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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 30 2009 13:19 GMT
#1
KTF MagicNs vs Hwaseung Oz on MBC
(Z)(Z)Luxury<Battle Royal>(Z)(Z)Jaedong
(T)(T)Flash<Neo Medusa>(T)(T)HiyA
(Z)(Z)HoeJJa<Heartbreak Ridge>(P)(P)BackHo
(P)(P)Violet<Outsider>(T)(T)Lomo
Closer: <God's Garden>
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 30 2009 13:36 GMT
#2
OZ autovote... it started to cost me but w/e
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
April 30 2009 14:55 GMT
#3
Luxury < Jaedong
Flash > Hiya
HoeJJa > BackHo
Violet < Lomo

Ace:
Flash > Jaedong

3-2 KTF!
This signature is ruining eSports.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
April 30 2009 14:56 GMT
#4
On April 30 2009 23:55 Khenra wrote:
Luxury < Jaedong
Flash > Hiya
HoeJJa > BackHo
Violet < Lomo

Ace:
Flash > Jaedong

3-2 KTF!

Flash > Jaedong hahahaah
Peace~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 30 2009 14:58 GMT
#5
Flash vs Jaedong:
Record: 6 wins - 10 losses (37.50%)

Oh shit, Flash is out on his map.

Luxury < Jaedong
Flash > Hiya
HoeJJa < BackHo
Violet < Lomo

Homo for Lomo, 3-1 Oz.
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 15:53:08
April 30 2009 15:42 GMT
#6
Flash, Hoejja easy wins. Violet over Lomo, even with the homo.

If it goes Ace then Oz has Jaedong to clean up on a fairly z favored map.

Another big if, if hyvaa's win over JD shook him up enough, I could see luxury, in his crazy style, winning the one match no one would expect him to win, which is zvz against JD.

Oz has their best players throwing down though, but I can't see Hiya beating Flash or Backho beating Hoejja. Oz's best chance seems like a 3-2.
Remember Violet.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 30 2009 15:47 GMT
#7
3-1 Oz or 3-0 Oz
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
April 30 2009 17:53 GMT
#8
On April 30 2009 22:36 Geo.Rion wrote:
OZ autovote... it started to cost me but w/e
same haha
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 30 2009 18:39 GMT
#9
This one is going to be tight...should come down to Flash vs. Jaedong in the ace.
✌
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
April 30 2009 18:50 GMT
#10
damnit

lucifer needs to get better
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 30 2009 19:53 GMT
#11
oz gonna get 3-0 again
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 30 2009 20:45 GMT
#12
oz wins
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-30 23:20:57
April 30 2009 23:20 GMT
#13
Fire (Z)Jaedong. I'm sure MustacheZerg could have at least beat (Z)hyvaa. I mean c'mon. They're eSTRO!! Were you all out drinking the night before?
CJ Entusman #24
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 30 2009 23:48 GMT
#14
No fOrGG wtf?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 30 2009 23:57 GMT
#15
On May 01 2009 00:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Flash, Hoejja easy wins. Violet over Lomo, even with the homo.

If it goes Ace then Oz has Jaedong to clean up on a fairly z favored map.

Another big if, if hyvaa's win over JD shook him up enough, I could see luxury, in his crazy style, winning the one match no one would expect him to win, which is zvz against JD.

Oz's best chance seems like a 3-2.


First, Flash vs. Hiya is not an easy call. Look at Flash's recent TvT record. This is the kind of call no one expects, not the Jaedong vs. Luxury. Everyone, that has good judgement, is contemplating what will happen in that ZvZ. BTW, Luxury has no crazy ZvZ style. ZvZ is just crazy.

Secondly, the Ace map is in no way Zerg favored. There has been only 8 games played on that map. That is not at all an indicator of balance. Maybe if it was 0-8, then, but otherwise, if just one game had gown the other way, guess what the percentages would be? 50% win rate TvZ.

Also, Lomo vs. Voilet is also a tough call. This is because Lomo has plenty experience, and 2 of the 3 of Violets PvT wins come from CuteAngel, (or Frozean) who has recently, just been playing awful.


CJ Entusman #24
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
May 01 2009 00:07 GMT
#16
On May 01 2009 08:48 writer22816 wrote:
No fOrGG wtf?


Seriously i want him to play too lol.
Firebathero is still the best!
extracheez
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia151 Posts
May 01 2009 01:38 GMT
#17
Luxury vs Jaedong and Flash vs Hiya?

Squee!
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
May 01 2009 05:50 GMT
#18
im betting against my better judgement. go oz!
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 01 2009 06:48 GMT
#19
Oz 3-2 u know who are the aces
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 01 2009 11:49 GMT
#20
This really could go either way. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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