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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 22:07:34
January 06 2011 22:04 GMT
#1
When I first started playing BW, I was way behind most people on TL, with respect to skill level and knowledge of the game. It’s been about 2 years since I started lurking this site. 1k posts a year isn’t too bad, I guess.

I haven’t had much time for playing SC2 since it came out (in fact, I didn’t even purchase it for over a month after it was released). I don’t ladder much, but I’m currently somewhere around 1600 diamond, with about 800 pts in my bonus pool. I’ve played a good number of custom games vs some better ranked players (a few are sitting around 2700 pts currently), and I’m generally at a 50% win rate vs that level of player. And I generally face players with a much higher ranking on the ladder than myself anyways, so having a 55% win rate on the ladder isn’t too bad. So I’m probably around that level myself. I dunno where for sure, but somewhere there. Although, this probably doesn't help much.....

And, imo, I’m still awful at the game.

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I've improved, but to look back and think I actually lost that game is embarrassing.....

I regularly get supply blocked, I often expand either too early or too late, my macro slips pretty constantly, my micro can be absolutely horrendous, my unit composition choices are less than optimal, etc.

But, in the past, I was able to make a massive jump in my skill level, in a relatively short period of time. I went from a struggling D player to a solid C- player, able to take games off of some C or higher players.

For anyone not familiar with the ICCUP ladder system, that jump is a massive skill change. But it still means that I have much to improve on.

I’m still at that point now, in SC2, obviously. If I was to put some effort into improving, I’m sure I could. But there are other things that are much more important to me at the moment, and I’m choosing to spend my time on them.

Some things really helped my gameplay when I actually put some effort into improving in the past. I discovered Day[9]’s podcasts and his early BW Dailies, and other sources of info, and my knowledge of the game, and strategy in general, increased dramatically. <3 Day[9].

Since Day[9] is so well-known now, I feel the need to bring up an additional influential source of information that I came across; it was the Zerg strategy guide by Tsunami. Tsunami was a really, really good BW player who was around before my time. However, his strategy guide was still relevant at the time, and is still relevant now. The main reason was that the concepts he preached were very general concepts that are useful in most RTS games, as well as the other races in BW. If you haven’t seen it, you need to check it out. It can be found here. It’s currently in an archive, so, copy it just in case.

Note – this was from 2002. BW strategies and tricks were not fully developed yet (they probably still aren’t, however, the level of play has definitely increased since then). I discovered the guide in 2009, and to say that I learned a lot from this guide is a massive understatement. If you are a struggling BW or SC2 player, you should definitely check it out. Take your time, because it comes out to over 50 pages….. It is far too much to sit down and comprehend in a single sitting.

Starcraft 2 seems to be in the stages that BW was in when Tsunami wrote his guide. From my understanding, rush strategies were very popular at that stage in BW history, yet Tsunami advocated winning in later stages of the game. He advised using units in different ways than most. He also advocated scouting well, denying scouting, defending well, utilizing your units to their best potential, and use of trickery, distraction, harassment, etc. In the most basic sense, he advocated playing better than your opponent, both mechanically and strategically.

The same types of rush strategies are currently popular in SC2 as well. Many high-level players are also attempting to mastering the late-game. They’ll chip away with small advantages over a long period of time, to ensure that they win at the end. Because of that, this guide is still relevant for the majority of SC2 players, even though the game is different. While there are changes in the game, like the fact that you can’t ensnare with Queens anymore, the broad concepts are still the same. It is a beautiful guide, and, imo, needs to be brought into the light again.

So, for my 2k post, I wanna give props to Tsunami.

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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 06 2011 22:06 GMT
#2
I can get behind a 2K post that gives props to Tsunami. Keep fighting up the ranks!
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
xberges
Profile Joined August 2010
Dominican Republic56 Posts
January 06 2011 22:09 GMT
#3
Congraats maybe some day il have 2000...
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 06 2011 22:14 GMT
#4
I really wanna know how you lost that game now
boomer hands
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
January 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#5
C- is better than 99.99% of all players who have ever played starcraft.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
January 06 2011 22:17 GMT
#6
Sup dude.

