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Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 01:56:51
June 06 2010 01:54 GMT
#1
This is something I've encountered now today more exclusively lately then ever before, people blaming game balance, sure I have done it to numerous of times, we all have done it probably at different points of time, but this fella made my day complete really

[image loading]

After this we had a long discussion how bad I suck cause he went coloss and zealots, and I rushed mutas while he didn't scout me the whole game except for the first scout. So he had no idea that it was coming.

[url blocked]Replay of that game if anyone wanna see it

Now why do people feel like they understand a game better then everyone else and everything. So when their own shortcomings make them lose, they blame the game ?

[image loading]Prolly how mad he was after our discussion(and yes I watch AVGN:

Dunno really mabey he was just pissed off or sexually frustrated dunno what ,but something must be stuck in his ass.

Speaking of that and this what supposed to be an blog about my journey on the way to the top. As the Beta is ending and so on I have started to get higher in my league and starting to look good !

[image loading]Coming to get you WhiteRa!!!!

Comments on anything is welcomed !


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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 06 2010 01:56 GMT
#2
Haha gotta love when people rage (I do it too sometimes ), good luck with your journey to the top! Time is running out!
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
June 06 2010 01:57 GMT
#3
Haha, we all do rage sometimes But this fella was feeling strongly about his opinion about the game as we discussed it on bnet after the game Thanks a lot ! Will do my best!
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liaf
Profile Joined April 2009
Norway318 Posts
June 06 2010 02:03 GMT
#4
You should have saved the convo you had with him after the game
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Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
June 06 2010 02:06 GMT
#5
Ye, I should have done that really. But closed it and after I closed it I had the idea of writting this in my blog. Shall remember it next time someone rages and chats with me
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Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
June 06 2010 02:07 GMT
#6
Sorry to burst your bubble but that ain't the real WhiteRa
Shew
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
June 06 2010 02:10 GMT
#7
On June 06 2010 11:07 Raydog wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble but that ain't the real WhiteRa


It seems possible, lots of really high level players are stuck in platinum still, for instance I just played Slush twice (and yes it was the real slush).
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Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 02:12:07
June 06 2010 02:11 GMT
#8
On June 06 2010 11:07 Raydog wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble but that ain't the real WhiteRa

really ? Thought it was him since we both play in europe and all : / Met him once before on stepps of war so I thought it was him olol :S ah well
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 06 2010 02:16 GMT
#9
rage!
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Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
June 06 2010 02:46 GMT
#10
You sure its the real White-rA thats pretty poor stats for White-rA in platium division, Ive already seen some people on fake accounts, ie; LzGamer
Can you feel the rush?
Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
June 06 2010 05:41 GMT
#11
On June 06 2010 11:10 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 11:07 Raydog wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble but that ain't the real WhiteRa


It seems possible, lots of really high level players are stuck in platinum still, for instance I just played Slush twice (and yes it was the real slush).


I've looked at the real WhiteRa's profile (has his showmatch games with machine on them), he has no Ladder games at all played. Only Customs.
Shew
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
June 06 2010 05:51 GMT
#12
Identifiers were a pretty good idea, if they were easy for everyone to see. Then newbie schmo#1 and newbie schmo#2 can both have their favourite ID "THEDESTORYOR1136" whilst well known players will have their IDs copied but at least people will know which identifier is really them.
No I'm never serious.
Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
June 06 2010 05:59 GMT
#13
On June 06 2010 14:51 Nytefish wrote:
Identifiers were a pretty good idea, if they were easy for everyone to see. Then newbie schmo#1 and newbie schmo#2 can both have their favourite ID "THEDESTORYOR1136" whilst well known players will have their IDs copied but at least people will know which identifier is really them.


