EPTSome of your words were inspiring to me but I don't want to point any post out lest I exclude the others.
I'm just glad my family and I can still find moments of joy and we will have eachother during this tough time.
Thank you again guys.
Life is Hard; I am lost and need a stable job.
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stack
Canada348 Posts
Some of your words were inspiring to me but I don't want to point any post out lest I exclude the others. I'm just glad my family and I can still find moments of joy and we will have eachother during this tough time. Thank you again guys. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On January 03 2010 17:13 stack wrote: What I need from you knowledgeable fellas is suggestions for a realistic career I can strive for and be good at that will be financially comfortable. Not really advice, but I suppose words of encouragement... a "you're not in it alone" if you will. I think this one statement sums up what a majority of Team Liquidians are concerned about right now.  | ||
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
I think your best bet is working at some sort of retail store and being a cashier/customer service/etc. | ||
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Guilty
Canada812 Posts
ted talks have me inspired at the moment... | ||
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El Resplandor
United States187 Posts
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
I think you need to force yourself to solve those issues first, and then try to figure out the best path to go towards. I know you're faced with tough issues at home now, but solving these problems will also help you down your life. | ||
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hymn
Bulgaria832 Posts
but here are my ideas: 1 - websites. I see you are spending a lot of time at home so you can learn to make websites. It's really not that hard to make basic HTML sites. 2 - the police force is a very viable option. I don't know your physical trauma though. 3 - when I was in the US I met a guy who worked at a hardware store. I think it was Home Depot. He had a decent life and he said he has only high school. 4 - you can see what it takes to be a teacher in some school. Shouldn't be too hard. I am guessing at most 2 semesters training. 5 - maybe work at some store like Best buy or Staples. That seems doable too and doesn't require a lot of education. | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
On January 03 2010 17:31 El Resplandor wrote: sc progaming is the way to go Why the fuck would you make such a stupid comment to someone who's obviously going through a rough time. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On January 03 2010 17:51 sleeepy wrote: Why the fuck would you make such a stupid comment to someone who's obviously going through a rough time. maybe because he's in a horribly serious financial struggle but still finds the time to post about it on a starcraft progaming message board? | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
It is sort of depressing to lower your standards (I assume you were aiming for a bachelors or higher), but don't forget that you can always take classes on the side. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
with financial matters, you gotta just talk to a recruiter and find out where you stand with a partially finished degree. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5509 Posts
Go down to a recruiter like jjun said and check it out and grab some pamphlets, look into the reserves at first if you arent sure. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On January 03 2010 17:48 hymn wrote: Sorry for your situation. but here are my ideas: 1 - websites. I see you are spending a lot of time at home so you can learn to make websites. It's really not that hard to make basic HTML sites. 2 - the police force is a very viable option. I don't know your physical trauma though. 3 - when I was in the US I met a guy who worked at a hardware store. I think it was Home Depot. He had a decent life and he said he has only high school. 4 - you can see what it takes to be a teacher in some school. Shouldn't be too hard. I am guessing at most 2 semesters training. 5 - maybe work at some store like Best buy or Staples. That seems doable too and doesn't require a lot of education. I don't think you have a good grasp of what the job market is like/requirements are like in the US right now. None of your suggestions are easily obtainable as you say, or if they are, will not make the kind of money that you seem to think they will. | ||
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
On January 03 2010 18:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I don't think you have a good grasp of what the job market is like/requirements are like in the US right now. None of your suggestions are easily obtainable as you say, or if they are, will not make the kind of money that you seem to think they will. True, but he's Canadian. Is the market any better over there or no? | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
But one thing I think you have to have in mind is : Dont ever lose your faith, dont just stay in one place and think '' Can I do this, Can I do that''. You should overcome your failure/incident that impact your life in the past and TRY. Dont expect to find the exact ideal job first time around, maybe if you try hard enough things will start to change, and you will not even need us to point you where to go  Best of luck | ||
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
