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How I Beat a B-

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ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 11:43:19
June 03 2010 11:38 GMT
#1
Well, there I was on iCCup, minding my own business, when I think to myself: Why not ladder? It's a beautiful day, and I have nothing else to do.

So off I go, to the charted waters of 'join game'. I see a game by the name of something along the lines of "D HBR 1v1". I joined, and I see the name "star.eveday". I think nothing of it, and continue to pick my race. I go Z, he goes T. ZvT is definately, without a doubt, my worst MU.

So the game starts. I get my usual 9 drones, then spawning pool. Ah, the good old 9pool. Always helpful. Anyhow, my first 6 lings arrive at his base and see... a command center? My goodness! I proceed to kill the scv and move into his main. I see an unfinished supply depot and gleefully attack it with my force of eight to ten zerglings.

Needless to say, I take the game with ease. All I can say is BO win!

Replay: http://www.iccup.com/replays/175218.html

Edit: Not quite a serious blog, mostly just for a laugh or two.

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LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
June 03 2010 11:46 GMT
#2
Hahahaha Fluff <3

D > B- easy!
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SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
June 03 2010 11:50 GMT
#3
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X
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Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
June 03 2010 11:56 GMT
#4
On June 03 2010 20:50 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X


After the Flash vs Jaedong game I played four Ts in a row who 14ccd. Needless to say I won every one of them because I always 9 pool. So he was probably just trying to copy flash.
I'm a Crab made of men.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
June 03 2010 11:56 GMT
#5
On June 03 2010 20:50 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X

He watched Flash doing it
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WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
June 03 2010 12:07 GMT
#6
On June 03 2010 20:50 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X


I really don't understand why would a B- terran not go 8-9 scout to block nat with ebay or something (2 player map) and eventualy scout the 9 pool.
zvz is imba
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 12:20:42
June 03 2010 12:19 GMT
#7
b- is still kinda shit At least I think I am.
edit: no I'm not the one in this rep xD
ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
June 03 2010 12:20 GMT
#8
Hey! Dont say that! It's still an amazing achievement for me! :3
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
June 03 2010 12:28 GMT
#9
At least Flash does it safe, with scouting.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 12:36:15
June 03 2010 12:33 GMT
#10
yeaa good old BO win, this is similar to how I beat nazgul once, lulz

On June 03 2010 21:28 Navane wrote:
At least Flash does it safe, with scouting.


He certainly doesnt always scout
(he did twice in the msl finals though)

Seems stupid to me to do that in ladder though, esp. against a much lower skilled player.
beep boop
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 12:35:31
June 03 2010 12:35 GMT
#11
double post T_T
beep boop
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
June 03 2010 12:37 GMT
#12
On June 03 2010 21:19 Piste wrote:
b- is still kinda shit At least I think I am.
edit: no I'm not the one in this rep xD

Agreed, i remember being D+ and playing b- and thinking "shit no wonder i lost!", once u get to B- you realize you still have a LONG way to go before being remotely good
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 03 2010 12:39 GMT
#13
T's 14cc all the time on HBR, but I don't understand why, i thought Z is supposed to go pool first on maps where their choke can get blocked for an easier bunker rush?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
June 03 2010 12:47 GMT
#14
Choke can't be completely blocked and 9 pools can be stopped with proper placement of the wall on the nat. I didn't watch the rep but I'm guessing that the guy lost because he was silly and didn't think he would be facing a 9 pool.
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TTSA_SBR
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia64 Posts
June 03 2010 13:04 GMT
#15
i fucking hate 9 pools, havent faced a zerg online that didnt open speedlings
rape me once, shame on you... rape me twice and ill poo on your dick.
chogoling
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia173 Posts
June 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#16
Everyone who is saying B- is shit, fluffy plays in korean time zone.

NICE JOB MATE
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FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
June 03 2010 13:26 GMT
#17
Good job Although it wasnt a straight up win. I mean I could probably beat a progamer once in a while with a 4 pool.
yummy tomatoes
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 03 2010 13:34 GMT
#18
Yeah, once you get B- you'll realize you're still scared of losing bullshit games to low level players.

