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-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
September 02 2009 04:15 GMT
#41
I will never be a teacher again. I got 0 joy out of it besides meeting the students. It made me question if I should take anger management once I stopped.

It was 1yr. If your wondering.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
September 02 2009 05:18 GMT
#42
Seriously, you won't make 40k teaching English in China. Not even close to that.
Getting a job is easy in China but getting a GOOD job that pays you well and give you all the benefits is hard.
You might score something for companies that have branches in China. But you don't look for those positions when you are in China, you do it from USA.
Rillanon.au
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
September 02 2009 05:26 GMT
#43
On September 02 2009 07:37 haduken wrote:
I don't see any straight forward way for you to get a job in China with your major. If you were engineering or business grad it would be so much easier. Chinese economy is doing better than the rest but the job market is bleak as hell. Remember that we have a lot more grads finishing each year competing against the same number of jobs. There are also significant percentage of positions that are off limits to foreigners (especially anything to do with politics.)

But yeah my suggestion is that you either try to get a junior role in a western embassy or sign up on international student program at one of Beijing's universities. Once your Chinese improved then go on and look for a better job while teaching English on the side to feed yourself.

Do you speak persian? if you do, then try to get a role in united nations.

just my 2cents.


I don't get why this post has been ignored. It's probably the best advice in the thread. You might want to rethink china since finding a job there is a little tough right now. I also don't think many chinese companies would need polsci grads.

I recommend that you just get a job in a big international company and try to get a posting in a foreign country. You might have a high chance since you have polsci degree. Note that this is all speculation... I don't know how easy it is to get an international posting with a polsci degree but I think that it would help...
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 07:14:21
September 02 2009 07:13 GMT
#44
My opinion following your post and your reasoning: you don't know anything. Good luck finding your 40k a year USD job in China with your credentials and attitude.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
September 02 2009 08:01 GMT
#45
Duranticus! I love you! I have no advice other then do what makes you happy. Good luck!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
September 02 2009 08:03 GMT
#46
I have a couple of acquaintances who did political science stuff. I'm not sure about overseas postings, but here are the departments/ministries/organisations you can try:

Ministry of Foreign Affairs (or equivalent)

United Nations or one of their organisations (UNICEF, UNESCO etc.)

Any international organisation with a head office such as the EU or WTO

An aid organisation/NGO which operates internationally such as Mercy Relief and Doctors Without Borders (they sometimes need people to provide information on the places they are going)

An international investment house or financial organisation that might need research on the countries they invest in (this is a longer shot)


If you just want to work in France or China, then look for such organisations which have headquarters based in these places. if you don't mind casting your net a bit broader, then you can try looking based on the organisation's roles rather than location.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 02 2009 08:12 GMT
#47
Without any prior work experience in the field you like, you won't get paid much.

France could be about the worst place abroad to find a decent paid job.

With your current degree, your best shot would be to try and sell papers to US / UK journals.

Meh, you could actually write dumb articles on french policies for US / UK ... that sells.

Unless you know some very influencial person in a company that is willing to hire you for a decent ammount, your chances are very slim at regular job things here >.>
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 02 2009 08:18 GMT
#48
Also don't listen to all these ppl telling you to apply ministries etc...

1 st : it's insanely long and hard.

2nd : tons of ppl already trying with better / equivalent degree and more experience.

3rd : You'll get paid shit at your current level.

Institutions are a very long shot in europe, and every single interesting position there, is a hardcore race between many devoted high profiled euro students.

Even with good connections here (wich is fucking uncommon), I really doubt you get anything nice =[.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 10:10:12
September 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#49
What boonbag said.
It is actually quite hard to get a decent job in France. Not only you will have to get a good degree and be fluent but you will also need some good connections.
There are tons of people who went to Sci-po and want to get a job. You will have to compete against them.
And i'm not even talking about the countless students from uni.

Also you will need to pass some competitive examinations if you want to get a job in civil service and it would be a complete waste of time if you only plan to stay here one or two years.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
September 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#50
On September 02 2009 12:28 Xeris wrote:
Not fluent, but good enough. You're right though I guess about the Chinese... but actually China does A LOT of business with Iran, I might be attractive to them =P

sometimes they'll hire you if you're white even if you have absolutely no knowledge of mandarin

it's sad because one look at me and they assume I speak fluent chinese, and then I fail utterly
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 10:05:54
September 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#51
Oh and if you want to make money ( from what i see in the OP ) don't come here.
Getting a job is hard and life is ridiculously expensive.
Could be interesting for experience and culture though.
But you won't get more money than in the US. 200% sure ( yea i know the economy is crap atm but here it is the same ).
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
September 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#52
On September 02 2009 17:18 Boonbag wrote:
Also don't listen to all these ppl telling you to apply ministries etc...

