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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:25:43
October 24 2008 02:20 GMT
#1
When 24-year-old Andrew Vactor of Urbana, Ohio, United States was convicted of violating the city's noise ordinance, Judge Susan J. Fornof-Lippencott offered to reduce the normal fine of US$150 to $35 if he agreed to listen to 20 hours of classical music. Fifteen minutes into the sentence the rap music fan changed his mind and paid the full fine in order to end his probation. The sentence would have included selections from Ludwig van Beethoven, Frédéric Chopin, Johann Sebastian Bach, and Claude Debussy. Chief Probation Officer Glenda Runkle says the department keeps three CDs for this type of sentence.

Champaign County Municipal Court Judge Fornof-Lippencott told the Springfield News-Sun she often assigns creative sentencing options. "I think a lot of people don't like to be forced to listen to music. And I think sometimes the defendants ... are put in the position the general public is put in." She also selects episodes of Dr. Phil and The Oprah Winfrey Show that she considers relevant to other misdemeanor offenses and supplies copies to the probation department. "The idea, hopefully, is that it will inspire people not to come back for the same violation. It offers an opportunity for them to cut down on their fines and costs and at the same time broaden their horizons."

Although Judge Fornof-Lippencott hopes these sentences "might enlighten defendants", Vactor denied that musical taste played a role in his decision to pay the full fine. Vactor, a student at Urbana University, told reporters he needed to leave for basketball team practice. "I didn’t have the time to deal with that," he said. "I just decided to pay the fine."


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lol... interesting, new type of discipline. I dunno wtf i'd do if i got fined for playing SC, and they forced me to play 20 hours of wc3.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
October 24 2008 02:26 GMT
#2
where's the jail part o O;
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 24 2008 02:29 GMT
#3
O.o its a mental prison.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 24 2008 02:32 GMT
#4
What a lame excuse, the music's not that bad. It's quite good, like popcorn.
Jaedong
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 24 2008 02:32 GMT
#5
obviously hed be listening to classical music while IN jail.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 24 2008 02:36 GMT
#6
Hahaha "Fuck that, I'll pay the extra 115 dollars"
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 24 2008 02:38 GMT
#7
Well 20 hours of music is a lot I think, they might have made him sit in a room and do nothing to make sure that he listens to it.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
October 24 2008 02:39 GMT
#8
20 hours of classical? Man I would pay to listen! (wait, I probably have over 20 hours of classical sitting in a cd case somewhere)
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:41:18
October 24 2008 02:40 GMT
#9
On October 24 2008 11:38 XCetron wrote:
Well 20 hours of music is a lot I think, they might have made him sit in a room and do nothing to make sure that he listens to it.


lol i can picture him going insane holding his head with his hand pulling his hair out and then finally breaking and goes out to his car and drives back home and turns his rap back on.
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Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:41:54
October 24 2008 02:41 GMT
#10
Being an avid fan of classical music and a somewhat proficient violinist, I really wouldn't mind listening to it except for that 20 hour thing. There's ABSOLUTELY no way I can listen to ANY type of music in the car for over two hours. It just gets to me and starts sounding like slowly churned shit (no matter what piece it is) after that 2 hour mark or so. I don't know. Everything starts sounding like the same piece by then.
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Manowarrior
Profile Joined May 2007
United States159 Posts
October 24 2008 02:46 GMT
#11
I listen to classical 12 hrs a day on my offdays sometimes.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
October 24 2008 02:47 GMT
#12
For the 20 hours he saved he could have worked a minimal wage job (6.55 in america,and perhaps still listen to his rap music) and he would actually end up making $16 by paying the extra $115. Or, he could have just worked 17.55 hours and make the 115.

I'm all for creative sentencing, but paying the fine was just the better option.

20+(If he doesn't want to do all 20 straight) hours in jail forced to do nothing but listen to music he doesn't like for $115 dollars which he could make back in less than 20 hours. (Although would be a bit more because he wouldn't work it all in one shift so there would be traveling time. (where he could listen to rap.)

Of course this changes if he could leave the jail after $35 and come back at his leisure (within reason) to listen to classical then its much better. But the way I understood the punishment it was a pointless alternative that would never be chosen.
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
October 24 2008 02:49 GMT
#13
Bach? Beethoven? Chopin? Debussy? These guys are amazing! okay, so i'm not as big a fan of bach, but beethoven is absolutely amazing. maybe they should have thrown in some holst or some mahler.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 24 2008 02:53 GMT
#14
On October 24 2008 11:47 randombum wrote:
For the 20 hours he saved he could have worked a minimal wage job (6.55 in america,and perhaps still listen to his rap music) and he would actually end up making $16 by paying the extra $115. Or, he could have just worked 17.55 hours and make the 115.

I'm all for creative sentencing, but paying the fine was just the better option.

20+(If he doesn't want to do all 20 straight) hours in jail forced to do nothing but listen to music he doesn't like for $115 dollars which he could make back in less than 20 hours. (Although would be a bit more because he wouldn't work it all in one shift so there would be traveling time. (where he could listen to rap.)

Of course this changes if he could leave the jail after $35 and come back at his leisure (within reason) to listen to classical then its much better. But the way I understood the punishment it was a pointless alternative that would never be chosen.


Yeah, but he went to basketball practice. It's reality here, not theorycrafting.
Jaedong
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:58:34
October 24 2008 02:58 GMT
#15
On October 24 2008 11:49 vAltyR wrote:
Bach? Beethoven? Chopin? Debussy? These guys are amazing! okay, so i'm not as big a fan of bach, but beethoven is absolutely amazing. maybe they should have thrown in some holst or some mahler.

I personally don't like Bach either (Chopin, Holst, Prokofiev, Sibelius <3).

But honestly, I doubt anyone in here could sit in a cell and do nothing but listen to classical music for 20 hours straight without getting frustrated or mad. The sheer amount of time involved is overwhelming x.x
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 24 2008 02:59 GMT
#16
this is like forcing someone to eat 10 pounds of ice cream, aka it's actually torture.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 24 2008 03:00 GMT
#17
gg

I like classical but when you're a rap fan and gets this sudden change, he might go insane. HAha.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2008 03:10 GMT
#18
He was probably pissed because there was no Mozart.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 24 2008 03:15 GMT
#19
On October 24 2008 11:29 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
O.o its a mental prison.

This.

It sounds creative, but really the judge should not be doing this.
She also selects episodes of Dr. Phil and The Oprah Winfrey Show that she considers relevant to other misdemeanor offenses and supplies copies to the probation department.


Seriously, it's out of line.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 24 2008 03:16 GMT
#20
Uhh isnt this under the unusual or cruel part ?
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