(we had money, we just spent it all on college and church missions and bills and such and saved the rest). Go back to college. Pick something and stick with it. Computer Science is always in high demand. Give that a whirl. + Show Spoiler + But before you dismiss my suggestion as "Gee, thanks...", maybe you should read this: + Show Spoiler + I don't know the first thing about you. All I have to work on is your post. But a lot of things I'm reading sounded all too familiar to me. So here's my take on you. + Show Spoiler + On January 03 2010 17:13 stack wrote: Plus college is alot of networking and socializing which I dont think the new me can do anymore. Listen, bro. It's clear you're lacking any self confidence and direction. That's fine, it happens to us all. Don't hide behind bullshit statements like this. I've been going to college full-time for 4 years, and there is no one alive more anti-social than me. I've done great without "networking and socialization." You don't need to go to parties or drink starbucks with a bunch of punks to succeed academically. It sounds like you're always depressed when you try anything, because you seem to already have convinced yourself you will fail, since you've already quit everything you've tried thus far. I understand a lot of this. I really do. And what I'm about to say won't sound like great advice. But it's the truth. You're going to have to just completely "buckle down" and suck it up and finish this time. You can be miserable doing it. Fine. But part of life is tolerating what you can't stand. In this case, the way you're talking, is that you can't seem to stand your life, or yourself. I don't know all of these details, but the why is irrelevant. Since you've assigned yourself all of these burdens that your family is going through, along with your own burdens, you can't afford to wax and wane like this. I really, really, really don't like college. Hate is close to what I feel. For many reasons. At the end of every quarter I think about dropping out. But I never did. I know finding a job after college will be hell, but I'm not going to walk out in the world and say, "Hey! I got a high school diploma! Anybody hiring?" I'm doing this all for my future, bleak or not. Everyone has to put up with serious shit sometime in their lives. Life sucks. It really does. If you can't seem to love yourself or your life, you still have to just grind your teeth and walk through a field of shit. Your sister's going into debt in exchange for a better career. I'm putting all my eggs in the basket that is my degree. Every pursuit has a risk and a price. Instead of looking at why this won't work, what's wrong with this, etc. you just need to fucking do something. "He's just being smart about it" No, you're so preoccupied with a fear of failure, you might even be sabotaging yourself in any pursuit subconsciously. Because once your lay around depressed about everything, it's nigh impossible to shake yourself out of that. You've got to fucking do something. You ask at the end of your post for helpful career suggestions and options, but everything you wrote before that indicates that you have no faith in yourself. I don't know the effects of therapy, but I can at least guess that it won't help with jack shit if you aren't willing to do something for yourself. So you have to pick something and just fucking do it. You won't find "happiness" or easy solutions for whatever is up with you on the way, but you'll be pursuing a goal, you'll be on a path, instead of meandering. That's my tough love. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On January 03 2010 19:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote: My dad is a industrial designer, and he and about 12 other designers got layed off last year. For the first time 35 years(!!!), he is unemployed. He's applied to every job everywhere, in state, out of state, and nothing. He's 60 years old, and there's not enough to retire on, so he's really in it. None of the other designers have found jobs since, either. They've always been great with their money, we grew up as a real bare-essentials kind of family+ Show Spoiler + (we had money, we just spent it all on college and church missions and bills and such and saved the rest). Go back to college. Pick something and stick with it. Computer Science is always in high demand. Give that a whirl. + Show Spoiler + But before you dismiss my suggestion as "Gee, thanks...", maybe you should read this: + Show Spoiler + I don't know the first thing about you. All I have to work on is your post. But a lot of things I'm reading sounded all too familiar to me. So here's my take on you. On January 03 2010 17:13 stack wrote: Plus college is alot of networking and socializing which I dont think the new me can do anymore. Listen, bro. It's clear you're lacking any self confidence and direction. That's fine, it happens to us all. Don't hide behind bullshit statements like this. I've been going to college full-time for 4 years, and there is no one alive more anti-social than me. I've done great without "networking and socialization." You don't need to go to parties or drink starbucks with a bunch of punks to succeed academically. It sounds like you're always depressed when you try anything, because you seem to already have convinced yourself you will fail, since you've already quit everything you've tried thus far. I understand a lot of this. I really do. And what I'm about to say won't sound like great advice. But it's the truth. You're going to have to just completely "buckle down" and suck it up and finish this time. You can be miserable doing it. Fine. But part of life is tolerating what you can't stand. In this case, the way you're talking, is that you can't seem to stand your life, or yourself. I don't know all