It never changes.
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Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
June 03 2010 13:38 GMT
#19
Fuck yea dude! D reprizent up in this bitch! :D
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
June 03 2010 13:48 GMT
#20
What I didn't get is why a B- named his game as "D HBR" ? And why the OP didn't notice or react to the stats that automatically get displayed on joining the lobby? And if he didn't notice it as the game starts, then how did he notice it later on? And also, Quantim Mechanics as a whole.
mieda
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States85 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 14:04:15
June 03 2010 13:58 GMT
#21
On June 03 2010 20:50 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X


It's beginning season, I've already met plenty (if not all) past at least B- players at D. I usually have no idea how good the player is until I play them (or look them up on iccup.com page after the game), and generally I assume he's at least as good as me when I ladder. I'm B+/A- Terran btw. I'm also assuming that this game was played in beginning season.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 03 2010 13:59 GMT
#22
thats bad ass man.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
June 03 2010 14:02 GMT
#23
On June 03 2010 22:48 georgir wrote:
What I didn't get is why a B- named his game as "D HBR" ? And why the OP didn't notice or react to the stats that automatically get displayed on joining the lobby? And if he didn't notice it as the game starts, then how did he notice it later on? And also, Quantim Mechanics as a whole.


He wanted to try out 14cc on a noob so he could test the viability of 14cc? OP might have been doing something else and might not be looking at the screen where the stats show, assuming that its definetely a D game. Err maybe he checked the stats of that guy? i dunno lols
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 14:04:33
June 03 2010 14:04 GMT
#24
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
mieda
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States85 Posts
June 03 2010 14:06 GMT
#25
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Agreed. However, TheAntZ you should just realize that most of these people who say crap like that usually just want attention ^^.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
June 03 2010 14:08 GMT
#26
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
June 03 2010 14:22 GMT
#27
On June 03 2010 22:48 georgir wrote:
What I didn't get is why a B- named his game as "D HBR" ? And why the OP didn't notice or react to the stats that automatically get displayed on joining the lobby? And if he didn't notice it as the game starts, then how did he notice it later on? And also, Quantim Mechanics as a whole.

i'm pretty sure he just means the account was B- in previous seasons. remember its still early in the season, so no one's back at their true rankings yet. i swear i will be before beta 2nd phase though >=[
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Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
June 03 2010 14:47 GMT
#28
On June 03 2010 20:56 Tuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 20:50 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
I really don't understand why he felt the need to 14cc against someone 5 ranks lower than him X_X

He watched Flash doing it

lol
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
June 03 2010 16:36 GMT
#29
A C+ failed a 5 pool on me so i just got wraiths and won lol :D.

Congrats on your win haha . all my random "opponent was obviously a million times better than me" wins come in tvz, never in tvp lol. I only bbsed a C korean and won haha
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
June 03 2010 16:41 GMT
#30
On June 03 2010 23:08 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.


rofl what the fuck. Do you play starcraft 10 hours in a row every day of the week? B- is a ridiculous amount of skill especially for those of us who don't have time to memorize builds up to like 60 food and play for hours upon hours a day.

Hey, you know who's really really buff? Ronnie coleman. That means all amateur bodybuilders are weak as shit right? I'm obviously stronger
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
June 03 2010 17:19 GMT
#31
On June 03 2010 23:02 streamofhonour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 22:48 georgir wrote:
What I didn't get is why a B- named his game as "D HBR" ? And why the OP didn't notice or react to the stats that automatically get displayed on joining the lobby? And if he didn't notice it as the game starts, then how did he notice it later on? And also, Quantim Mechanics as a whole.


He wanted to try out 14cc on a noob so he could test the viability of 14cc? OP might have been doing something else and might not be looking at the screen where the stats show, assuming that its definetely a D game. Err maybe he checked the stats of that guy? i dunno lols


Or maybe because the ladder reset two days ago...
mG.SpriteLove
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
June 03 2010 17:22 GMT
#32
On June 03 2010 22:34 Pokebunny wrote:
Yeah, once you get B- you'll realize you're still scared of losing bullshit games to low level players.

It never changes.

Listen to poke. He speaks from minutes and minutes of experience at B-.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 03 2010 17:24 GMT
#33
jeez, calm down everyone, everything's relative
there's still hundreds of mistakes that B- players do, us D+/C- players do a few hundred more

even flash says he's still lacking skills
Getting to D+ or C- for the first time is still a nice accomplishment despite of that.
beep boop
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
June 03 2010 17:30 GMT
#34
On June 04 2010 02:22 sixghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 22:34 Pokebunny wrote:
Yeah, once you get B- you'll realize you're still scared of losing bullshit games to low level players.

