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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
December 27 2009 04:59 GMT
#1
Ok, so we've had a million threads on pc builds recently that taught me a lot, so thanks to you guys who contribute advice to those.

With that said, I just want to double check that this build will work and all parts will be compatible before I drop hundreds of dollars paying the stupid tax.

CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Mid Tower

Radeon 5770 video card

2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 RAM

Phenom II x4 955 CPU

I don't know enough about mobos to properly abbreviate this mobo

500GB 7200 RPM Western Digital HDD

OCZ 700W PSU

And on a slightly different note, are widescreen monitors the standard now? There are 4x as many widescreen as square but I've never had one before, do games support them (& will brood war be fine on it?) or do they just have black on the sides?

Thanks in advance!

KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
December 27 2009 05:04 GMT
#2
Black on the sides for bw. It all depends on what the acceptable resolutions for the game are.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 27 2009 05:04 GMT
#3
You definitely do not need a 700W PSU unless you want to upgrade to Xfire later on. Everything else looks solid!

As far as compatibility, after a quick look it all looks fine.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
December 27 2009 05:09 GMT
#4
On December 27 2009 14:04 KingFool wrote:
Black on the sides for bw. It all depends on what the acceptable resolutions for the game are.


Oh, that won't bother me at all, cool!

On December 27 2009 14:04 FragKrag wrote:
You definitely do not need a 700W PSU unless you want to upgrade to Xfire later on. Everything else looks solid!

As far as compatibility, after a quick look it all looks fine.


hmmmm ok, I'll look into a lower W psu. Thanks for the check though, eases my mind more than you can imagine ^^
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
December 27 2009 05:12 GMT
#5
At this point I see little reason to choose the Phenom over an i-5 with its 8mb L3 cache. The price difference is perhaps $20. That's just me though!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:14:00
December 27 2009 05:12 GMT
#6
I don't think a Radeon 5770 will give you much bang for your buck, generally anything ATI that's not x8xx is a bit of a warning sign.

I could be wrong here though.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 27 2009 05:16 GMT
#7
Citizen: motherboards are a bitch! Though if he has the spare money lying around an i5 would be a great idea.

writer22816: Wrong. Atm the 5850 is a great card, but the 5870 is a bit of a waste (lets not get into 5970). The 5770 hits the sweet spot that the 4870 did except with better software support and better power usage. The 5770 is considered for the most part to be one of the most cost effective cards.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:27:10
December 27 2009 05:21 GMT
#8
not that there is anything particularly wrong with that harddrive but the wd caviar blue 640gb has proven to be the go to drive around that price range

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218&cm_re=wd_640gb-_-22-136-218-_-Product

also, know that the c3 stepping 955 is known to overclock better even though it might be a bit more expensive. just something to consider.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808&cm_re=phenom_ii_x4_955-_-19-103-808-_-Product

also the amps on the 12V rails for that power supply seem pretty low. i'm no expert on the subject though.

oh and widescreens are pretty standard now. whether you have black bars or not depends on your graphics card settings.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:56:23
December 27 2009 05:43 GMT
#9
Your ram is a little pricey, are you set on that ram? even with increased prices you should be able to find ram for a little cheaper
*edit* removed the ram
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
December 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#10
your psu has tons of wattage. get something like 400-500W is very sufficient. but you must pick a good quality one with enough on the 12V rail to satisfy the requirements of the video card. your choice for AMD is meh for me.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
December 27 2009 05:49 GMT
#11
im stealin ur rig trumpet
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 27 2009 05:50 GMT
#12
KOF I believe that ram isn't compatible with AM3 boards, and only with socket 1156 (i5/i7 sub 900)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
December 27 2009 05:50 GMT
#13
and why are you getting 2 sticks of DDR3 RAM?

that ram runs best in triple chnl, so you should get 3 sticks.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 05:52:58
December 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#14
On December 27 2009 14:50 ramen247 wrote:
and why are you getting 2 sticks of DDR3 RAM?

that ram runs best in triple chnl, so you should get 3 sticks.


triple channel does not work on AM3 boards if I remember correctly.

edit: I think only on i7 :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
December 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#15
On December 27 2009 14:50 FragKrag wrote:
KOF I believe that ram isn't compatible with AM3 boards, and only with socket 1156 (i5/i7 sub 900)


touche
i bought it for my i5 rig so..it's fine for me lol
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 06:23:42
December 27 2009 06:23 GMT
#16
As it has been said, psu is overkill, go down to a quality 400-500W model.
I find this drive to be a better value than the WD Caviar Black at the 500GB size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Rest of the build looks really solid.

16 : 9 is becoming the widescreen standard. The best bang for your buck will be in 21" or 23" 1920x1080 monitors. 16:10 is more expensive but they're definitely better monitors unless you plan on watching lots of movies on your computer or something. If you go for a 16:10 monitor, 24" size is optimal (1920x1200).
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
December 27 2009 06:32 GMT
#17
This might just be personal preference, but I wouldn't trust Samsung as much as WD.

I also believe WD drives are generally faster than Samsung (esp c black)?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 27 2009 06:59 GMT
#18
On December 27 2009 15:32 FragKrag wrote:
This might just be personal preference, but I wouldn't trust Samsung as much as WD.

I also believe WD drives are generally faster than Samsung (esp c black)?

Agreed.