Congrats on 2k, hope 3k is swift and awesome!

LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 06 2011 22:26 GMT
#7
On January 07 2011 07:14 seRapH wrote:
I really wanna know how you lost that game now

not macroing properly maybe... lol
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
January 06 2011 22:37 GMT
#8
2,7k minerals at 61 supply maybe?
This neo violence, pure self defiance
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 06 2011 22:57 GMT
#9
Congrats man! Next break I hope to hit C- lol, we'll see :/
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9539 Posts
January 06 2011 23:07 GMT
#10
Wait, you were Zerg in that game? And you lost??

Ok, I can see how could you theoretically lose that game, but going by the Replay Progress bar, you lost in the next 1-2mins of that screenshot?
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 06 2011 23:11 GMT
#11
wait, how are you still a zergling lol?

congrats on 2k! and keep playing bw
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
January 06 2011 23:15 GMT
#12
congrats on the 2k and nice writeup!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 06 2011 23:24 GMT
#13
you're 2K, and yet how come you're only a zergling? haha congrats
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 23:41:51
January 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#14
If I wasn't the one to show you Tsunami's guide I'm embarrassed

1k posts a year is about right for me, too.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
January 06 2011 23:49 GMT
#15
Congrats~

C- isn't too bad at all. It means you at least understand the game at the fundamental level and have the potential to become a better player.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
January 06 2011 23:59 GMT
#16
Congrats on 2k posts man! I just checked your profile and saw that the numbers are just too perfectly round. avg 17.00 posts a week and 3.00 posts per day with a total 2k posts. That's just awesome, yo.
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hpty603
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States262 Posts
January 07 2011 00:22 GMT
#17
On January 07 2011 08:59 blahman3344 wrote:
Congrats on 2k posts man! I just checked your profile and saw that the numbers are just too perfectly round. avg 17.00 posts a week and 3.00 posts per day with a total 2k posts. That's just awesome, yo.


3 Posts per day and 17 posts a week? Seems a little...wrong...

Anyways, that link definitely gave me a good laugh, congrats on 2k posts!
I only play 2v2 to see how much of the map I can turn purple ~ Jinro
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
January 07 2011 00:31 GMT
#18
On January 07 2011 09:22 hpty603 wrote:
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On January 07 2011 08:59 blahman3344 wrote:
Congrats on 2k posts man! I just checked your profile and saw that the numbers are just too perfectly round. avg 17.00 posts a week and 3.00 posts per day with a total 2k posts. That's just awesome, yo.


3 Posts per day and 17 posts a week? Seems a little...wrong...

Anyways, that link definitely gave me a good laugh, congrats on 2k posts!


Its an average, which is why it doesnt add up right. He doesnt post exactly 3 a day and 17 a week, its just the average.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
January 07 2011 00:35 GMT
#19
On January 07 2011 09:31 eXigent. wrote:
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On January 07 2011 09:22 hpty603 wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:59 blahman3344 wrote:
Congrats on 2k posts man! I just checked your profile and saw that the numbers are just too perfectly round. avg 17.00 posts a week and 3.00 posts per day with a total 2k posts. That's just awesome, yo.


3 Posts per day and 17 posts a week? Seems a little...wrong...

Anyways, that link definitely gave me a good laugh, congrats on 2k posts!


Its an average, which is why it doesnt add up right. He doesnt post exactly 3 a day and 17 a week, its just the average.


Yeah, but the averages should still add up. If you average 3 a day, it should also average 21 a week. It doesn't make sense for them to not correspond, since a week is just another way of saying 7 days.
u gotta sk8
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 07 2011 00:42 GMT
#20
I demand shout casting on how you managed to lose that game.
I would guess it began with the hidden expo at 5 o clock
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