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WCS AM - Ro16 Group C Preview/B Recap (Season 2)

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WCS AM - Ro16 Group C Preview/B Recap (Season 2)

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August 7th, 2013 20:29 GMT
2013 WCS Europe

WCS America - Premier



Ro16: Group B Recap
aLive, TaeJa advance


Ro16: Group C Preview
Revival, Scarlett, Sage, MacSed


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Ro16: Group B Recap

TaeJa and aLive advance

by Waxangel
Detailed results from Live Report Thread by The_Templar
+ Show Spoiler [Click for detailed results] +
DeMusliM vs. aLive
(T)DeMusliM (T)aLive
(T)DeMusliM (T)aLive
(T)DeMusliM <> (T)aLive

aLive wins 2-0!

TaeJa vs. Minigun
(T)TaeJa (P)Minigun
(T)TaeJa (P)Minigun
(T)TaeJa <> (P)Minigun

TaeJa wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(T)aLive (T)TaeJa
(T)aLive (T)TaeJa
(T)aLive <> (T)TaeJa

TaeJa wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(T)DeMusliM (P)Minigun
(T)DeMusliM (P)Minigun
(T)DeMusliM <> (P)Minigun

Minigun wins 2-0!

Final Match
(T)aLive (P)Minigun
(T)aLive (P)Minigun
(T)aLive <> (P)Minigun

aLive wins 2-0!



TaeJa and aLive advance to WCS AM RO16!


In the group where hopes and reality were most at odds, reality took a brutally one-sided victory. The last remaining American (P)ROOT.Minigun and massive fan favorite (T)EG.DeMusliM were unable to take even a map off the Korean Terran duo of (T)Liquid`TaeJa and (T)EG.aLive, who went on to join EG-TL teammates Jaedong and Oz in the quarter-finals.

ASUS ROG Summer winner TaeJa came through in first place, defeating Minigun and aLive consecutively. There were some glimmers of hope for foreign fans as Minigun tried to use an unorthodox phoenix-colossus style against TaeJa, but he could not make the most of a few good situations and he tapped out 0 - 2. Despite claiming not to have had sufficient TvT practice due to a string of recent tourneys, TaeJa then went on to 2 - 0 aLive as well, showing that he had not lost his old mastery of the marine-tank style during the brief hellbat age.

America managed to recover a point of pride as Minigun managed to defeat the Brit Demuslim in the losers match, but aLive would prove to be too tough a nut crack in the final match. The EG Terran easily grabbed the final spot out of the group, unfazed by his opponent's stargate style.

Group C Preview: Scarlett, Revival, MacSed, Sage

Red and White, but no Blue

by DarkLordOlli

WCS NA continues past the halfway mark tonight after (T)TaeJa and (T)aLive cleared group B yesterday to continue the 100% success rate for EGTL Koreans in the Ro16 that (Z)Jaedong and (P)Oz started. The newly crowned IEM Shanghai champion (Z)EG.Revival is the last of them attempting to join his friends in the top 8 tonight. He faces (Z)Acer'Scarlett in his first series of the night while (P)ROOTSage and (P)iG.MacSed clash in a PvP.

Mirror Mirror on the Wall

The ZvZ between Scarlett and Revival kicks off an interesting and well rounded group C. (Z)EG.Revival has to be feeling good about his chances here, coming off a strong performance at IEM Shanghai where he finally managed to get over his live tournament jitters and collect his first big tournament victory. He'll look to WCS NA to continue living up to his nickname of "little dong," and he can't let this group get in his way. The fact that he only has to play against Zerg and Protoss should be a relief for Revival. It means that he gets to avoid his statistically weakest matchup ZvT and that he continues playing the ones he's had strong results in recently.

Revival has always had good but not dominant ZvZ, taking out European ZvZ master Snute 3-1 in the Ro8 last season on his way to the finals and edging out viOLet 2-1 in his Ro32 group to get to where he is now. As far as Scarlett goes, their last meeting during last season's Ro32 went 2-1 in favor of the EG Zerg. Revival currently has every reason to feel good but he can't let himself get overconfident after a big win as many a StarCraft 2 player has before.

This is it. North America is bringing out the big guns. As even a Minigun couldn't quite shoot down the Koreans swarming their borders, stealing their spots in the higher rounds and of course all their money, the proud region has to play its trump card. Accepted by most as the best North American SC2 player, the Canadian Queen of Blades, (Z)Acer.Scarlett, has already done her people proud, knocking out the defending champion (P)HerO in a nerve wrecking slugfest, sending him to Challenger League (where he'll let some frustration out by killing off other Canadians).

Scarlett has the potential to go toe to toe with the best players in the world as she's shown time and time again. Scarlett has been hanging around the very top of the "Best foreigners"-list for a long time now. Looking at that list, a lot of the other higher ups have already fallen in WCS Europe as (Z)Stephano's career has ended and (T)LucifroN, who many expecting to pick up the torch, was eliminated by (P)MVPfinale's miracle hold only a few minutes later. Scarlett could use this group to light a flare and remind the world that she's still in the running for the currently empty foreign throne.

Another mirror matchup will decide who gets to face Revival or Scarlett with a top 8 finish on the line. This one is a PvP featuring the Korean Protoss (P)ROOT.Sage and the Chinese veteran MacSed from Invictus Gaming. Under the ironwood rule of Catz, Sage seems to have found his rhythm and continues to do so, posting increasingly impressive results especially in ATC and the SC2L, taking out big names like HerO, (P)CranK, (T)Ryung and Lucifron with solid, well rounded play. His most recent offline experience didn't go as well though as Sage was eliminated from the Open Bracket by HerO and (T)Sound. The ROOToss made up for it by topping his WCS Ro32 group however. Sage has not attended any events since MLG and should have had time to prepare thoroughly at the ROOT Gaming House so he will definitely bring his best builds, strategies and hopefully overall shape in order to turn his online powers into offline results.

