, I thought it was pretty terrible that they decided to merge LoL and SC2 on the same channel. LoL looks completely baffling to the casual viewer. I cannot for the life of me see how someone can become interested in a game like that from just looking at it being played. But that's just my opinion.

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Logic is Overrated
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
October 10 2011 00:52 GMT
#2
I don't have a gaming rig to play LoL. But I answered no-indifferent.
Support your esport!
Taesis
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada51 Posts
October 10 2011 00:54 GMT
#3
I don't get why people have LoL and SC2 hate. LoL doesn't care about SC2 and we shouldn't care. We should be respectful cause they are still pros TT.
All SC2 enthusiasts are your brothers, look upon them in respect and love, for they share your passion.
BordZ
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia118 Posts
October 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#4
SC2 is completely baffling to the casual viewer as well as lol
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
October 10 2011 01:00 GMT
#5
I don't hate LoL, I just don't want to watch it during a Starcraft tournament just like I don't want to watch baseball in during March Madness. I think this whole eSports cross-over that we're seeing more and more often is just stupid.

More tournaments should be like MLG. They can have multiple games being played if they want to, but run them on separate streams with separate schedules ffs.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 10 2011 01:02 GMT
#6
On October 10 2011 09:58 BordZ wrote:
SC2 is completely baffling to the casual viewer as well as lol


I agree to some degree. SC2 is a hugely complex game. In order to understand all of the nuances you'd have to play for at least several months.

LoL is far MORE baffling than Starcraft 2 though. You can tell a casual viewer "Competitive Starcraft 2 is a game where two players harvest resources to construct armies with the end goal of destroying the other player". The casual viewer should then easily be able to see this unfold, and by looking at the amount of red/blue on the minimap, be able to guess at who is winning.

For LoL, you can tell the viewer "the goal is for one team to destroy the other's main building", but the progression of the game is so roundabout that you have no idea what is going on. The hundreds abilities and items of the game are also completely unintelligible for a casual viewer, while in Starcraft a viewer can look at a tank, or a blinking stalker, and pick up very quickly on what each unit is capable of.
Logic is Overrated
SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 10 2011 01:10 GMT
#7
I like LoL, but I don't really care for it as an eSport. All the ARTS games are really hard to watch if you don't play them (actually the easiest to understand as a spectator that does not play is Dota2, but thats not out yet). Was a bad call to put it on the SC2 stream, it is kind of a bad call to support LoL as an eSport. Its got the fanbase to support one, but it doesn't take as much skill as any of its direct competitors in my opinion as someone who has played all of them.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
October 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#8
I liked the finals. Allz I gotta say is LOL @ QTPie. I haven't laughed that long in a long time.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 10 2011 02:04 GMT
#9
I play League of Legends but I honestly can't watch it. It's 1- 1.5 hours a match and it has maybe MAYBE 10-15 exciting moments. It's pretty dreadful to watch much more fun to play.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#10
LoL is actually a lot more boring to watch than HoN or DOTA. Just the way it is set up doesn't lend to the games to be particularly exciting.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
October 10 2011 02:19 GMT
#11
HoN PRIDE!!
Professional BattleCraft Player
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 10 2011 02:52 GMT
#12
LoL sucks.

HoN / DotA >>>>>>>>>> LoL
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
October 10 2011 03:01 GMT
#13
I think your OP is kinda misinformed...LoL actually has a far larger player base than SC2 (its comparable to, and will probably exceed the WoW player base). What Riot is trying to do is increase LoL competitive exposure and give it "E-SPORTS" legitimacy. I'm not sure what the complaints are against, given that the two games are so dissimilar. IMO more competitive, potential e-sports type games can only be good for sc2 as it gives legitimacy to the entire progaming concept.
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
October 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#14
indifferent to it as an esport,but I enjoy playing it with friends...although to be honest I'd rather play Dota with them...
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#15
dota 2 should crush LoL once it comes out in the competitive scene. It's incredibly obvious to everyone, and everyone that plays LoL that dota 2 takes a lot more skill. Even if it does have a lot of casual fans the players just aren't as talented.
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#16
I played LoL/HoN/DotA, but it'll be difficult to have it as an esport simply because of the difficulty of having it as a spectator sport. It won't be as popular as something like SC2, simply because there are so many items and abilities you need to know beforehand to be able to enjoy it. Also, with 10 people running around the map, it's hard to keep track of all the action. MOBA games can be an esport, but it would simply be much more harder because of spectating difficulties.
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Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
October 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#17
all I have to say on this matter is that I am eagerly waiting for Dota 2 release.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
October 10 2011 03:20 GMT
#18
I play it from time to time with friends but truthfully none of us think it's a very good spectator game. The IPL finals didn't really change that opinion.
Taengoo ♥
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#19
I think that the casters made a mistake by continuing to cast the same way they had previously, ie assuming the audience all played the game. LoL is a game that you have to actually know something about in order to enjoy watching, so the lot of people who didn't know the game would obviously have gotten nothing from watching.
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#20
i think the difficulty in making LoL a credible esport is trying to balance the game between the constant 3 week new champion release cycle. also having a better (or dedicated) in game observer would probably help too, as often the observer for LoL misses a lot of action.
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
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