of these details, but the why is irrelevant. Since you've assigned yourself all of these burdens that your family is going through, along with your own burdens, you can't afford to wax and wane like this. I really, really, really don't like college. Hate is close to what I feel. For many reasons. At the end of every quarter I think about dropping out. But I never did. I know finding a job after college will be hell, but I'm not going to walk out in the world and say, "Hey! I got a high school diploma! Anybody hiring?" I'm doing this all for my future, bleak or not. Everyone has to put up with serious shit sometime in their lives. Life sucks. It really does. If you can't seem to love yourself or your life, you still have to just grind your teeth and walk through a field of shit. Your sister's going into debt in exchange for a better career. I'm putting all my eggs in the basket that is my degree. Every pursuit has a risk and a price. Instead of looking at why this won't work, what's wrong with this, etc. you just need to fucking do something. "He's just being smart about it" No, you're so preoccupied with a fear of failure, you might even be sabotaging yourself in any pursuit subconsciously. Because once your lay around depressed about everything, it's nigh impossible to shake yourself out of that. You've got to fucking do something. You ask at the end of your post for helpful career suggestions and options, but everything you wrote before that indicates that you have no faith in yourself. I don't know the effects of therapy, but I can at least guess that it won't help with jack shit if you aren't willing to do something for yourself. So you have to pick something and just fucking do it. You won't find "happiness" or easy solutions for whatever is up with you on the way, but you'll be pursuing a goal, you'll be on a path, instead of meandering. That's my tough love. Uni Physics is rape Even with a good professor its hard to memorize and comprehend everything, maybe the only course that seems to be keeping me from not changing my major to CNT or something else. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
On January 03 2010 19:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote: They've always been great with their money, we grew up as a real bare-essentials kind of family+ Show Spoiler + (we had money, we just spent it all on college and church missions and bills and such and saved the rest). Maybe the church can spend a mission on you this time? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
You could get an associates degree in nursing in 2 years and become and RN. Respiratory therapy, radiology, and other allied sciences are also options. And if you wanted to get a bachelors there are accelerated associates -> bachelors programs out there. Eventually if you wanted to continue your education further you could go into all sorts of health related fields. Nurse anesthetist, optometrist, MD/DO, all sorts of shit. A health related field would force you to leave the house and meet new people which may be great for you. A big reason that I went into medicine and not computer science as most people who knew me would have expected is that I just don't want to spend even more time during my day staring at a computer screen. Not sure how RN wages are in Canada, but an RN with a 2 year degree can make 22-25$ / hour starting pretty easily. Pushing 30$/hour after a couple years of experience. Hell, after a year of working part time you could find a job as a traveling nurse/respiratory therapist etc, and be making 35 - 45$/ hour. A bit harder to find a job with just an associates, but definitely shouldn't be that bad. Health careers are generally very stable. You would have to be prepared to put a LOT of work into school once accepted into a professional program though weather it be nursing or other. I have class 7 hours / day and probably study on average 3 hours a night 5 days a week. That is just one example I am sure there are some other majors that can get you a solid middle class income without going to graduate school. As far as becoming a police officer as I saw you mentioned. You can really major in just about anything. If you are a white male and don't speak a foreign language you probably would want to have a 4 year degree though. Hundreds of people may apply for a few positions in law enforcement and they want a racially and ethnically diverse police force. As a white male you need to stand out that much more. What you major in is of little importance. Most police departments actually prefer non criminal justice degrees. After that you would have to look into local police academies and go to a few more months of some pretty intense schooling. Many police departments also offer internships for students which again would be a huge help as knowing the right people can you get you a long way in the police department. | ||
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Altair
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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El Resplandor
United States187 Posts
On January 03 2010 21:21 Zoler wrote: So many people on TL with some kind of depression problem. Is this just normal or does TL attract this kind of people (not saying I'm better, my life sucks too -.-)? well a lot of people feels better after writing down their emo stuff in a forum i guess, my life suxs too but I don't feel like telling all my problems to random gamers over the internet. I just make a good simcity and defend the ee han timinguu, then counter attack life. Usually mutas can snipe the main problem, and then i just 1a2a3a all my shit, if it fails well u can always camp to rethink wtf u want to do with ur mess. GL + Show Spoiler + Life is simple, wanna succeed? study a lot, prepare urself academically and then get a nice job. Don't wanna study? then work ur ass off at a mcdonalds or whatever eventually with the years u may get something better than that. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On January 03 2010 21:21 Zoler wrote: So many people on TL with some kind of depression problem. Is this just normal or does TL attract this kind of people (not saying I'm better, my life sucks too -.-)? Depression is very common. | ||