Finally, the last player in this group had a shaky start getting into this group. (P)iG.MacSed had a tough time getting out of his Ro32 group, trading blows and maps with the foreign duo (P)puCK and (Z)Snute until he eventually emerged victorious. But even then, the Chinese Protoss' participation was anything but secure as visa issues almost interfered again. In the end though both MacSed and his Chinese Protoss brother (P)Jim overcame all obstacles and successfully made it to the Ro16 without having to forfeit.

His recent PvP performances show that he's capable of competing with strong opponents like (P)JYP and Jim but also indicate that he's susceptible to players you wouldn't rate as highly as those two, such as puCK and (P)Bails. The Protoss mirror has picked up a lot of praise for having become a fast paced, intelligent and entertaining matchup. Sage looks to be the favorite in their encounter as he seems to be in better overall shape and also displayed promising PvP recently.

Predictions!

Revival looks to be a favorite in this group almost solely for his IEM Shanghai performance. Scarlett has recently expressed concerns about her ZvP which makes the opening match all the more important. If Scarlett falls down to the Losers' Bracket and potentially has to face two Protoss players, one of which (MacSed) she might not be very familiar with, chances are that the last American hope could be eliminated tonight. Scarlett is no ZvZ slouch however and despite being worried about Protoss, she's always done well against them. This one is especially tough to call as all four players could make it out if they put on a solid performance.

Revival > Scarlett
Sage > MacSed
Revival > Sage
Scarlett > MacSed
Sage > Scarlett

Revival and Sage advance!

Writers: DarkLordOlli and WaxAngel
Graphics: Pathy
Editor: Waxangel.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 07 2013 20:31 GMT
#2
Detailed results from Live Report Thread by The_Templar

I have finally realized my goal of having my name in a news article
I hope that Scarlett and MacSed manage to advance!
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TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 07 2013 20:33 GMT
#3
Picking Sage over Scarlett was so hard T_T
Scarlett fighting!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 20:44:27
August 07 2013 20:40 GMT
#4
repost it's already in the thread
damn you posted it before I fulfilled DLO's wishes. nvm. I'm the reposter. gg
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
August 07 2013 20:53 GMT
#5
Scarlett > Revival because I think he is overrated (sorry, I need to see more results)
MacSed > Sage because I think at least 2 games will be decided by DT's, and I flipped a coin
MacSed > Scarlett because gateway allins
Revival > Sage because he decides to play really well
Scarlett > Revival again because I believe
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GrimwulfSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada43 Posts
August 07 2013 20:54 GMT
#6
Gogo scarlett! Foreign torch held high.
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor." -Day9
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
August 07 2013 20:54 GMT
#7
Go go Scarlett!
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RsECommander
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands15 Posts
August 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#8
lol sage over macsed what a joke, u dont have knowledge of the game at all he 4-0 jyp en he already 2-0 sage last season so what are u even talking about your predictions are bullshit
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#9
I really hope that either Scarlett or Macsed can pass this group.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
August 07 2013 20:59 GMT
#10
scarlett and sage, love to see sage get a nice finish he deserves it !!
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 07 2013 21:00 GMT
#11
Scarlett Fighting~!
Someone call down the Thunder?
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
August 07 2013 21:01 GMT
#12
On August 08 2013 05:56 RsECommander wrote:
lol sage over macsed what a joke, u dont have knowledge of the game at all he 4-0 jyp en he already 2-0 sage last season so what are u even talking about your predictions are bullshit


Damn son, relax.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 00:29:19
August 07 2013 21:02 GMT
#13
i think the predictions today are 100% wrong. i would have macseed over sage in a pvp and scarlett over sage in a pvz. the matches we see obviously depend on some luck but im not confident the writers have this one correct :D

got the name wrong but the results right. macsed better than anyone gives credit for and scarlett too strong pvz.

RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
August 07 2013 21:10 GMT
#14
Such a cool group in my opinion, I truly love it when I have absolutely no idea who's gonna make it out of the group, all 4 of them could make it. Sage is fantastic and could definitely make it out, scarlet has shown us over and over again that she has what it takes to defeat the absolute best, Macsed is the best or 2nd best chinese player and revival is the reigning IEM champion, what more could we wish for, sick group. hype.
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justdmg
Profile Joined July 2010
United States34 Posts
August 07 2013 21:41 GMT
#15
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
Scarlett 61.30% 32.61% 28.69% 21.16% 17.54%
Revival 51.04% 25.57% 25.47% 24.86% 24.10%
Sage 49.84% 24.74% 25.10% 25.15% 25.01%
MacSed 37.82% 17.08% 20.74% 28.84% 33.35%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Very close group according to Aligulac predictions as well.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 07 2013 21:41 GMT
#16
scarlett revival !
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
August 07 2013 21:44 GMT
#17
On August 08 2013 05:53 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Scarlett > Revival because I think he is overrated (sorry, I need to see more results)
MacSed > Sage because I think at least 2 games will be decided by DT's, and I flipped a coin
MacSed > Scarlett because gateway allins
Revival > Sage because he decides to play really well
Scarlett > Revival again because I believe


these predictions are just so ridiculous o__________o it's like you were blindfolded in choosing.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 07 2013 21:48 GMT
#18
Thanks for the preview/recap!
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1799 Posts
August 07 2013 21:54 GMT
#19
Scarlett and MacSed or Revival for me. Sorry Sage =[
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 07 2013 22:06 GMT
#20
Little dong
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