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Looking 4 advice-basic strategy against each race

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Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#1
Hi ppl! Greetings to everyone!

As a very newbie player that just started playing SC2 for about a month (as Protoss), I've watched a daily that Day9 suggested that new players should stick to one basic strategy against each race, as a starting point. So, a new player can, at the same time, increase his knowledge about the game and improve his mechanics/macro/micro.

Said that, I'd like to know some strategies that I can use as a starting point against each race (PvT, PvP and PvZ). Right now I'm avoiding 4gate, waiting to test the new patch changes.

So... any suggestions you guys would share?

Thanks in advance!


Parx

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 28 2011 00:37 GMT
#2
You should go search around in the SC2 Strat forum, use the search function on the top right
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Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
April 28 2011 00:44 GMT
#3
Search bar is your friend. Liquipedia is your friend. If you put some effort in, you'll find what you're looking for.
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Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
April 28 2011 00:55 GMT
#4
What the guys above me said plus the advice that as a new player, there's really no need to focus on the new patch changes. They won't change the learning curve to a measurable extent for you.
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Philippines8437 Posts
April 28 2011 01:08 GMT
#5
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Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
April 28 2011 01:11 GMT
#6
This should help, particularly section 4.02 regarding solid openers in different matchups:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
In fact, that page should help in general.

If, however, one of the builds is not to your liking or doesn't suit your style, there are guides for most other builds here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202400
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Parx
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
9 Posts
April 28 2011 01:12 GMT
#7
Actually, I've researched liquipedia, and I've seen some openers. The fact is that's kinda overwhelming to see so much strategies and don't know where to start... So many choices. That's the reason I was looking for specific advice.

Anyway, I guess I'll pick a random one and start from there...

Nevertheless, thx everyone for the feedback.
LEEKsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden380 Posts
April 28 2011 01:51 GMT
#8
Hi and welcome! I suggest you to check out this VoD: http://www.livestream.com/khaladas/video?clipId=pla_4525edcb-f69a-47d5-8737-5ff6aab532d8
It's a really cool VoD of iNcontroL coaching, and explaining a very solid PvZ opener!

Good luck in the future!
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rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
April 28 2011 02:01 GMT
#9
On April 28 2011 10:12 Parx wrote:
Actually, I've researched liquipedia, and I've seen some openers. The fact is that's kinda overwhelming to see so much strategies and don't know where to start... So many choices. That's the reason I was looking for specific advice.

Anyway, I guess I'll pick a random one and start from there...

Nevertheless, thx everyone for the feedback.

They're actually not that different, though.

After staring at it for a while you will see many of the same motions repeated over and over.
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
April 28 2011 02:17 GMT
#10
Dude, just watch these:

PvT: http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/5043214/

PvZ: http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/5049080/

PvP: http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/5052341/

It's Socke, one of the best Protoss players in the world, discussing what he feels is the fundamentally best way to approach each matchup.
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