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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
February 19 2012 21:31 GMT
#81
On February 20 2012 05:09 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 07:00 azbcethananderson wrote:
why doesnt idra release a story on how he became a pro

he's said it numerous times. he played bw casually on "fastest possible map" and eventually got good enough to be recognized by teams and tournaments and he did well in those and it just went up from there. I don't think idra started out thinking "i'm going to go pro." it just sorta happened because he's that good.


Dunno if he played much FMP in Broodwar. I know he used to play 2v2 NR20 ZC maps. Basically mass money maps where you build shit for 20 minutes then attack endlessly, was pretty ridiculous. But yeah, before Idra ever started playing regular maps, he played those. After that as far as I can tell he just played BW alot and got pretty good at it, up to the point where he won a tourney to join the eSTRO house. Thats basically his SC1 career for the most part before he technically became a progamer.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
February 19 2012 22:46 GMT
#82
On June 01 2011 14:29 Empyrean wrote:
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On June 01 2011 13:39 moganine wrote:
On June 01 2011 03:24 Puosu wrote:
The false sense of accomplishment that follows you telling us about your unrealistically high targets is a hindrance, avoid telling others what you're going for and you're a step closer to succeeding.


Perfect


It's from a TED talk.

And for the record, I completely agree.

What's the link to the talk?
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
February 19 2012 22:49 GMT
#83
On February 20 2012 06:24 Hawk wrote:
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On December 24 2011 05:11 TheToast wrote:


People like this fail because anyone who does not have the greatest, most incredibly unbelievable passions for esports are going to fail. That accounts for 99.9999% of gamers.


most fail because they suck and dont realize. Passion don't make up for a lack of skill


Passion is what leads to the development of skill. Jaedong wasn't born with godly muta micro. If you don't have passion, you're never going to be able to put in the work required to become a top player.
BW forever || Thall
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 19 2012 23:19 GMT
#84
jaedong poured his passion into getting good though not spending time thinking about going pro and blogging and posting vids on TL
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
February 20 2012 01:19 GMT
#85
On February 20 2012 08:19 LuckyFool wrote:
jaedong poured his passion into getting good though not spending time thinking about going pro and blogging and posting vids on TL


i remember reading one of JD's road to D+ blogs, that was a quality blog.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
February 20 2012 01:41 GMT
#86
On February 20 2012 10:19 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 08:19 LuckyFool wrote:
jaedong poured his passion into getting good though not spending time thinking about going pro and blogging and posting vids on TL


i remember reading one of JD's road to D+ blogs, that was a quality blog.



Can't tell if serious or trolling
"In solitude, we are least alone"
azbcethananderson
Profile Joined February 2012
10 Posts
February 20 2012 02:17 GMT
#87
which ted talk is this from
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 20 2012 02:37 GMT
#88
On February 20 2012 10:19 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 08:19 LuckyFool wrote:
jaedong poured his passion into getting good though not spending time thinking about going pro and blogging and posting vids on TL


i remember reading one of JD's road to D+ blogs, that was a quality blog.

ya it was rly funny coz all the fomos people were totally trolling him telling to drop out and go pro altho he's only in D.

+ Show Spoiler +
No, Frostfire, of course serious. :D
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
February 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#89
On February 20 2012 07:49 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 06:24 Hawk wrote:
On December 24 2011 05:11 TheToast wrote:


People like this fail because anyone who does not have the greatest, most incredibly unbelievable passions for esports are going to fail. That accounts for 99.9999% of gamers.


most fail because they suck and dont realize. Passion don't make up for a lack of skill


Passion is what leads to the development of skill. Jaedong wasn't born with godly muta micro. If you don't have passion, you're never going to be able to put in the work required to become a top player.


if passion led to skill, everyone on this site would be a whole lot better. Jaedong and every other halfway decent pro ever already had displayed plenty of skill before deciding to drop out and quit their job to go pro.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 20 2012 20:30 GMT
#90
Who necro'ed this?

Did the guy die?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
February 20 2012 22:42 GMT
#91
Really just want the TED talk
D:
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
February 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#92
This one, I think: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself.html

xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
February 21 2012 00:06 GMT
#93
On February 20 2012 06:31 Enki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 05:09 blabber wrote:
On February 19 2012 07:00 azbcethananderson wrote:
why doesnt idra release a story on how he became a pro

he's said it numerous times. he played bw casually on "fastest possible map" and eventually got good enough to be recognized by teams and tournaments and he did well in those and it just went up from there. I don't think idra started out thinking "i'm going to go pro." it just sorta happened because he's that good.


Dunno if he played much FMP in Broodwar. I know he used to play 2v2 NR20 ZC maps. Basically mass money maps where you build shit for 20 minutes then attack endlessly, was pretty ridiculous. But yeah, before Idra ever started playing regular maps, he played those. After that as far as I can tell he just played BW alot and got pretty good at it, up to the point where he won a tourney to join the eSTRO house. Thats basically his SC1 career for the most part before he technically became a progamer.


Idra's approach to macrogames and such all of a sudden makes so much more sense

nr20 zc.... rofl
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
February 22 2012 13:19 GMT
#94
On February 21 2012 08:38 netherh wrote:
This one, I think: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself.html



Thanks!
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
February 22 2012 14:50 GMT
#95
On February 20 2012 23:17 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 07:49 Rostam wrote:
On February 20 2012 06:24 Hawk wrote:
On December 24 2011 05:11 TheToast wrote:


People like this fail because anyone who does not have the greatest, most incredibly unbelievable passions for esports are going to fail. That accounts for 99.9999% of gamers.


most fail because they suck and dont realize. Passion don't make up for a lack of skill


Passion is what leads to the development of skill. Jaedong wasn't born with godly muta micro. If you don't have passion, you're never going to be able to put in the work required to become a top player.


if passion led to skill, everyone on this site would be a whole lot better. Jaedong and every other halfway decent pro ever already had displayed plenty of skill before deciding to drop out and quit their job to go pro.


If jaedong wrote about it at D+ level, that's nowhere close to being pro yet, even I had an account at C+ / B - and that's not even remotely close to being good compared to good ppl.
Link to my serious blog, where I am serious and spreads truth, knowledge and "serious" stuff: http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=982066
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