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Spoiler* BaBy vs Modesty GOMTV

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EniraM(CA)
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada160 Posts
May 12 2009 14:24 GMT
#1
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For all you people who havent watched this series, do yourself a favor and do it now.
You might remember BaBy shaking up the BW world with his performance vs Jangbi in his previous series. He pulled off some impressive TvP skills that a lot of people are talking about. On Sunday he showed he is not a 1 trick pony with some intense TvZ play.
These games are high level, and really exciting.

BaBy showed us some extreme Wraith usage in game 2 of the series.
Getting the most kills with wraiths I have ever seen.

http://www.gomtv.net/videos/732

Here is a tally of the Wraith kills that were shown on screen:
39 Drones
9 Overlords
25 Mutalisks
1 Zergling
3 Hydralisks
2 Scourage
5 Lurkers

"The best TvZ we have seen yet" -Tasteless



(img credit: NeverGG I found it on goggle)
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
May 12 2009 14:27 GMT
#2
what i dont get is since baby did so much damage with his wraiths, how did 815 still manage to gather up a big army and win the game?
im gay
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 12 2009 14:27 GMT
#3
That's not 815, that's Modesty.
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
May 12 2009 14:29 GMT
#4
Yeah it wouldn't hurt if he actually won the game. Leta shows how scary terran air units can be better than anybody.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
May 12 2009 14:31 GMT
#5
Babys wraith micro was incredible. He just screwed up majorly when he pushed out too early and lost a few tanks / rines allowing 815 to do some devastating drops.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 12 2009 14:32 GMT
#6
He spent most of his money on wraiths so he didn't have much of a ground army to deal with the hydra/lurk once the zerg started pushing out. He also didn't have enough detection besides scan nor tanks which screwed him vs lurks. Baby trying to defend both his back nat and his front nat spread him too thin so he couldn't adequately defend attacks from either side.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 12 2009 14:35 GMT
#7
On May 12 2009 23:31 Bosu wrote:
Babys wraith micro was incredible. He just screwed up majorly when he pushed out too early and lost a few tanks / rines allowing 815 to do some devastating drops.



MODESTY


Insane wraiths..

but sad that he still lost..
hatred outlives the hateful
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 14:38:40
May 12 2009 14:38 GMT
#8
On May 12 2009 23:29 Magic84 wrote:
Yeah it wouldn't hurt if he actually won the game. Leta shows how scary terran air units can be better than anybody.



Because Baby moved half of his army out at one point and lost 3 tanks that he needed for a later push, not to mention those 3 tanks would have been able to help Baby defend Modesty's drop easily.

But since he lost them, Modesty's drop was successful and Baby lost that match.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 12 2009 14:41 GMT
#9
uhhhh modesty=/=815
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 12 2009 14:44 GMT
#10
amazing wraith micro, was very exciting to watch
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 12 2009 14:48 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler +
Even though baby did a phenomenal job of dishing out pain with his wraiths, modesty had 3 base at that time and could recover easily from babys harassment, plus baby does not even have a decent ground forces and plus plus, his wraith play delayed his first expo time significantly...
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
May 12 2009 14:49 GMT
#12
that series vs. jangbi was epic. I was watching that series at my work with no sounds but it still thrilled the shit out of me. I'm going to watch this one now. Thanks.
Boxer is the truth.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 12 2009 14:52 GMT
#13
I was shocked. I was like WTF BABY RAPED 815? Although his record kinda wont prove it but 815 is actually a decent player, he is just too greedy sometimes. Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.
Woo Jung Ho
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 12 2009 14:57 GMT
#14
baby was greedy that is what happened
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
May 12 2009 14:59 GMT
#15
On May 12 2009 23:52 iLoveKTF wrote:
Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.


And here's the first reason why I was not that impressed by the wraith micro. Modesty defendet poorly.
The second that it obviously didn't help baby to win the game.
No way this was the best TvZ we've ever seen.
Don't mess the fess!
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
May 12 2009 15:01 GMT
#16
Baby has Nada (most successful player of all time) and Mind (former MSL winner and one of the strongest players ever in terms of timing and strategy) on his team. He is definitely getting some of the best terran mentorship possible, excluding fantasy on sktt1. I remember when Baby beat Daezang on Monty Hall, even if that match didn't matter. I was his fan since then.
Sullifam
oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
May 12 2009 15:02 GMT
#17
I disagree with the claim that Baby had really perfect or S class play. He just made too many mistakes in this series to be considered to be considered among the best.

However, I am a huge fan of baby's gameplay after the jangbi series and this series. That wraith control was spectacular. All of his games have been entertaining to watch so far.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
May 12 2009 15:30 GMT
#18
whoa that was nice play but what a fail way to lose.
ya had ya shot kid!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 12 2009 15:34 GMT
#19
On May 12 2009 23:27 whatusername wrote:
what i dont get is since baby did so much damage with his wraiths, how did 815 still manage to gather up a big army and win the game?


You guys should see Forgg vs Jangbi, Forgg loses 100+ units to reavers and still wins haha.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 12 2009 15:39 GMT
#20
On May 12 2009 23:52 iLoveKTF wrote:
I was shocked. I was like WTF BABY RAPED 815? Although his record kinda wont prove it but 815 is actually a decent player, he is just too greedy sometimes. Modesty on the other hand, is just terrible.

MODESTY not 815
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