• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:52
CET 07:52
KST 15:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18
Tourneys
$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1563 users

Rap music fan sentenced to classical music

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:25:43
October 24 2008 02:20 GMT
#1
When 24-year-old Andrew Vactor of Urbana, Ohio, United States was convicted of violating the city's noise ordinance, Judge Susan J. Fornof-Lippencott offered to reduce the normal fine of US$150 to $35 if he agreed to listen to 20 hours of classical music. Fifteen minutes into the sentence the rap music fan changed his mind and paid the full fine in order to end his probation. The sentence would have included selections from Ludwig van Beethoven, Frédéric Chopin, Johann Sebastian Bach, and Claude Debussy. Chief Probation Officer Glenda Runkle says the department keeps three CDs for this type of sentence.

Champaign County Municipal Court Judge Fornof-Lippencott told the Springfield News-Sun she often assigns creative sentencing options. "I think a lot of people don't like to be forced to listen to music. And I think sometimes the defendants ... are put in the position the general public is put in." She also selects episodes of Dr. Phil and The Oprah Winfrey Show that she considers relevant to other misdemeanor offenses and supplies copies to the probation department. "The idea, hopefully, is that it will inspire people not to come back for the same violation. It offers an opportunity for them to cut down on their fines and costs and at the same time broaden their horizons."

Although Judge Fornof-Lippencott hopes these sentences "might enlighten defendants", Vactor denied that musical taste played a role in his decision to pay the full fine. Vactor, a student at Urbana University, told reporters he needed to leave for basketball team practice. "I didn’t have the time to deal with that," he said. "I just decided to pay the fine."


source:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.bizarrenews.org/content/view/61/1/


lol... interesting, new type of discipline. I dunno wtf i'd do if i got fined for playing SC, and they forced me to play 20 hours of wc3.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
October 24 2008 02:26 GMT
#2
where's the jail part o O;
Hates Fun🤔
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 24 2008 02:29 GMT
#3
O.o its a mental prison.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 24 2008 02:32 GMT
#4
What a lame excuse, the music's not that bad. It's quite good, like popcorn.
Jaedong
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 24 2008 02:32 GMT
#5
obviously hed be listening to classical music while IN jail.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 24 2008 02:36 GMT
#6
Hahaha "Fuck that, I'll pay the extra 115 dollars"
returns upon momentous occasions.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 24 2008 02:38 GMT
#7
Well 20 hours of music is a lot I think, they might have made him sit in a room and do nothing to make sure that he listens to it.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
October 24 2008 02:39 GMT
#8
20 hours of classical? Man I would pay to listen! (wait, I probably have over 20 hours of classical sitting in a cd case somewhere)
♞
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:41:18
October 24 2008 02:40 GMT
#9
On October 24 2008 11:38 XCetron wrote:
Well 20 hours of music is a lot I think, they might have made him sit in a room and do nothing to make sure that he listens to it.


lol i can picture him going insane holding his head with his hand pulling his hair out and then finally breaking and goes out to his car and drives back home and turns his rap back on.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:41:54
October 24 2008 02:41 GMT
#10
Being an avid fan of classical music and a somewhat proficient violinist, I really wouldn't mind listening to it except for that 20 hour thing. There's ABSOLUTELY no way I can listen to ANY type of music in the car for over two hours. It just gets to me and starts sounding like slowly churned shit (no matter what piece it is) after that 2 hour mark or so. I don't know. Everything starts sounding like the same piece by then.
Running is the essence of battle
Manowarrior
Profile Joined May 2007
United States159 Posts
October 24 2008 02:46 GMT
#11
I listen to classical 12 hrs a day on my offdays sometimes.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
October 24 2008 02:47 GMT
#12
For the 20 hours he saved he could have worked a minimal wage job (6.55 in america,and perhaps still listen to his rap music) and he would actually end up making $16 by paying the extra $115. Or, he could have just worked 17.55 hours and make the 115.

I'm all for creative sentencing, but paying the fine was just the better option.

20+(If he doesn't want to do all 20 straight) hours in jail forced to do nothing but listen to music he doesn't like for $115 dollars which he could make back in less than 20 hours. (Although would be a bit more because he wouldn't work it all in one shift so there would be traveling time. (where he could listen to rap.)

Of course this changes if he could leave the jail after $35 and come back at his leisure (within reason) to listen to classical then its much better. But the way I understood the punishment it was a pointless alternative that would never be chosen.
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
October 24 2008 02:49 GMT
#13
Bach? Beethoven? Chopin? Debussy? These guys are amazing! okay, so i'm not as big a fan of bach, but beethoven is absolutely amazing. maybe they should have thrown in some holst or some mahler.
내 호버크라프트는 장어로 가득 차 있어요
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 24 2008 02:53 GMT
#14
On October 24 2008 11:47 randombum wrote:
For the 20 hours he saved he could have worked a minimal wage job (6.55 in america,and perhaps still listen to his rap music) and he would actually end up making $16 by paying the extra $115. Or, he could have just worked 17.55 hours and make the 115.

I'm all for creative sentencing, but paying the fine was just the better option.

20+(If he doesn't want to do all 20 straight) hours in jail forced to do nothing but listen to music he doesn't like for $115 dollars which he could make back in less than 20 hours. (Although would be a bit more because he wouldn't work it all in one shift so there would be traveling time. (where he could listen to rap.)

Of course this changes if he could leave the jail after $35 and come back at his leisure (within reason) to listen to classical then its much better. But the way I understood the punishment it was a pointless alternative that would never be chosen.


Yeah, but he went to basketball practice. It's reality here, not theorycrafting.
Jaedong
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 02:58:34
October 24 2008 02:58 GMT
#15
On October 24 2008 11:49 vAltyR wrote:
Bach? Beethoven? Chopin? Debussy? These guys are amazing! okay, so i'm not as big a fan of bach, but beethoven is absolutely amazing. maybe they should have thrown in some holst or some mahler.

I personally don't like Bach either (Chopin, Holst, Prokofiev, Sibelius <3).

But honestly, I doubt anyone in here could sit in a cell and do nothing but listen to classical music for 20 hours straight without getting frustrated or mad. The sheer amount of time involved is overwhelming x.x
Running is the essence of battle
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 24 2008 02:59 GMT
#16
this is like forcing someone to eat 10 pounds of ice cream, aka it's actually torture.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 24 2008 03:00 GMT
#17
gg

I like classical but when you're a rap fan and gets this sudden change, he might go insane. HAha.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 24 2008 03:10 GMT
#18
He was probably pissed because there was no Mozart.
^-^
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 24 2008 03:15 GMT
#19
On October 24 2008 11:29 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
O.o its a mental prison.

This.

It sounds creative, but really the judge should not be doing this.
She also selects episodes of Dr. Phil and The Oprah Winfrey Show that she considers relevant to other misdemeanor offenses and supplies copies to the probation department.


Seriously, it's out of line.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 24 2008 03:16 GMT
#20
Uhh isnt this under the unusual or cruel part ?
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14675
Mong 169
Nal_rA 82
Shuttle 81
ZergMaN 38
zelot 30
Larva 23
Noble 18
Bale 9
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm138
canceldota62
League of Legends
JimRising 732
C9.Mang0553
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox686
Mew2King24
Other Games
summit1g7474
WinterStarcraft387
Sick157
Livibee38
Liquid`Ken10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2986
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 119
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 43
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1475
• Lourlo1203
• Stunt575
• HappyZerGling128
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
5h 9m
PiGosaur Cup
18h 9m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 5h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
3 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
4 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-12
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.