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itzme_petey
United States1400 Posts
I recommend studying newer hybrid models because currently people usually go to dealerships to get their maintenance and any repairs done there. Car mechanics are always in need because there will always be cars on the road. In recession, people will opt to repair instead of buying new. Its a service that people will always seek. Start at some tire, brake, and lube shops. You can go to technical school and work at the same time doing minor maintenance duties. Once you get certified the place can give you more responsibility. | ||
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sassme
56 Posts
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Kingfisher
Canada144 Posts
I think the police idea is great as well. I just don't know the details regarding the academy though. | ||
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ulszz
Jamaica1787 Posts
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akevin
Canada120 Posts
"A study by the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology (NAIT) found that, five years out, many of its class of 2002 were earning more than the University of Alberta's medical school grads. NAIT 2002 grads with diplomas in specialized fields such as petroleum engineering technology and electrical engineering technology reported average salaries between 80-100k. Those with NAIT diplomas in diesel mechanic and power engineering technology were making over 100k. Journeymen - in trades from electrician to plumber to carpenter to auto technician - had average salaries of 87k. Many of the jobs most in demand today require a college credential. Between 2005 and 2015, the federal government predicts that nearly 70% of a projected 1.7 million new jobs will be in occupations requiring post-secondary qualifications. Of those, it's estimated that 21.3% will require a university education - but 33.6% will be for college grads and apprentices. The Canadian Federation of Independent Business estimates that 42% of job shortages will be in occupations that usually require college or apprenticeship training versus only 7% in occupations requiring a university education." So yeah, it appears prospects are good for college/apprenticeship training program graduates in Canada (though most of those salaries are probably not nearly as high following Alberta's economic problems recently). But it really depends on what you are interested in, since you really don't want to be working a job you hate for the rest of your life. University could be fine, though based on the information you provided maybe it would be tough for you to handle 4 years in that setting. You could also do degree at a place like Royal Military Collage in Ontario where I think they pay your tuition in exchange for a few years of service (paid) (its been a few years since I knew the exact details). | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On January 03 2010 18:04 Terranist wrote: maybe because he's in a horribly serious financial struggle but still finds the time to post about it on a starcraft progaming message board? Yea, chances are he is just putzin' around on the internet all day doing jack shit while his family suffers because he has some weird psychological problems. @OP: Just keep trying, there are two sides to everything and if you are down, depressed and poor for a long time just know that the next half of your life will hold promise as long as you are a good person. It is all about positive thinking and that is all it comes down to. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On January 03 2010 17:13 stack wrote: The problem is that I dropped out of college two years ago for personal reasons that left me depressed and isolated for the last year (it was a physical type incident that left its marks mentally and physically). it was a physical type incident... very odd wording.. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On January 04 2010 07:34 Physician wrote: it was a physical type incident... very odd wording.. Cmon Physician you can help him more than that!!! | ||
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nebffa
Australia776 Posts
things have to get better sometime | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On January 03 2010 21:21 Zoler wrote: So many people on TL with some kind of depression problem. Is this just normal or does TL attract this kind of people (not saying I'm better, my life sucks too -.-)? People are more open about subjects like depression on the internet, plus it seems logical that a place like TL that seems to have become almost like an alternate society and social circle for many of its users would attract people that have trouble coping with the rest of their lives. | ||
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
On January 04 2010 07:49 nebffa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Xq9f-1lus things have to get better sometime That's a great song! Thanks for sharing! | ||
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sassme
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