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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
January 13 2010 00:31 GMT
#1
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Stopped to read teamliquid for a while (shame on me) for liquidpoker but wanted to share it with you ~

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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17009 Posts
January 13 2010 00:50 GMT
#2
Gambling is one of the stupidest things people can do :/

...unless you just accept it as paying for the experience.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5516 Posts
January 13 2010 00:52 GMT
#3
was that your 7000th post?
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
January 13 2010 00:58 GMT
#4
On January 13 2010 09:52 jimminy_kriket wrote:
was that your 7000th post?


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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 13 2010 00:58 GMT
#5
At least it wasn't his 10000th
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
January 13 2010 01:04 GMT
#6
On January 13 2010 09:50 Empyrean wrote:
Gambling is one of the stupidest things people can do :/

...unless you just accept it as paying for the experience.


Are you including poker in the category of gambling?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17009 Posts
January 13 2010 01:14 GMT
#7
No, I actually don't consider poker gambling since you're playing against other players instead of the house. Video poker on the other hand....

And yeah, just realized I used my 7000th post. Sigh.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 13 2010 01:22 GMT
#8
Not considering poker gambling is a pretty good sign you don't know what gambling is!
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
January 13 2010 01:24 GMT
#9
Poker is different. Not knowing much about the game, I still think its fair to say poker is 50% skill, 50% luck, wheres most other forms of gambling are 100% luck.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8554 Posts
January 13 2010 01:24 GMT
#10
On January 13 2010 10:14 Empyrean wrote:
No, I actually don't consider poker gambling since you're playing against other players instead of the house. Video poker on the other hand....

And yeah, just realized I used my 7000th post. Sigh.

Yay, there's someone else that used his 7000th post for something insignificant.
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Carthac
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States393 Posts
January 13 2010 01:25 GMT
#11
On January 13 2010 10:22 heyoka wrote:
Not considering poker gambling is a pretty good sign you don't know what gambling is!


Did you misspeak or are you trying to say poker is gambling? If you are, you are completely mistaken sir
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
January 13 2010 01:28 GMT
#12
On January 13 2010 09:50 Empyrean wrote:
Gambling is one of the stupidest things people can do :/

...unless you just accept it as paying for the experience.


Getting drunk isn't an intelligent thing to do either. People do things to have fun and enjoy themselves! Gambling isn't so bad as long as it's done within a person's budget.
Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
January 13 2010 01:30 GMT
#13
Id be lying if I said I wasn't digging that shark rofl.
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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
January 13 2010 01:49 GMT
#14
wtf of course poker is gambling, it's just not rigged against you. That doesn't make it not gambling though
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 13 2010 02:18 GMT
#15
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 13 2010 02:28 GMT
#16
On January 13 2010 10:25 Carthac wrote:
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On January 13 2010 10:22 heyoka wrote:
Not considering poker gambling is a pretty good sign you don't know what gambling is!


Did you misspeak or are you trying to say poker is gambling? If you are, you are completely mistaken sir


By very definition of the world gamble it certainly is. But I suppose you could call it intelligent gambling, if that's not oxymoronic.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 13 2010 03:15 GMT
#17
On January 13 2010 11:28 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 10:25 Carthac wrote:
On January 13 2010 10:22 heyoka wrote:
Not considering poker gambling is a pretty good sign you don't know what gambling is!


Did you misspeak or are you trying to say poker is gambling? If you are, you are completely mistaken sir


By very definition of the world gamble it certainly is. But I suppose you could call it intelligent gambling, if that's not oxymoronic.

Gambling specifically means betting money on games of chance. "Games of chance" is taken to mean games where the player does not effect the outcome of the game. Otherwise you could call basically anything that includes money gambling because there is always an element of risk in life.

In poker people can and do consistently win to the point they can even live off of the game. That is not gambling by the definition I've presented, which I think most people agree with.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28701 Posts
January 13 2010 03:20 GMT
#18
of course poker is gambling
it's also a game of skill.. but the fact that you have to play 50000+ hands to get any real indication of skill level should make it pretty fucking obvious that luck plays a huge factor and that it is gambling. it's just "not" gambling when you practice super strong bankroll management and play millions of hands..
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
January 13 2010 03:22 GMT
#19
On January 13 2010 12:15 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 11:28 Divinek wrote:
On January 13 2010 10:25 Carthac wrote:
On January 13 2010 10:22 heyoka wrote:
Not considering poker gambling is a pretty good sign you don't know what gambling is!


Did you misspeak or are you trying to say poker is gambling? If you are, you are completely mistaken sir


By very definition of the world gamble it certainly is. But I suppose you could call it intelligent gambling, if that's not oxymoronic.

Gambling specifically means betting money on games of chance. "Games of chance" is taken to mean games where the player does not effect the outcome of the game. Otherwise you could call basically anything that includes money gambling because there is always an element of risk in life.

In poker people can and do consistently win to the point they can even live off of the game. That is not gambling by the definition I've presented, which I think most people agree with.

Gambling: to stake or risk money, or anything of value, on the outcome of something involving chance.

Poker be gambling son.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 13 2010 03:50 GMT
#20
Not "involving chance" a game OF CHANCE.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gamble

That'd be like calling Pawn Shop owners gamblers because they can't be sure they will get a return on their money. It's up to their skill to know what kind of return they should expect overall, whether some returns are bad or not.

Everything involves luck. The only reason something can be considered gambling is if it is ALL luck (ie odds are never in your favour).

Maybe it's just semantics, but I think it's pretty stupid to consider any game involving chance and betting to be luck. Might as well call betting in StarCraft gambling.
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