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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
January 19 2011 02:57 GMT
#41
When you get warned for the tone of your posts, you probably shouldn't make a "call out" blog with a line like
Christ TL, think please.
Pretty simple stuff.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
January 19 2011 02:57 GMT
#42
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Haha, well done.
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SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 03:00:32
January 19 2011 02:59 GMT
#43
Another example I would user to respond to the poster 3 posts above, aka GG_NO_RE.

You got pulled over, and got a ticket. You feel you have been done wrong. Question the ticket in private like a responsible person, or hit the streets, make a ruckus, and probably have no good come from it.

There's a difference between questioning authority in a good way (maybe a "Hey, this is what happened, I dont get why I was banned, what do you guys think so I can avoid the mistake in the future, if a mistake was made") compared to what reg did ("Yo, who warned me, I would like to have polite words with you. Here's half the story, and not the important half, respond and I'll fester up some more drama")

There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way. Question what happened, but not in a way that makes other people look shitty for no really good reason.
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 03:29:00
January 19 2011 03:25 GMT
#44
On January 19 2011 11:49 GG_NO_RE wrote:
it would be asinine to give him a warning or temp ban him for making a blog discussing this matter. even if you all are die hard mods-do-no-wrong supporters, surely you could allow someone to vent or question authority publicly. yes, TL is a privately-owned site with its own set of rules, but let's not silence anyone who discussing something that feel is unwarranted (while keeping it civil, of course), whether they were right or wrong in the first place.

while i have no comment on the post in question, i do think mods in general can be a bit overzealous sometimes. and as a mod of another website that has around the same amount of members as TL, i can tell you that mods are not infallible.

There are many other venues which Reg could have taken to voice his discontent. The venue he chose was a particularly bad one.

No one gives a shit about someone getting a warning for being condescending. When that same someone makes a thread dedicated to either a.) complaining about being warned for a legitimate reason or b.) attempting to get punishment for other users, known as backseat moderating, the original poster clearly did not understand that he had already been warned, and he therefore needs a harsher punishment.

Also, making a blog on TeamLiquid to moderate it in a poor fashion is clearly a bannable offense. There's absolutely nothing "asinine" about it. There's a website feedback forum on TeamLiquid, and you can also PM moderators. So if the mods did do some wrong, those would be the proper venues to remedy the situation.
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:09:57
January 19 2011 04:08 GMT
#45
On January 19 2011 11:59 SaetZero wrote:
Another example I would user to respond to the poster 3 posts above, aka GG_NO_RE.

You got pulled over, and got a ticket. You feel you have been done wrong. Question the ticket in private like a responsible person, or hit the streets, make a ruckus, and probably have no good come from it.

There's a difference between questioning authority in a good way (maybe a "Hey, this is what happened, I dont get why I was banned, what do you guys think so I can avoid the mistake in the future, if a mistake was made") compared to what reg did ("Yo, who warned me, I would like to have polite words with you. Here's half the story, and not the important half, respond and I'll fester up some more drama")

There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way. Question what happened, but not in a way that makes other people look shitty for no really good reason.

that's fair enough. i was more referring to the act of questioning mods in general. but yes, the tone is relevant.
On January 19 2011 12:25 NathanSC wrote:
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On January 19 2011 11:49 GG_NO_RE wrote:
it would be asinine to give him a warning or temp ban him for making a blog discussing this matter. even if you all are die hard mods-do-no-wrong supporters, surely you could allow someone to vent or question authority publicly. yes, TL is a privately-owned site with its own set of rules, but let's not silence anyone who discussing something that feel is unwarranted (while keeping it civil, of course), whether they were right or wrong in the first place.

while i have no comment on the post in question, i do think mods in general can be a bit overzealous sometimes. and as a mod of another website that has around the same amount of members as TL, i can tell you that mods are not infallible.

There are many other venues which Reg could have taken to voice his discontent. The venue he chose was a particularly bad one.

No one gives a shit about someone getting a warning for being condescending. When that same someone makes a thread dedicated to either a.) complaining about being warned for a legitimate reason or b.) attempting to get punishment for other users, known as backseat moderating, the original poster clearly did not understand that he had already been warned, and he therefore needs a harsher punishment.