WD has always been good to me
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 27 2009 07:25 GMT
#19
Wish I had money for a decent mobo and an i7.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 27 2009 07:25 GMT
#20
On December 27 2009 14:50 FragKrag wrote:
KOF I believe that ram isn't compatible with AM3 boards, and only with socket 1156 (i5/i7 sub 900)


Why would it not be compatible?

Apart from the latency, it would be pretty stupid for the vendor to segment their products this way.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 27 2009 07:28 GMT
#21
Make sure you get the C3 stepping if you want to over clock. Apart from that there is nothing really to be said.

i5 would be a dead socket soon. i9 release will be on 1366, way to douche your fanbois intel.

To be honest, 720BE is more than you need and it costs half the price, upgrade to a 6 core when they come out.

Personally I would get a seasonic PSU. It might costs a little more but I know i'm getting a good product.

I hate your case tho. I've got one and it's loud as a mofo.

Get a Lian-Li and you will thank me.
Rillanon.au
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 07:42:23
December 27 2009 07:41 GMT
#22
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail - My choice with a 5770.
Good luck.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 08:13:56
December 27 2009 08:13 GMT
#23
On December 27 2009 15:59 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 15:32 FragKrag wrote:
This might just be personal preference, but I wouldn't trust Samsung as much as WD.

I also believe WD drives are generally faster than Samsung (esp c black)?

Agreed.

WD has always been good to me

Personal preference is a strong factor with many recommendations (who isn't guilty of this at times), but unless the manufacturer in question has an egregious reputation, there is no need to take one manufacturer over the other when the product I recommended provides comparable performance for less than what WD is offering.
(Here is a translation of a German article on the drive)

Samsung makes excellent hard drives, and frankly the cult-like following WD has is a bit much. Please base reviews more on facts and not reputation. The only reason why I would see someone taking the Black over the F3 would be the warranty, which is in this case 5 vs 3 years. IMO this is not worth the extra $15.

On December 27 2009 16:41 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail - My choice with a 5770.
Good luck.

This is an excellent PSU and I second this recommendation.
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
December 27 2009 08:31 GMT
#24
I have a widescreen monitor and BW doesn't have black boxes on the sides for me. It does look a little stretched though but you get used to it
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
December 27 2009 08:54 GMT
#25
Looks great, you didn't make any mistakes.
U Gotta Skate.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 27 2009 13:16 GMT
#26
On December 27 2009 17:13 xmShake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 15:59 0mgVitaminE wrote:
On December 27 2009 15:32 FragKrag wrote:
This might just be personal preference, but I wouldn't trust Samsung as much as WD.

I also believe WD drives are generally faster than Samsung (esp c black)?

Agreed.

WD has always been good to me

Personal preference is a strong factor with many recommendations (who isn't guilty of this at times), but unless the manufacturer in question has an egregious reputation, there is no need to take one manufacturer over the other when the product I recommended provides comparable performance for less than what WD is offering.
(Here is a translation of a German article on the drive)

Samsung makes excellent hard drives, and frankly the cult-like following WD has is a bit much. Please base reviews more on facts and not reputation. The only reason why I would see someone taking the Black over the F3 would be the warranty, which is in this case 5 vs 3 years. IMO this is not worth the extra $15.

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 16:41 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail - My choice with a 5770.
Good luck.

This is an excellent PSU and I second this recommendation.


samsung makes excellent drives. F3 have the best sequential speed out of all vendors.

It's not like any VENDOR is bad or anything. Even Hitachi, who is infamous for their deathstar drives have shaped up.

If you want speed, only velociraptor or SSD is really worth the money, everything else is just fluff.
Some drive is better than others but the speed difference is hardly noticeable and they are all the same price anyway. No need to stress it, just get some thing cheap and upgrade to SSD when they mature.

Sad to see seasonic not getting any love here
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 27 2009 13:17 GMT
#27
On December 27 2009 17:31 Methos wrote:
I have a widescreen monitor and BW doesn't have black boxes on the sides for me. It does look a little stretched though but you get used to it


I rather play with the black bars instead of the stretch. The goons look weird stretched
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 27 2009 13:20 GMT
#28
On December 27 2009 15:59 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 15:32 FragKrag wrote:
This might just be personal preference, but I wouldn't trust Samsung as much as WD.

I also believe WD drives are generally faster than Samsung (esp c black)?

Agreed.

WD has always been good to me


There are two qualities of a hard drive. One is sequential write, one is random access speed.

WD is faster on random access but inferior in sequential. Samsung are quieter as well.

I would pick a small drive with faster access and pick a good sequential for data storage.
Rillanon.au
WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
December 27 2009 14:54 GMT
#29
On December 27 2009 14:21 mahnini wrote:
not that there is anything particularly wrong with that harddrive but the wd caviar blue 640gb has proven to be the go to drive around that price range

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218&cm_re=wd_640gb-_-22-136-218-_-Product

also, know that the c3 stepping 955 is known to overclock better even though it might be a bit more expensive. just something to consider.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808&cm_re=phenom_ii_x4_955-_-19-103-808-_-Product

also the amps on the 12V rails for that power supply seem pretty low. i'm no expert on the subject though.

oh and widescreens are pretty standard now. whether you have black bars or not depends on your graphics card settings.


That PSU is fine.

It's a dual 12V rail, meaning it's 18A x 2 for a total of 36A.
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