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levelzx
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland174 Posts
September 21 2009 17:43 GMT
#1
Today, I was happy to witness a battle between (Z)(nl)Ret and (T)(us)Artosis. It came out of the blue: Ret fought another flawless battle against another brave opponent, when our-favourite-Terran wrote his challenge message by using PM. Could The Cerebrate toss away such opportunity? Of course not. As I was watching the struggle (from Ret's perspective, of course), I tried to capture some highlights for you. Here you go!

Set 1 (Python):

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Ret at 8 o'clock opened with 12Hatch into Spire. It soon turned out that Artosis spawned at 6 o'clock, making the game a 'neighborhood' battle. Though it wasn't revealed, I'm pretty sure Terran went for 2Rax into CC build. Ret initially responded with gang of Speedlings that watched over Artosis' natural entrance. Those 'dogs' ate 2 careless Marines, which completely discouraged M&M counter, thus allowing Ret to skip some Sunkens and get 3rd Hatch in 1 o'clock main even before Spire was finished. The timing turned out perfectly, and Zerg ended up with 9 Mutas harassing the enemy left and right. Artosis' turrets were slightly off-time and Ret's clever maneuvers abused the difficulties infantry groups have when moved through ramps. With instructive micro, Zerg sniped full-control group of Marines, as well as some SCV's, few Turrets and Starport. This violent attack bought him a lot of time to power-up economy at 3rd base and swich to Lurkers. After using Mutas and Lings as defensive screen against Marines, Ret marched with 7 Lurkers into Terran natural, catching off-guard poorly positioned Tanks and forcing GG.

Ret vs Artosis 1-0


The second game was even more interesting.

Set 2 (Python):

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At 6 o'clock Ret again used 12Hatch, this time without immediate Overlord scout. Yet, his Drone after long trip found Terran who's been finishing 1st Barracks. Artosis' initial Marine inflicted some damage to Drone, but Ret managed to keep it alive long enough to plant a manner Hatchery in opponent's natural. Amused with this, Artosis went for more Marines instead of early expo, which actually paid off a bit, when Mutas arrived. This time M&M's horde caught some intruders in the middle of their dirty job and sniped. However, Artosis was once again unable to inflict any damage on Ret's expos and Swarm went unharassed into the moment he had bunch of Lurkers. Finally, Terran pushed out with Tank support, but after two beautifully executed attacks he was caught in the middle first and pounded at his choke second time.

Ret vs Artosis 2-0


At this point, Ret took a little break and watched Artosis' game against some other Zerg. I have no idea if they played again today.

Some images below:

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Who needs actions when you have words?

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What's up Marines?

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Brrr... Mutas are scary.

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Yes, that many Lurkers!

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Caught with his pants down.

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Manner Hatchery FTW!

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Your Marines Art are great and I'll let you finish...

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...But Ret has some best Lurker control eva!

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This is Terran army before...

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...And this after.


*****
Favourite Protoss - Stork, Favourite Terran - Flash, Favourite Zerg - Calm
teekuppi
Profile Joined April 2008
78 Posts
September 21 2009 17:51 GMT
#2
Nice write up mate
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
September 21 2009 17:58 GMT
#3
well, though I respect artosis's efforts, I'd rather see games vs other B- people because they'll be more interesting to watch. He challenges ret a bit too often while he's streaming.
Obviously ret can play whoever he wants, I just like to see more challenge in the games.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 21 2009 17:58 GMT
#4
I'm pretty sure ret went 3hatch on both games.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
September 21 2009 18:21 GMT
#5
you mean killing a drone and than place a hatch?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 21 2009 18:25 GMT
#6
lol
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-21 18:34:20
September 21 2009 18:33 GMT
#7
EDIT: Oops nevermind rofl

Nice games
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 21 2009 18:34 GMT
#8
Artosis is obviously no challenge is Ret is dropping manner Hatcheries on him, he isnt taking it seriously and knows he can win even if he messes around. Anyone agree or disagree?

BTW, Nice comment iNcontroL
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 21 2009 18:45 GMT
#9
There's no doubt that Ret's a better player, but that sure as hell doesn't take anything away from Artosis, given Ret's epic awesomeness .
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
September 21 2009 18:48 GMT
#10
Artosis takes games off ret more than you would think. Just because he dont stream it and run around handing out replays dont mean he isnt good. He just does not care what everyone else thinks.
I'm like, the coolest
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-21 19:14:07
September 21 2009 19:13 GMT
#11
yeah artosis is still pretty good..ahzz..your comment isn't really justified.

enjoyed this blog btw
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Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
September 21 2009 19:21 GMT
#12
nobody is saying artosis is bad and cant beat ret no matter what. I know that he's quite good.
At least my point was that ret is still considerably better, and the games would be more entertaining to watch games vs other people on iccup that are rets rank in general.
Also, if what you imply is true (artosis beating ret more than we think), why don't we see that happen very often every time ret streams, and why do the games in general look somewhat one-sided?

And I'd like to bring out once more that I don't want this to be artosis bash blog in any sense at all. I'm just bringing out what I'd personally rather see.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 21 2009 19:24 GMT
#13
artosis bash blog! go!
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 21 2009 19:28 GMT
#14
ahzz has always had some stupid vendetta against media players.

Pretty funny considering how horribly unaccomplished/bad he is rofl
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
September 21 2009 19:31 GMT
#15
nobody is saying artosis is bad


Wait, what?
Chains none
qaswedfr25
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States212 Posts
September 21 2009 19:44 GMT
#16
Damn, I somehow read this as Rek vs Artosis hoping that the reps would finally come out.
Though I guess this was good too
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
September 21 2009 19:49 GMT
#17
On September 22 2009 04:44 qaswedfr25 wrote:
Damn, I somehow read this as Rek vs Artosis hoping that the reps would finally come out.
Though I guess this was good too


lol, the reps have been out for so long XD

although i have no idea where you'd find them now
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
September 21 2009 19:59 GMT
#18
I thought this said Rek.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
September 21 2009 22:58 GMT
#19
On September 22 2009 04:21 Ahzz wrote:
nobody is saying artosis is bad and cant beat ret no matter what. I know that he's quite good.
At least my point was that ret is still considerably better, and the games would be more entertaining to watch games vs other people on iccup that are rets rank in general.
Also, if what you imply is true (artosis beating ret more than we think), why don't we see that happen very often every time ret streams, and why do the games in general look somewhat one-sided?

And I'd like to bring out once more that I don't want this to be artosis bash blog in any sense at all. I'm just bringing out what I'd personally rather see.


LOL
aka DragOn[NaS]
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-21 23:09:31
September 21 2009 23:05 GMT
#20
On September 22 2009 04:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
ahzz has always had some stupid vendetta against media players.

Pretty funny considering how horribly unaccomplished/bad he is rofl

Doesn't he have a winning/even record against you on Iccup? Also, he did get A- last season so if you considered that bad then I don't know what is good.
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