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TvP Probe Rush Counter?

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EniraM(CA)
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada160 Posts
January 25 2010 07:42 GMT
#1
So, after seeing the probe rush video from that hilarious korean guy, I decided to try it on ICCUP.

BTW im a Terran user, and after trying this.... I have no idea how T could beat this. Probes are so strong early.

Anyway heres the replay if anyone wants to check it out:
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29689

So how the fuck do you beat this?

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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
January 25 2010 07:48 GMT
#2
"Probes are so strong early"???

Umm, SCVs have 60 hp > 40hp last time I checked.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 25 2010 07:52 GMT
#3
I better double check, brb.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
January 25 2010 08:00 GMT
#4
On January 25 2010 16:48 ForTheSwarm wrote:
"Probes are so strong early"???

Umm, SCVs have 60 hp > 40hp last time I checked.



But probes have range, so scv get free hits from them. And shield, so 20 of those 40 regenerates pretty fast. Probes are stronger than scv in good hands.
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
January 25 2010 08:04 GMT
#5
Oh man probe rush? Seriously?
Its too bad I'm going to bed, I'll have to watch this rep tomorrow.
Have you tried killing the probes with scvs, btw?
exeprime
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom643 Posts
January 25 2010 08:16 GMT
#6
That right there looks like some sweet cheese!

The only thing i can think of is the terran should've pulled most SCVs and actually fight the probes, I guess? Sure probes have better acceleration and shield, but while you can take advantage of that in 1v1 worker combat, good luck microing all of them. And you're not exactly in the position to run them around for shields to recharge.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 25 2010 08:22 GMT
#7
No worker is better than the other, you just got outmicroed and didn't take advantage of SCV's higher HP and lower cooldown of attack.

In other words - probe rush counter = micro
caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
January 25 2010 08:31 GMT
#8
well first of all if the Terran built his depot at 9 supply and built his rax before gas it would have turned out differently. Also Terran could have still walled off despite your pylon if the rax was moved 1 space to the right, which would have prevented all the probes in the first place.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
January 25 2010 08:32 GMT
#9
l o l
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ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
January 25 2010 09:02 GMT
#10
probe timing attack is best
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Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
January 25 2010 09:08 GMT
#11
Build a bunker hide scvs in it and lift off. You won't win but it would be funny i guess.
meow
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 25 2010 09:29 GMT
#12
seriously, you will have like 6 SCVs when he arrives, send one scv for each probe, and have the rest mining. I dont think he will be able to micro that.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
January 25 2010 10:24 GMT
#13
ALT+Q+Q, play next game. Congratulations, you countered it.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
EniraM(CA)
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada160 Posts
January 25 2010 10:31 GMT
#14
On January 25 2010 17:22 Kaniol wrote:
No worker is better than the other, you just got outmicroed and didn't take advantage of SCV's higher HP and lower cooldown of attack.

In other words - probe rush counter = micro



Clearly you didn't read the OP. Im the toss in this replay, but im a terran user. And after seeing this strat I had to try it out. And tbh im scared shitless of it.
Probes have range.... and betetr acceleration witch is so key in worker vs worker battles.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 10:35:13
January 25 2010 10:34 GMT
#15
On January 25 2010 18:29 freelander wrote:
seriously, you will have like 6 SCVs when he arrives, send one scv for each probe, and have the rest mining. I dont think he will be able to micro that.


Watch the replay: it was a 12 probe rush with an inbase proxy, not the 4 probe one.

The counter is micro and a faster rax. The rax was terribly slow - he was afraid of a gas steal so he took it early, but a rax on 13 is still waaaay to late - and that cost him.

T could've just walled - your pylon doesn't block any sort of wall-in from what I see.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
EniraM(CA)
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada160 Posts
January 25 2010 10:43 GMT
#16
On January 25 2010 19:34 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 18:29 freelander wrote:
seriously, you will have like 6 SCVs when he arrives, send one scv for each probe, and have the rest mining. I dont think he will be able to micro that.


Watch the replay: it was a 12 probe rush with an inbase proxy, not the 4 probe one.

The counter is micro and a faster rax. The rax was terribly slow - he was afraid of a gas steal so he took it early, but a rax on 13 is still waaaay to late - and that cost him.

T could've just walled - your pylon doesn't block any sort of wall-in from what I see.


yeah, but I think most T's put a refinery up before rax when they see probe enter their base at that timing. i know i sure do, that's why the rush is so powerful. And you can delay rax with good probe micro. And yeah he may have been able to wall in, this was the first time I tried it.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4199 Posts
January 25 2010 15:46 GMT
#17
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
January 25 2010 16:20 GMT
#18
ROFL
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 25 2010 17:10 GMT
#19
hahahaha
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 25 2010 22:29 GMT
#20
i LOLed as soon as i read the title

but honestly. 5+6 probes off the supply line with a proxy 2 gate could be devastating
cw)minsean(ru
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
January 26 2010 00:01 GMT
#21
this used to be my standard
the REAL ReSpOnSe
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 26 2010 00:24 GMT
#22
You had 2x his APM so you out-microed him badly. Had a 100 APM protoss tried this vs. a 200 APM terran the result would have been quite different.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 26 2010 22:28 GMT
#23
back.

yep, SCVs most definitely have 60HP
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