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Today, I was happy to witness a battle between   Ret and   Artosis. It came out of the blue: Ret fought another flawless battle against another brave opponent, when our-favourite-Terran wrote his challenge message by using PM. Could The Cerebrate toss away such opportunity? Of course not. As I was watching the struggle (from Ret's perspective, of course), I tried to capture some highlights for you. Here you go!
Set 1 (Python):
+ Show Spoiler +Ret at 8 o'clock opened with 12Hatch into Spire. It soon turned out that Artosis spawned at 6 o'clock, making the game a 'neighborhood' battle. Though it wasn't revealed, I'm pretty sure Terran went for 2Rax into CC build. Ret initially responded with gang of Speedlings that watched over Artosis' natural entrance. Those 'dogs' ate 2 careless Marines, which completely discouraged M&M counter, thus allowing Ret to skip some Sunkens and get 3rd Hatch in 1 o'clock main even before Spire was finished. The timing turned out perfectly, and Zerg ended up with 9 Mutas harassing the enemy left and right. Artosis' turrets were slightly off-time and Ret's clever maneuvers abused the difficulties infantry groups have when moved through ramps. With instructive micro, Zerg sniped full-control group of Marines, as well as some SCV's, few Turrets and Starport. This violent attack bought him a lot of time to power-up economy at 3rd base and swich to Lurkers. After using Mutas and Lings as defensive screen against Marines, Ret marched with 7 Lurkers into Terran natural, catching off-guard poorly positioned Tanks and forcing GG.
Ret vs Artosis 1-0
The second game was even more interesting.
Set 2 (Python):
+ Show Spoiler +At 6 o'clock Ret again used 12Hatch, this time without immediate Overlord scout. Yet, his Drone after long trip found Terran who's been finishing 1st Barracks. Artosis' initial Marine inflicted some damage to Drone, but Ret managed to keep it alive long enough to plant a manner Hatchery in opponent's natural. Amused with this, Artosis went for more Marines instead of early expo, which actually paid off a bit, when Mutas arrived. This time M&M's horde caught some intruders in the middle of their dirty job and sniped. However, Artosis was once again unable to inflict any damage on Ret's expos and Swarm went unharassed into the moment he had bunch of Lurkers. Finally, Terran pushed out with Tank support, but after two beautifully executed attacks he was caught in the middle first and pounded at his choke second time.
Ret vs Artosis 2-0
At this point, Ret took a little break and watched Artosis' game against some other Zerg. I have no idea if they played again today.
Some images below:
+ Show Spoiler +Who needs actions when you have words?What's up Marines?Brrr... Mutas are scary.Yes, that many Lurkers!Caught with his pants down.Manner Hatchery FTW!Your Marines Art are great and I'll let you finish......But Ret has some best Lurker control eva!This is Terran army before......And this after.
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Nice write up mate 
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well, though I respect artosis's efforts, I'd rather see games vs other B- people because they'll be more interesting to watch. He challenges ret a bit too often while he's streaming.
Obviously ret can play whoever he wants, I just like to see more challenge in the games.
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I'm pretty sure ret went 3hatch on both games.
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you mean killing a drone and than place a hatch?
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iNcontroL
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EDIT: Oops nevermind rofl
Nice games
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Artosis is obviously no challenge is Ret is dropping manner Hatcheries on him, he isnt taking it seriously and knows he can win even if he messes around. Anyone agree or disagree?
BTW, Nice comment iNcontroL
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There's no doubt that Ret's a better player, but that sure as hell doesn't take anything away from Artosis, given Ret's epic awesomeness  .
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Artosis takes games off ret more than you would think. Just because he dont stream it and run around handing out replays dont mean he isnt good. He just does not care what everyone else thinks.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
yeah artosis is still pretty good..ahzz..your comment isn't really justified.
enjoyed this blog btw
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nobody is saying artosis is bad and cant beat ret no matter what. I know that he's quite good.
At least my point was that ret is still considerably better, and the games would be more entertaining to watch games vs other people on iccup that are rets rank in general.
Also, if what you imply is true (artosis beating ret more than we think), why don't we see that happen very often every time ret streams, and why do the games in general look somewhat one-sided?
And I'd like to bring out once more that I don't want this to be artosis bash blog in any sense at all. I'm just bringing out what I'd personally rather see.
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iNcontroL
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ahzz has always had some stupid vendetta against media players.
Pretty funny considering how horribly unaccomplished/bad he is rofl
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nobody is saying artosis is bad
Wait, what?
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Damn, I somehow read this as Rek vs Artosis hoping that the reps would finally come out.
