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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 22:35:38
September 26 2010 22:34 GMT
#1
I want to start by pointing out that I was only screwed out of a few dollars and I recognize this isn't a big deal... but this is more the principle of the thing.

On my way home from somewhere today I decided I would get some gas for my car. My tank was almost EXACTLY at 50% capacity according to the meter (I have a 14.5 gallon tank). The only gas station on the way back was a full service Mobil. Normally I avoid full service stations as they tend to be more expensive, and also I prefer to just pump myself, but I didn't want to go out of my way to hit one of my usual stations.

The attendant starting pumping and then walked to a different pump to get another car started (the pump stops automatically, supposedly). I am not paying particularly close attention, but then I turn my head and glance over at the pump and notice it is at over 8 gallons and I'm thinking "wait a second..." and then I look in the sideview mirror (tank is on passenger side) and see gasoline spilling on to the pavement. Just then the attendant comes running over and stops it at 9.656 gallons.

Rough estimate of spill: 9.656 - 0.5*14.5 = 2.406 gallons.

The attendant starting throwing some powder crap down to contain the spill (he didn't do anything to the part of my gar that got splashed with gasoline from what I could tell). He then asked me to pay 30.89 (9.656gal * 3.199/gal) to which I said "can you refund me for the gas that spilled out" and through his broken english he basically explained that I was responsible to pay it and that he had to clean up the mess, and it was probably my gas tank's fault anyway, but it was just an accident. I didn't really have time to argue with him so after a couple of minutes of trying to discuss it I just paid and left.

Is it really the responsibility of the customer to pay? The problem is the customer can try to lie about how much gas spilled... but honestly if he had said 'it had to be at least a gallon take 3 dollars' I probably would have been fine with that. Unfortunately, I don't think he has the power to do that.

I tried using Mobil's website to look up some type of customer support to ask them about this... but all they seem to have is some e-mail form that might not even be for this purpose. If nothing else I can refuse to patronize this station, but it seems like a terrible policy to me.

Would you have handled it differently?

edit: note: nothing has ever happened to my car before like this so I doubt it was my car's "fault"

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Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
September 26 2010 22:38 GMT
#2
Mobil? Are you sure the gas station you were at wasn't a BP? ZZIINNGGG. No but seriously the onus is on the employee for mistakes like that without a question. He should be cleaning up his own messes and not screw up in the first place.
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
September 26 2010 22:39 GMT
#3
Based on my understanding of how gas pump automatic shutoffs work, I'm pretty sure it was entirely the attendant's fault.

About the only way it should be possible is if he leaves the pump resting in a weird position so that the tank can fill up without the top of the pump's "hole" being submerged, which I would not be surprised by, given he probably does the same shit all day every day.

I can think of no way it could reflect a fault with your gas tank.
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TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
September 26 2010 22:42 GMT
#4
I've never heard of a pump overflowing the gas tank. I seriously doubt it's your cars fault, shouldn't it be the mechanism inside the pump that makes it stop?

I checked HowStuffWorks for the gas pumps, and I got this:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/gas-pump-full-tank.htm

This mechanism has been around for a long time, so it is safe to say there is not a miniature camera inside the nozzle hooked to a microprocessor. It's purely mechanical -- and ingenious.


I don't see how it could have been the car at fault.

I would've acted the same way you did. Probably a little more pissed off because it's so obvious the pump was at fault here.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 26 2010 22:46 GMT
#5
Haha wtf he seriously tried blaming it on your gas tank?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
September 26 2010 22:47 GMT
#6
On September 27 2010 07:46 hifriend wrote:
Haha wtf he seriously tried blaming it on your gas tank?

He said something about the air inside the tank but with his accent I couldn't really make it out.
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
September 26 2010 22:49 GMT
#7
The way it works is that there's a little hole in the gas pump that takes in air that gets pushed out by the gas. When the gas tank fills, that hole can no longer take in air, and thus (I believe) a vacuum is formed somewhere, which automatically shuts off the pump. This should have nothing to do with anything about the air in the tank, so he was probably just bullshitting.
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Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
September 26 2010 22:58 GMT
#8
I probably would've done the same thing, since it cost you 7.70 for the spill, but I'd be pretty frustrated at the attendant. I don't think the customer should be responsible for a spill when it's a full service gas station, since the attendant operates the pump.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 26 2010 23:04 GMT
#9
damn thats weird you get gas filled by an attendant? I gotta do it myself and ive been to gas stations around all parts of cali >__<!

anywho it was clearly not your fault if there are people who should be "attending" to that need
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 26 2010 23:08 GMT
#10
he spilled 2 gallons? that must've been a gigantic puddle. also what's the point of it being full service if he's just gonna auto pump it anyway.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 23:17:44
September 26 2010 23:17 GMT
#11
wow.

I would either a) have flat out refused to pay the full sum and demanded to talk to the owner or b) thought fuck it and have left it alone, I mean there's no reasoning with imbeciles. That being said I don't recall ever having had gas filled by an attendant, or even having seen a gas station that does that. Maybe 15 years ago when I was a kid or something, not sure
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bitter[KALT]
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States138 Posts
September 26 2010 23:19 GMT
#12
Was there nobody else to talk to at the gas station? At least that is what I would have tried to do. Find somebody I can understand and make sure why they thought it was my responsibility. Other than that I'd be pretty pissed off.....
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 26 2010 23:23 GMT
#13
Obviously it's not the customer's responsibility. That's the kind of thing a business should take a loss on.

Report it to BBB.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
September 26 2010 23:32 GMT
#14
Err i don't think i've ever filled my tank and then it kept overflowing without the pump stopping itself
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
September 26 2010 23:59 GMT
#15
It seemed like he was the only employee there so there was nobody else to talk to.
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rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
September 27 2010 00:21 GMT
#16
Happened to me as well, except I was pumping it myself. You expect it to auto stop, until it just suddenly started flowing out. I quickly let go of the pump, so I lost very little gas, but sometimes these systems do fail for some reason...
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SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
September 27 2010 00:25 GMT
#17
Based on the details you provided, it is no doubt the attendant's fault. However, quibbling over a few bucks when he's deficient in English really isn't worth it. You were a bit screwed over, but you did the right thing.

Glad I live in NJ. It is illegal to pump our own gas here
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 27 2010 00:29 GMT
#18
this is why you should never trust anyone to fill up your car. Trying to negotiate with someone who cant speak english is a pain, take the money hit as a lesson to why you watch that shit even if it is a full service
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Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 00:30:08
September 27 2010 00:29 GMT
#19
Go back to the station and talk to the owner. Report it to the BBB.

I wouldn't have paid for that though haha. Not in a million years.
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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
September 27 2010 02:30 GMT
#20
You're very nice to let him off like so.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
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