• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:21
CEST 12:21
KST 19:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over0New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!36Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45
StarCraft 2
General
How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7076 users

Dreamhack Summer TvZ stats/wins

Blogs > thehitman
Post a Reply
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 28 2011 12:25 GMT
#1
Hi there ladies and gentleman as Dreamhack Valencia is nearing I've decided to post Dreamhack Summer results for TvZ.

I'll also be posting the combined results of MLG Columbus and Dramhack Summer to give a better representation of the stats with a lot more games obviously played from two events.

Check out the MLG Columbus results only in my previous blog.

Note: Only groups results and beyond are taken.
Dreamhack Summer T v Z 41:44
0:2
2:0
0:2
2:0
0:2
2:0
2:1
0:2
0:2
2:1
1:2
1:2
2:1
0:2
2:1
1:2
0:2
0:2
1:2
2:1
0:2
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:1
2:1
1:2
2:0
1:2
0:2
2:0
2:1
0:2
1:2
2:0
Terran 48% Zerg 52%
35 sets were counted, 85 matches total
[image loading]

Now here are the combined results from MLG Columbus and Dreamhack Summer:
64 sets total, 159 matches total.
[image loading]

bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 12:47:59
July 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#2
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 28 2011 13:33 GMT
#3
On July 28 2011 21:47 bennyaus wrote:
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...

That is just Microsoft Excel being stupid. Can't do anything about it and yes I've tried.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
July 28 2011 13:33 GMT
#4
Having them on the same scale would be better, but it's VERY minor. I mean, the graphs aren't really necessary with these kinds of percentages.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
July 28 2011 15:07 GMT
#5
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.
Really, play for fun!
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 29 2011 16:18 GMT
#6
On July 29 2011 00:07 ZpuX wrote:
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.

can't. Its just the way office 2010 shows it
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 23:50:09
August 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#7
Thanks man!
The MLG Columbus statistics is slightly worrisome and although Dreamhack Summer seems well within the margin of error, it's amusing that it also indicates zerg favored balance.

Edit: Hmm... it does seem like there were a disproportionate number of good zergs at Columbus.

On July 28 2011 22:33 thehitman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 21:47 bennyaus wrote:
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...

That is just Microsoft Excel being stupid. Can't do anything about it and yes I've tried.


On July 30 2011 01:18 thehitman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:07 ZpuX wrote:
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.

can't. Its just the way office 2010 shows it

Oh really?
I googled "office 2010 charts change scale" and at least three of the top five links described how to change the scale of a chart in office 2010.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group Nomination
Afreeca ASL 8347
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #144
CranKy Ducklings77
CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 99
ProTech16
Trap 16
SHIN 11
Lowko4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17392
Calm 4714
Bisu 3903
Hyuk 1531
Horang2 493
Larva 275
HiyA 204
Killer 165
Zeus 132
Sharp 52
[ Show more ]
Free 46
Bale 28
Hm[arnc] 19
Sacsri 18
ToSsGirL 16
yabsab 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
soO 8
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1260
shoxiejesuss842
Other Games
singsing827
ceh9674
KnowMe197
XaKoH 197
Sick146
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 158
lovetv 10
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• LUISG 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV129
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 39m
GSL
1d
OSC
1d 2h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.