Though I guess this was good too
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On September 22 2009 04:44 qaswedfr25 wrote:
Damn, I somehow read this as Rek vs Artosis hoping that the reps would finally come out.
Though I guess this was good too
lol, the reps have been out for so long XD
although i have no idea where you'd find them now 
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On September 22 2009 04:21 Ahzz wrote:
nobody is saying artosis is bad and cant beat ret no matter what. I know that he's quite good.
At least my point was that ret is still considerably better, and the games would be more entertaining to watch games vs other people on iccup that are rets rank in general.
Also, if what you imply is true (artosis beating ret more than we think), why don't we see that happen very often every time ret streams, and why do the games in general look somewhat one-sided?
And I'd like to bring out once more that I don't want this to be artosis bash blog in any sense at all. I'm just bringing out what I'd personally rather see.
LOL
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On September 22 2009 04:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
ahzz has always had some stupid vendetta against media players.
Pretty funny considering how horribly unaccomplished/bad he is rofl
Doesn't he have a winning/even record against you on Iccup? Also, he did get A- last season so if you considered that bad then I don't know what is good.
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iNcontroL
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yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that.
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*gives a tissue to artosis
"we still love you"
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On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that.
Please stop making us feel bad inc.
Nice screenshots. I enjoyed your report.
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On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that.
very nice. What's even more nice about it is that we've never played in a serious match against each other right?
besides, when did I claim to be better than you or artosis?
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iNcontroL
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On September 22 2009 13:31 Ahzz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that. very nice. What's even more nice about it is that we've never played in a serious match against each other right? besides, when did I claim to be better than you or artosis?
nah we faced in a cw long ago.. I won iirc.
you didn't claim that but you damn near have something bad to say whenever one of us is mentioned in a thread.
You aren't horrific in your comments but I am keeping tabs. You are rather bitter.. for reasons that are pretty unfound. I made my comment because it'd be one thing if you were gaming in the same leagues and beating/losing to us on a weekly basis or w/e and had several altercations with us. As far as I can tell you are just some random dude who ladders and leagues a lil but has something negative to say damn near every time you get the chance.
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On September 22 2009 13:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 13:31 Ahzz wrote:On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that. very nice. What's even more nice about it is that we've never played in a serious match against each other right? besides, when did I claim to be better than you or artosis? nah we faced in a cw long ago.. I won iirc. you didn't claim that but you damn near have something bad to say whenever one of us is mentioned in a thread. You aren't horrific in your comments but I am keeping tabs. You are rather bitter.. for reasons that are pretty unfound. I made my comment because it'd be one thing if you were gaming in the same leagues and beating/losing to us on a weekly basis or w/e and had several altercations with us. As far as I can tell you are just some random dude who ladders and leagues a lil but has something negative to say damn near every time you get the chance.
Oh really this sounds so unlike you loooool
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iNcontroL
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and in sweeps ganfei with the comment roflflflfl
Hey dude, how was the last ban? You ready for the next one? Wanna make a blog explaining what it's like being the most banned guy on TL.net? You are famous!
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On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that.
i vaguely remember in wcg qualifiers ls won vs you?
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I used to destroy DanArtosis Zvt years ago almost daily. His terran is muck
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On September 22 2009 14:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
and in sweeps ganfei with the comment roflflflfl
Hey dude, how was the last ban? You ready for the next one? Wanna make a blog explaining what it's like being the most banned guy on TL.net? You are famous!
You are a broken record
oh please don't start keeping tabs on me too!!
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iNcontroL
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On September 22 2009 14:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that. i vaguely remember in wcg qualifiers ls won vs you?
Yup then in the elimination match of the final 4 I beat him 2-0 (matters).
ganfei: You were the one who ran in and made a comment as per usual. Obviously I am going to point out that you have been doing that EXACT THING for like, 10 ID's now? Lol how many is it now?
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Quit playing the victim incontrol, at 2.7 posts a day I hardly "swoop" in anywhere to "run in" because of you. Don't flatter yourself.
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iNcontroL
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uh doesn't that prove my point? If half your daily posts are flaming that guy who you have flamed on the other 20 or so ID's wouldn't that just prove how pathetically broken you are?
I'm hardly a victim. Well.. no more than a person swatting a mosquito is a victim anyways.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
everyone who doesnt think artosis is cool is a retard
i could watch him play all day as long as i'm on vent to hear him fill my head with wisdom like 'zerglings are a great unit'
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On September 22 2009 15:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
uh doesn't that prove my point? If half your daily posts are flaming that guy who you have flamed on the other 20 or so ID's wouldn't that just prove how pathetically broken you are?
I'm hardly a victim. Well.. no more than a person swatting a mosquito is a victim anyways.