1 st : it's insanely long and hard.

2nd : tons of ppl already trying with better / equivalent degree and more experience.

3rd : You'll get paid shit at your current level.

Institutions are a very long shot in europe, and every single interesting position there, is a hardcore race between many devoted high profiled euro students.

Even with good connections here (wich is fucking uncommon), I really doubt you get anything nice =[.


If you want him to find a job which is not insanely long and hard, there aren't any people trying with equivalent or better degrees and more experience and which pays a lot, there aren't any, ministry or no ministry. He might as well give up.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-02 13:06:03
September 02 2009 13:03 GMT
#53
On September 02 2009 11:30 SanguineToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 11:11 Xeris wrote:
On September 02 2009 10:49 SanguineToss wrote:
To freshen up your dim lightbulb of a brain this is what u said
First off: NO, I don't want a dumbass teaching job in Korea or anywhere else, I am looking for a real, substantial job that will give me good experience and look nice on a grad school application.

you said you dont want a dumbass teaching job because it doesnt give you a 'REAL' (what the fuck how much more real can a job get) and a 'Substantial job' ( ????????) that will give u a good epxerience and will look nice on your application. So your implying that teaching in Korea or overseas posesess not one of those things. Therefore your insulting.

Face it, your OP was negative all around.


Real and substantial for me. Note how this is my blog, where presumably I'm talking about things pertaining to me. If I was posting in the GENERAL forum, maybe then you could think I was making general statements, but as this is a blog about me and my life, when I say 'dumbass teaching job' I'm referring to the fact that everyone I've said this to so far has said "oh just go teach overseas!", which is not what I want to do. Why? Not because it's inherently bad, but because for my career, teaching English won't help me at all.

Plus I already have three years of teaching at the high school level, so additional teaching overseas won't do anything for me. The difference between Chill's response and yours was that he just said I was a dumbass for looking down on teaching jobs (I don't), and you insulted me by calling me an asshole and an egoist. There's a difference.



Cool story man.

real and substantial for you and yes this is your blog. So let me sum it up. In YOUR BLOG where its YOUR own fairy tale and you control everything. YOU think that TEACHING is below your level and NOT real. Its exactly the same whether its in your world, my world, my blog or your blog. Your insult was uncalled for and it suprises me that your defending yourself up to this point.

Think about it this way, if i wrote the blog that you had wrote would you not feel the same way?
Sounds like your bubble has been burst and you're butthurt over it. Aside from the learning the language of the country you're in, teaching English isn't relevant experience for anything besides another teaching job. Saying "I had this cool experience in another country" doesn't mean anything to an employer.

It's a stepping stone to other things, but not the things Xeris wants to do. He wants to get his career started, and that doesn't involve teaching.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 02 2009 18:14 GMT
#54
On September 02 2009 16:13 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
My opinion following your post and your reasoning: you don't know anything. Good luck finding your 40k a year USD job in China with your credentials and attitude.


My whole entire point of making this blog is to say "I dont know anything, please give me advice TL because maybe there are some people who have been in my position and know more than me" .

jesus lol
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
pandabearguy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States252 Posts
September 03 2009 01:41 GMT
#55
wow so many haters itt

i don't have anything relevant to add, really, but i'm going to be graduating ucr in spring with a posc-IR degree, so if you find out that IR majors are really in demand for some lucrative job, feel free to pass on the info

magna cum laude from UCSD is some good shit, best of luck
aka [ucr]pandabearg. much <3
Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
September 03 2009 13:24 GMT
#56
Blizzard Europe (near Paris) http://eu.blizzard.com/en/jobs/

Paris is probably the best place in France to find a job. And even if the life cost more, you'll be paid more... But I can't help you about Political Science jobs :/
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
September 08 2009 07:13 GMT
#57
just in case it comes down to it: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/

However, teaching in France will require you to have a masters in TESOL or at least a certificate.

I also kinda resent how you worded that (and I'm not even a teacher!) but I do understand what you were trying to say. Could have done with out the "dumbass" part of it and just say that you want something that's more towards your specific major than lumping teaching as a profession that is something that is not substantial. =/

Good luck. All I know about political science jobs is that you gotta know someone. Isn't that how politics work?
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 08 2009 08:20 GMT
#58
You need connections to find jobs in China.

If you are in tech, there might be a few companies with global campuses hiring. I'm not too sure about poli-sci.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 08:21:53
September 08 2009 08:21 GMT
#59
nvm
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
1984
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Ukraine115 Posts
September 08 2009 17:31 GMT
#60
Lol, harsh reality strike incoming I guess.
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