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Over confidence in low self confident people

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Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 24 2010 05:51 GMT
#1
From my last blog, you can pretty figure out that I have very low self confidence (but I have read Travis' post). But I have been thinking that I have some over confidence in me. An analogy is when people say "ack bad macro" when they lose countless games, rage and never get past D+ or something. They overconfident in the fact that they can macro, but they never improve.

But I am confused: how can you be over confident AND have low self confidence at the same time? If it is then I believe im a classic example.

*
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 24 2010 05:57 GMT
#2
sorry, im too stupid understand what u're saying. but i believe if i try really hard i will understand in 5 seconds.
lylejensen
Profile Joined November 2009
United States19 Posts
January 24 2010 06:02 GMT
#3
You mean arrogance?
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
January 24 2010 06:04 GMT
#4
Basically he's saying when you play SC and aren't up to par on something (i.e. macro, rine splitting, reaver micro, whatever), but you think you're just fine at it, then you won't improve.

I do this a lot, like I think my macro is just fine, but it could definitely use some refinement. I need to work on a lot of little things that I don't think matter all that much when in fact that's how you get better.
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 24 2010 06:05 GMT
#5
its not just sc. I just used that to help make my post more sense. its more ofa life question
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
January 24 2010 06:08 GMT
#6
On January 24 2010 14:51 Sharp-eYe wrote:
how can you be over confident AND have low self confidence at the same time? If it is then I believe im a classic example.


Dude, people do it all the time = get drunk.
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
January 24 2010 06:27 GMT
#7
That's not overconfidence, that's being dumb.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
jcu
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada93 Posts
January 24 2010 06:35 GMT
#8
Its like having an inferiority complex but it manifests itself as a superiority complex perhaps? Like when someone feels out of control so they overcompensate by being really controlling.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7216 Posts
January 24 2010 06:47 GMT
#9
you try to compensate for your own insecurities by acting superficially arrogant (???)
Entusman #12
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 24 2010 06:52 GMT
#10
I'd work on building your confidence. Just do small things that make you proud or happy or accomplished. Try to get more friends. Be around people that you can be "yourself" with. Worked pretty well for me.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 24 2010 06:54 GMT
#11
On January 24 2010 15:52 Whiplash wrote:
I'd work on building your confidence. Just do small things that make you proud or happy or accomplished. Try to get more friends. Be around people that you can be "yourself" with. Worked pretty well for me.

yeah im finding that to be true. and being more open about things. just like Travis said :D
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
January 24 2010 06:59 GMT
#12
On January 24 2010 15:02 lylejensen wrote:
You mean arrogance?


yea arrogance is more of the term than 'over-confidence' lol
Treatin' fools since '87
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
January 24 2010 07:15 GMT
#13
Go to a rave... XD
you seem like you're all WOUND UP in your little world xP
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 07:18 GMT
#14
Well... imo they're both just a kind of low self confidence. When you say you're overconfident when you don't improve, perhaps you're just not confident enough with yourself to admit when you're doing something wrong. Take Day[9]'s casts about himself... he loves to point out his errors in them, but he's a very confident guy. He's comfortable enough to know and admit his mistakes and change them. Perhaps you aren't?
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 24 2010 07:27 GMT
#15
I'm not sure if it's overconfidence in this context, maybe just being lazy?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 07:54:36
January 24 2010 07:54 GMT
#16
Get a Thesaurus
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
January 24 2010 08:04 GMT
#17
You think youre pretty bad but actually youre even worse? That's what you're after?
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 24 2010 08:07 GMT
#18
On January 24 2010 14:57 nttea wrote:
sorry, im too stupid understand what u're saying. but i believe if i try really hard i will understand in 5 seconds.

this is a big part of the answer too. and arrogance.
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
January 24 2010 08:12 GMT
#19
On January 24 2010 14:57 nttea wrote:
sorry, im too stupid understand what u're saying. but i believe if i try really hard i will understand in 5 seconds.


Don't feel bad (assuming English isn't your 1st language) because he didn't say it very clearly at all...

OP: I know what you're talking about I think. Even if overall you lack self-confidence you can still be overly confident in certain areas and in certain situations.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
January 24 2010 08:24 GMT
#20
Interesting thread.

After thinking about it, I believe it revolves around confidence, knowledge and the balance between those two things.

1°) While one doesn't know shit, he still can be very confident. It's easier to make a choice, less options to chose from, or he can just act. That "fake" or "naive" confidence makes him very annoying for the wise.

He can also be more shy, less confident. He doesn't know shit, after all. This humility is easier to accept.

2°) On the other hand, if one does know his shit, you expect him to be confident about it. He's the man, after all. So his display of confidence, supported by his knowledge, is accepted.

But when said person appears not confident, it's also annoying for everyone (him included) because his behavior weakens his words/actions.


Hope it, somehow, makes sense.
Resistance ain't futile
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