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Proleague to start on April 12
Shinhan Bank Proleague 2008 will kick off on the 12th of April with the same 12 teams that participated last season. It seems like the issue with Samsung Khan has been resolved and the rumors of ACE disbanding have been proven false.
2008's season will work slightly different than previous seasons, as it will only last 6 months and have its Grand Final on the 2nd of August. So it's basically only half a season.
In September 2008 Proleague Season 08/09 will begin with some format changes. Until now the Proleague Seasons have been divided into a 1st half and 2nd half, both halves with playoffs and final. After that, the 1st half and 2nd half champion would battle it out once again in the ultimate Grand Final. The new system however, will consist of 4 rounds, meaning each team has to play all other teams 4 times (4x11matches = 44 matches in total for each team). After this is finished, six teams will qualify for the playoffs. The #1 ranked team will automatically qualify for the grand final. Team #3 will play against Team #6, Team #4 will play against Team #5. The winners of those matches will play each other. The winner of this match will then play Rank #2. And the winner of this match will then finally play against Rank #1 in the Grand Final.
I'm sorry, I guess this was very confusing, maybe someone can draw a tournament table or so :p
An official press conference will be held on the 10th of April.
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Fomos
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it's not confusing at all man!
but who cares, about the format as long as it's not completely retarded... i'm just soooo happy i will be able to see ACE team again!
hope this time they will win some more games :}}
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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WOOHOO im so excited for the new season!
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This means we will see 308 games at maximum.
308 until the playoffs of course..
With playoff / final (35)
it would be 343
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Belgium9947 Posts
If I counted correctly this should make for 220 games in 6 months. Thats alot.
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Finally. This will be excellent.
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On April 02 2008 21:42 RaGe wrote:
If I counted correctly this should make for 220 games in 6 months. Thats alot.
How can it be 220? :o
Every team has to face all others teams 4 times. So its 4*11 = 44.
44 Best of 7
44*7 (max games) = 308
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660 potential games in 4 months is ridiculous.
Edit: I'm talking about the upcoming season. The other season's something like...1320 potential games over 6 months.
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sorry to say, but the image provided by pachi is slightly off.
it should be
"Play Offs
Third Place vs Sixth Place
Fourth Place vs Fifth Place
Winner 3v6 vs Winner 4v5
Winner vs Second Place"
in the 2nd row of the 2nd coloumn.
At least if I understand the text correctly, y'know 
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In the regular season of everybody plays each other 4 times, it's 12 choose 2 games times 4:
12! / (10! * 2!) * 4 = 12 * 11 / 2 * 4 = 264 matches (bo5) played; 792-1320 games total
or, each team plays every other team, so each team (12 teams) plays 11 teams (every team but itself), 12 * 11 counts each matchup twice (team A vs. team G is the same match as team G vs. team A) so you divide by 2. And this happens 4 times.
I do suck hard at combinatorics though.
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On April 02 2008 21:38 pachi wrote:
my god pachi you're amazing, how do you come up with this stuff so fast?
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On April 02 2008 22:14 Myrmidon wrote:
In the regular season of everybody plays each other 4 times, it's 12 choose 2 games times 4:
12! / (10! * 2!) * 4 = 12 * 11 / 2 * 4 = 264 matches (bo5) played; 792-1320 games total
or, each team plays every other team, so each team (12 teams) plays 11 teams (every team but itself), 12 * 11 counts each matchup twice (team A vs. team G is the same match as team G vs. team A) so you divide by 2. And this happens 4 times.
I do suck hard at combinatorics though.
Its Best of 7!
Every team playes every other team:
12 Teams,
11 Matches for every team.
11 Best of 7 Matches mean:
11 * 7
This happens 4 times which means
11 * 7 * 4 = 308
+ Playoffs / Final
(11 * 7 * 4) + 35 = 343!
Edit: Why divide by 2? Its nonsense.. G vs A is the same as A vs G, but its still different matches.
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On April 02 2008 22:02 praetor.at wrote:sorry to say, but the image provided by pachi is slightly off. it should be "Play Offs Third Place vs Sixth Place Fourth Place vs Fifth Place Winner 3v6 vs Winner 4v5 Winner vs Second Place" in the 2nd row of the 2nd coloumn. At least if I understand the text correctly, y'know
this is correct
and another thing:
the 2008/2009 season (that starts in september) will have just as many league matches as the previous seasons. with the only difference that there will be playoffs and finals only one time. so in total there will be slightly less games compared to previous seasons.
the upcoming 2008 season (april - august) will have exactly half of the games (2 rounds + playoffs). the reason for this is that kespa from now on wants the leagues to start in fall, so they can have the grand final in summer at pusan beach. so the upcoming season is only half as long as usual.
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8748 Posts
On April 02 2008 22:18 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2008 22:14 Myrmidon wrote:
In the regular season of everybody plays each other 4 times, it's 12 choose 2 games times 4:
12! / (10! * 2!) * 4 = 12 * 11 / 2 * 4 = 264 matches (bo5) played; 792-1320 games total
or, each team plays every other team, so each team (12 teams) plays 11 teams (every team but itself), 12 * 11 counts each matchup twice (team A vs. team G is the same match as team G vs. team A) so you divide by 2. And this happens 4 times.
I do suck hard at combinatorics though. Its Best of 7! Every team playes every other team: 12 Teams, 11 Matches for every team. 11 Best of 7 Matches mean: 11 * 7 This happens 4 times which means 11 * 7 * 4 = 308 + Playoffs / Final (11 * 7 * 4) + 35 = 343! Edit: Why divide by 2? Its nonsense.. G vs A is the same as A vs G, but its still different matches.
How is this a response to him? You are seeking different answers.
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
Sometimes I wish Pachi would make a graphic of my life so that it's all simple and easy to understand
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Not dividing by 2 is the nonsense. Team1 plays versus Team2, that is 2 teams and only one game. If you don't divide by 2 you duplicate all matches.
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Calgary25980 Posts
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So will this be Boxer's last season on Ace?
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WOOHOO
Finally after all that time of waiting 
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