I didn't call you a victim. I said "stop playing the victim." You are extremely dimwitted. Probably 30 or so posts from this account are addressed to you. Grow up. It's pathetic that anything I say will immediately be met by you crying and whining about how I "follow" you and blahblahblah. It's old. Anyone with marginal observational skills can see that it's ridiculous to even attempt to claim that. Quit crying. Your concept of "flaming" unbelievably skewed, and you ludicrously misjudge the number of posts I use to say anything to you. Stop reading everything I say through your lens of stupidity wherein you think I give a shit about you or have anything to say to you that is any different from what I might say to someone else.
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Artosis you are really good dont listen to them they just jealous.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 22 2009 16:01 mrgerry wrote:
Artosis you are really good dont listen to them they just jealous.
everybody QUOTE mrgerry's post HE KNOWS whats the score
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On September 22 2009 16:01 mrgerry wrote:
Artosis you are really good dont listen to them they just jealous.
well if fakesteve said to do it how bad can it be? Are these reps actually still anywhere?
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iNcontroL
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On September 22 2009 15:41 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 15:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
uh doesn't that prove my point? If half your daily posts are flaming that guy who you have flamed on the other 20 or so ID's wouldn't that just prove how pathetically broken you are?
I'm hardly a victim. Well.. no more than a person swatting a mosquito is a victim anyways. I didn't call you a victim. I said "stop playing the victim." You are extremely dimwitted. Probably 30 or so posts from this account are addressed to you. Grow up. It's pathetic that anything I say will immediately be met by you crying and whining about how I "follow" you and blahblahblah. It's old. Anyone with marginal observational skills can see that it's ridiculous to even attempt to claim that. Quit crying. Your concept of "flaming" unbelievably skewed, and you ludicrously misjudge the number of posts I use to say anything to you. Stop reading everything I say through your lens of stupidity wherein you think I give a shit about you or have anything to say to you that is any different from what I might say to someone else.
I love how you literally just block out the fact that you've literally been banned more than anyone else.. and 90% of those bans were for comments you made TO ME. Then you proclaim to have some white-horse or w/e where you can call other people dumb for telling you as much.
face it dude, you are a really bad bad poster who gets banned ALL the time and it is usually because you harrass me and a few others. You literally never address the fact that you are the most banned person on TL because it would unravel your tiny wall of self-made pride or something.. I am literally running out of ideas for why you insist on following me around and taking little jabs then arguing with me when I go "lol look @ ganfei being dumb." Isn't this song and dance old yet? Here is a hint: stop trolling me and perhaps you will get an account past 1500 posts. It is laughable how locked on you are and when you get called out you do a bunch of sideways glances and act all smug rofl.
get banned ganfei. It's what you do best around here.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
wow FUCK u incntorl, u didnt even say 1 thing about nhow cool artosis is
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On September 22 2009 13:53 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 13:31 Ahzz wrote:On September 22 2009 08:10 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah he might have a winning record/equal record on a ladder against me. LS does as well. But in CW's / things that matter I never lose to either.
If getting A- is your sole accomplishment you are terrible. Trust me on that. very nice. What's even more nice about it is that we've never played in a serious match against each other right? besides, when did I claim to be better than you or artosis? nah we faced in a cw long ago.. I won iirc. you didn't claim that but you damn near have something bad to say whenever one of us is mentioned in a thread. You aren't horrific in your comments but I am keeping tabs. You are rather bitter.. for reasons that are pretty unfound. I made my comment because it'd be one thing if you were gaming in the same leagues and beating/losing to us on a weekly basis or w/e and had several altercations with us. As far as I can tell you are just some random dude who ladders and leagues a lil but has something negative to say damn near every time you get the chance.
Alright fair enough, though I didn't mean anything personal in this thread.
What I basically meant that I'd rather watch worlds best fighter vs second best fighter, rather than worlds best vs worlds 20-30th best fighter, who will probably lose though who has a some kind of a chance to win.
That's all I meant in this thread honestly, I just like to see good and fair games.
Obviously every ladder dude ret faces isn't as good as artosis either, and some of the games against random ladder people are actually less interesting to watch, but still.
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iNcontroL
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yeah that makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.. sorry I kinda jumped on you ahzz. You seem fairly level headed/chill.
I will rethink my theory on you! 
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Don't think for one second that i've stopped keeping tabs on you, Ahzz.
I see right through your little game.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
inc/ganfei, don't derail this thread any further. Take it to PM.
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On September 22 2009 15:21 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
everyone who doesnt think artosis is cool is a retard
i could watch him play all day as long as i'm on vent to hear him fill my head with wisdom like 'zerglings are a great unit'
he stole that from me
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