Also, making a blog on TeamLiquid to moderate it in a poor fashion is clearly a bannable offense. There's absolutely nothing "asinine" about it. There's a website feedback forum on TeamLiquid, and you can also PM moderators. So if the mods did do some wrong, those would be the proper venues to remedy the situation.

i disagree that this was a bad venue if he wanted to be able to discuss this with other users. conversely, a private message to the mods would be just that: private/not discussed publicly. perhaps the tone was poor or something, but i don't think making a TL blog to discuss the issue is a bad venue in principle.

i'm not sure on 'backseat modding' as you call it, either. if there was a principle or rule that is not applied fairly, i don't see why this can't be discussed publicly.

i also think the topic of blogs is wide-ranging; indeed anything can be blogged about. many blogs discuss starcraft, for example, and they need not necessarily have to be placed in a starcraft forum. blogs can be anything from discussing, to complaining, to informing, to anything. of course, the content is subject to moderation and the content must be non-offensive, but again i find nothign wrong in principle with someone questioning authority.
NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 04:24:58
January 19 2011 04:22 GMT
#46
On January 19 2011 13:08 GG_NO_RE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 11:59 SaetZero wrote:
Another example I would user to respond to the poster 3 posts above, aka GG_NO_RE.

You got pulled over, and got a ticket. You feel you have been done wrong. Question the ticket in private like a responsible person, or hit the streets, make a ruckus, and probably have no good come from it.

There's a difference between questioning authority in a good way (maybe a "Hey, this is what happened, I dont get why I was banned, what do you guys think so I can avoid the mistake in the future, if a mistake was made") compared to what reg did ("Yo, who warned me, I would like to have polite words with you. Here's half the story, and not the important half, respond and I'll fester up some more drama")

There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way. Question what happened, but not in a way that makes other people look shitty for no really good reason.

that's fair enough. i was more referring to the act of questioning mods in general. but yes, the tone is relevant.
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 12:25 NathanSC wrote:
On January 19 2011 11:49 GG_NO_RE wrote:
it would be asinine to give him a warning or temp ban him for making a blog discussing this matter. even if you all are die hard mods-do-no-wrong supporters, surely you could allow someone to vent or question authority publicly. yes, TL is a privately-owned site with its own set of rules, but let's not silence anyone who discussing something that feel is unwarranted (while keeping it civil, of course), whether they were right or wrong in the first place.

while i have no comment on the post in question, i do think mods in general can be a bit overzealous sometimes. and as a mod of another website that has around the same amount of members as TL, i can tell you that mods are not infallible.

There are many other venues which Reg could have taken to voice his discontent. The venue he chose was a particularly bad one.

No one gives a shit about someone getting a warning for being condescending. When that same someone makes a thread dedicated to either a.) complaining about being warned for a legitimate reason or b.) attempting to get punishment for other users, known as backseat moderating, the original poster clearly did not understand that he had already been warned, and he therefore needs a harsher punishment.

Also, making a blog on TeamLiquid to moderate it in a poor fashion is clearly a bannable offense. There's absolutely nothing "asinine" about it. There's a website feedback forum on TeamLiquid, and you can also PM moderators. So if the mods did do some wrong, those would be the proper venues to remedy the situation.

i disagree that this was a bad venue if he wanted to be able to discuss this with other users. conversely, a private message to the mods would be just that: private/not discussed publicly. perhaps the tone was poor or something, but i don't think making a TL blog to discuss the issue is a bad venue in principle.

i'm not sure on 'backseat modding' as you call it, either. if there was a principle or rule that is not applied fairly, i don't see why this can't be discussed publicly.

i also think the topic of blogs is wide-ranging; indeed anything can be blogged about. many blogs discuss starcraft, for example, and they need not necessarily have to be placed in a starcraft forum. blogs can be anything from discussing, to complaining, to informing, to anything. of course, the content is subject to moderation and the content must be non-offensive, but again i find nothign wrong in principle with someone questioning authority.

You do realize that he was not seeking a public discussion with other users, right? The blog is titled "hey mods," and the content of the blog was directed to mods. This was clearly not TL blog material. This isn't livejournal, this isn't Facebook, this isn't 4chan.

Furthermore, empirical evidence (i.e. Reg is now banned) leads to the conclusion that this was a bad venue.
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
January 19 2011 04:40 GMT
#47
On January 19 2011 11:57 Cofo wrote:
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Haha, well done.




**spits soda all over his monitor**

a hahahahahahahaha well done, well done.
xO-Gaming.com || [xO]TheGiftedApe.364 || xO-Gaming Manager.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 08:55:28
January 19 2011 08:54 GMT
#48
I'm an advocate of owning guns, but the way you did it was purely ignorant and doesn't get anywhere with anyone. It's understandable why people are afraid of guns. After all, they are USUALLY intended on killing or hurting something/someone. Obviously, their fears are misplaced. But going around going "fact is fact" and insulting other people isn't going to do anything to help the cause. To be honest, every time I see someone doing this, I feel ashamed because I have to be identified with this persona.
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