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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
October 28 2007 05:47 GMT
#1
Hello,

I know it is stating the obvious, but political threads on teamliquid usually suck hard, to the point of debasing the entire website.

Because of the nature of politics on the internet in general, these threads have a low chance of maintaining any degree of quality. So whenever someone starts trolling it really has a worse effect than normal. Same with any kind of crappy post, really.

It would be nice if there was something done about this. It's been going on for a few years. I think discussion was more decent when Mensrea among others were there to keep things on track.

Perhaps moderators could be more strict in these threads, temp banning anyone who deviates from TL's posting rules. Perhaps all political threads should simply be closed. Or a political forum could be made with political forum bans. Perhaps the wrongdoers will read my post here and change their ways.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
October 28 2007 06:09 GMT
#2
a separate forum would be nice, it sucks combining discussions on serious topics in the same forum as general youtube idiocy and what-not.

kind of like how they put israel down right in the middle of a bunch of arab states, it just won't jive.

it's far from the original purpose of this website however, so i'm thinking the staff will have little sympathy.
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
October 28 2007 06:13 GMT
#3
I thought that high quality of discussion was nearly equally desired in all forums of TL. :O
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 28 2007 14:30 GMT
#4
On October 28 2007 15:13 Servolisk wrote:
I thought that high quality of discussion was nearly equally desired in all forums of TL. :O


lol sc2 forum
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
October 28 2007 17:25 GMT
#5
Even the SC2 forum is better than General. The General forum's thread quality has been declining steadily for a long time now. I think I can sum up General in 6 topics:

- TV show discussion (fine)
- Youtube link (dumb, usually because there's no introduction behind it other than "watch this")
- Flash game (dumb, and usually all copycat games like Tower Defense v1,000,000)
- Poll (dumb, usually about drugs or sex)
- Rig this online poll (okay I guess, considering it's somewhat of a TL specialty, as long as it doesn't get too out of hand and the poll isn't too ridiculous like "Vote for my feet in the Myspace Best Feet Competition")
- Serious, high-quality discussion threads (good)

So as you can see, if you take out the serious discussion threads by creating a separate forum, General will devolve into a cesspool of retarded threads featuring links to Youtube polls about drugs and sex in TV shows that the OP wants you to rig that you have to play Flash games to get to. We can't have that.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 28 2007 17:41 GMT
#6
I think what we should have is stricter rules: I'll be honest, I sometimes post pointless replies, but I think in general, there should be a "no-post thread" list, etc. or tougher moderation, I hate to see general becoming what it is now.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
October 28 2007 17:42 GMT
#7
On October 29 2007 02:25 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Even the SC2 forum is better than General. The General forum's thread quality has been declining steadily for a long time now. I think I can sum up General in 6 topics:

- TV show discussion (fine)
- Youtube link (dumb, usually because there's no introduction behind it other than "watch this")
- Flash game (dumb, and usually all copycat games like Tower Defense v1,000,000)
- Poll (dumb, usually about drugs or sex)
- Rig this online poll (okay I guess, considering it's somewhat of a TL specialty, as long as it doesn't get too out of hand and the poll isn't too ridiculous like "Vote for my feet in the Myspace Best Feet Competition")
- Serious, high-quality discussion threads (good)

So as you can see, if you take out the serious discussion threads by creating a separate forum, General will devolve into a cesspool of retarded threads featuring links to Youtube polls about drugs and sex in TV shows that the OP wants you to rig that you have to play Flash games to get to. We can't have that.

I'm pretty sure the SC2 forum is the worst in terms of quality we have on this site.
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
October 28 2007 18:11 GMT
#8
There is absolutely no way the general forum, even at is worst, is worse than the SC2 forum. Not even close.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
October 28 2007 18:12 GMT
#9
Those threads explode pretty fast and I pretty much hate reading through 95% of those posts.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
October 28 2007 18:19 GMT
#10
make some good threads
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
October 29 2007 01:09 GMT
#11
Just ignore the threads or find some real political forum on the internet somewhere else.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 29 2007 01:29 GMT
#12
Religious threads are just as bad imo.
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
October 29 2007 01:51 GMT
#13
They're actually worse.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 29 2007 02:40 GMT
#14
General Forum has always been a marked step below everything else on this site, until SC2 forum just kinda blew it away and set all sorts of new records in terms of shitty posting.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 29 2007 03:20 GMT
#15
In all seriousness though, with out the looseness of General, the rest of the forums would become too overbearing.

Every good forum needs an id dump.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
October 29 2007 03:24 GMT
#16
i love religion/homosexual threads on all msg boards because usually around page 6-7 i try to throw in some completely fabricated and outlandish statement about richard dawkins admitting to homosexuality and how i dont believe that homosexuals actually exist. Can we just treat them as hw threads from now on because really there is no point to them.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-29 04:01:55
October 29 2007 04:01 GMT
#17
^i.e. trolling
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
October 29 2007 04:24 GMT
#18
On October 29 2007 11:40 GrandInquisitor wrote:
General Forum has always been a marked step below everything else on this site, until SC2 forum just kinda blew it away and set all sorts of new records in terms of shitty posting.


Are you forgetting General was home to the "$500,000,000.00 but you get kicked in the balls 3" thread?

Seriously though, I don't think the general forum is relatively bad. Most "general" type of forums on the internet are 1000x worse, if that is saying anything. Atleast afaik... I'm not aware of a lot of high quality discussion on the internet that isn't specifically for people who excel in some group, such as BW for TL.

Every once in a while there are threads that I like (right now the Beijing thread).
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 29 2007 04:53 GMT
#19
Oh come on the $500,000,000 thread was fun
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
October 29 2007 04:55 GMT
#20
yeah the $500 billion vs kick in the balls thread was fine

i think you're just being a bit too uptight
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