Identifiers will come back. Bnet is currently just like this so it forces people to use the real-id and facebook friend stuff.
Shew
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 06 2010 06:06 GMT
#14
Woah how are people already at 600 points when the game was reset like 2 days ago? That #1 guy is getting basically +20 points per game wtf.
Also what the 127 games played? Lastly Felanis Kilo lol
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
June 06 2010 06:17 GMT
#15
The guy's obviously a noob.


I don't have SC2 on this comp, so can't watch rep, but FYI Zerg has to be really careful expo'ing toward the center on Kulas, because Terran and Protoss both have a multitude of ways to harass that safely from the high ground if Zerg doesn't play it right.

Protoss can
- colossus, or
- stalker/immortal take down the rocks absurdly fast, and can harass with a large army.
- phase prism (not really worth it though IMO compared to the other options.

Terran can
- banshee, or
- marauders destroy the rocks a bit faster, but mostly, just about every terran unit loves to be on top of that cliff. Marine/Marauder, Siege Tanks
- Thorship.

As Zerg, you need to be aware of these possibilities, and either expo somewhere else or break the rocks on your side as soon as you can with spare lings or whatever.


Anyway, people crying imba is really annoying, I agree. And honestly, it's not gonna stop for a LONG time. People generally stfu with their imba complaints about BW, but since SC2 is new, noobs are always gonna say that everything they lose to is imba, and defend their claim by stating that BW took years to balance. You just gotta ignore them.
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
June 06 2010 13:06 GMT
#16
On June 06 2010 15:17 Dromar wrote:
The guy's obviously a noob.


Wtf are you talking about ??
Yes I am
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
June 06 2010 14:10 GMT
#17
On June 06 2010 22:06 Buffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 15:17 Dromar wrote:
The guy's obviously a noob.


Wtf are you talking about ??

hes obviously talking about your opponent.
Cant you figure that much out simply from reading the post? come on.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
June 06 2010 14:41 GMT
#18
On June 06 2010 23:10 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 22:06 Buffy wrote:
On June 06 2010 15:17 Dromar wrote:
The guy's obviously a noob.


Wtf are you talking about ??

hes obviously talking about your opponent.
Cant you figure that much out simply from reading the post? come on.

Ye I can figure out that much, but since he didn't watch the replay and I didn't post screenshots of every game and he is predicting plays and such without knowing what happened more then that I won, I just get confused by that part :S
Yes I am
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
June 06 2010 16:25 GMT
#19
How do you know he didnt watch the replay?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
June 06 2010 16:49 GMT
#20
On June 07 2010 01:25 TheAntZ wrote:
How do you know he didnt watch the replay?

Cause he said "FYI haven watched the replay" just look at his post!
Yes I am
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
June 07 2010 02:53 GMT
#21
On June 06 2010 22:06 Buffy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 15:17 Dromar wrote:
The guy's obviously a noob.


Wtf are you talking about ??



For clarity, when I said, "the guy's obviously a noob," I was indeed referring to your opponent. As I mentioned, I didn't watch the replay, but I gathered from your OP that

After this we had a long discussion how bad I suck cause he went coloss and zealots, and I rushed mutas while he didn't scout me the whole game except for the first scout. So he had no idea that it was coming.


So he barely scouted, had a horrible army composition as a result, and blames balance rather than his own mistakes. This is a very common reaction of bad players, which is what I was talking about toward the end of my previous post, and what I based by "noob" judgment on.

Admittedly, good players also may blame balance at times (Idra, Artosis, etc.) but at least they scout.

The whole "Zerg expos on Kulas" was an aside. See, even though I didn't watch the replay, I gathered from the screenshot that a Zerg player (you) expo'ed toward the center on Kulas Ravine. The comments weren't geared toward this game specifically, but just general advice.

Hopefully this clears things up.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 04:56:12
June 07 2010 04:55 GMT
#22
I had a guy(Z) immediately cry imba on my "bullshit terran turtling" after I walled in my expo on Lost Temple. After arguing with me a bit that there was no possible way to break my defenses, he quit.

There was much lulz to be had that night.
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