It never changes.

Listen to poke. He speaks from minutes and minutes of experience at B-.
LOL

B- is better than average but still gets rolled by gosus. Honestly it sucks because I spend so much time practicing and feel nowhere near the top.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
June 03 2010 17:41 GMT
#35
Can't you make a ling thight wall at the nat on HBR?
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 03 2010 17:43 GMT
#36
I beat a b- in a zvz and I'm c- ..felt good man :D
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 03 2010 20:09 GMT
#37
On June 04 2010 02:43 Megalisk wrote:
I beat a b- in a zvz and I'm c- ..felt good man :D

When I beat Tetra in ZvZ last time, he said he wanted to quit life.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 03 2010 20:13 GMT
#38
On June 04 2010 05:09 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 02:43 Megalisk wrote:
I beat a b- in a zvz and I'm c- ..felt good man :D

When I beat Tetra in ZvZ last time, he said he wanted to quit life.


Tetra as in saracen?

I could never beat him. I beat his PvZ when I was a low D level player, but he had just started playing PvZ..so it wasn't a big deal . Although ZvZ is probably the matchup in which it is easiest to beat someone of higher rank.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 03 2010 21:26 GMT
#39
haha, build order win indeed.
My highest win was against a C, hopefully ill beat a B- sometime lol
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 03 2010 21:33 GMT
#40
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 03 2010 22:18 GMT
#41
On June 04 2010 05:09 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 02:43 Megalisk wrote:
I beat a b- in a zvz and I'm c- ..felt good man :D

When I beat Tetra in ZvZ last time, he said he wanted to quit life.

Hahahaha
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#42
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me


I'm just gonna go ahead and doubt these reports
beep boop
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
June 04 2010 04:31 GMT
#43
fuck

iccup is so hard right now T_T damn koreans T_T i went 1-6 today faaaaaaack

played a A though so it's all good! ^^
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
June 04 2010 08:21 GMT
#44
Wow. I didnt expect this to get so much traffic. Thanks everybody for giving me a laugh!
lansichai
Profile Joined May 2010
11 Posts
June 04 2010 10:20 GMT
#45
stupid ... lings are so easy micro at beginning of game..... u noe u need drage 4-5 scv +marine to kill 6-8 lings? =.= .....and its so hard micro with marine+scv compare ling just 1A on marine so easy!
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
June 04 2010 10:38 GMT
#46
Your greedy 1 rax expo relies on good scv/marine micro so either play a safer build or get better at micro.
No I'm never serious.
ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
June 04 2010 11:11 GMT
#47
Wut? I'm the Z.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 14:43:39
June 04 2010 14:43 GMT
#48
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me

I'd suggest maybe it was Bisu[Shield] but I doubt he'd make A- on current form...
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 04 2010 15:33 GMT
#49
On June 03 2010 23:08 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.


Where are you pulling your facts from? Reaching a certain rank is a variable factor that is different for everyone, but most people would find it very difficult to reach the B- skill level from D+ in just a few months on their own. Simply "if you play a lot" isn't going to cut it.

Also, the difference between D+ and B-, and "competitive foreigners" isn't 10x different; it's an undeterminable factor that isn't as overestimated as you may think.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 21 2010 17:42 GMT
#50
On June 05 2010 00:33 ilovezil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 23:08 PJA wrote:
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.


Where are you pulling your facts from? Reaching a certain rank is a variable factor that is different for everyone, but most people would find it very difficult to reach the B- skill level from D+ in just a few months on their own. Simply "if you play a lot" isn't going to cut it.

Also, the difference between D+ and B-, and "competitive foreigners" isn't 10x different; it's an undeterminable factor that isn't as overestimated as you may think.

I agree with this, D+ reaching B- is hard, no doubt you'll have to be dedicated and practice a lot with watching replays of your failures. B- to A+ also will take longer, but for some individuals will be really easy. Some people are just better at mechanics than others, and need less practice which would fit the term "talented' and i've known guys that jumped from B- to A- in very short times
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
June 21 2010 18:54 GMT
#51
On June 04 2010 23:43 deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me

I'd suggest maybe it was Bisu[Shield] but I doubt he'd make A- on current form...

Even while slumping progamers would ezrape their way through A
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