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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 29 2013 09:21 GMT
#47
/in

This looks quite awesome.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 29 2013 13:12 GMT
#56
Would be cool if you guys don't spoil anything further than the series currently are. I am talking to the players because I trust them hosties.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 04 2013 17:47 GMT
#134
I think it is smart for me to start posting less and give the posts more value. I always read all posts multiple times. I should be ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 10:18 GMT
#533
If there is a 3P that needs to kill a house then he is just going to kill every Lord of a House each time. That is a really stupid wincon. I agree that there is no real reason to spam this thread with the members of each house as it will not help us at all to actually find scum. But all the current fear in this thread to share information is not helping anybody.

The houses are a fun extra feature but we should just scumhunt like always.


I am from House of Baratheon. The wish of the only true God is now in the hands of Chromatically. He is the Lord of Fire. Bow down to his will heathens!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#534
Basically it went down in our house like this.

S0lstice wanted to be Lord, DandelIon wanted to be Lord, Chromatically wanted to be Lord. I didn't because I wanted the best scumhunter to be Lord. S0lstice had my preference because he seemed like the most serious and experienced member. S0lstice and DI were discussing between themselves to see who would become Lord and then DI told me that S0ltice is scum twice.
Because they were fighting I presented myself to be Lord but in the end we went for Chroma.

As for scumreads:
DandelIon his main goal is to stir shit up. I don't know the reasons the elected lords gave in your houses but DI just told us we should vote him so he could use all our House power to kill Kush. The second reason he told me was to vote him because s0lstice was scum. And when I ran for Lord, DI told me he was going to push for my lynch today. I am interested how he will come into this thread and prove why S0lstice and I are scum.

Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#537
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 10:54 GMT
#538
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 10:58 GMT
#540
On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

Ok so by your logic DI is scum and we decided the lynchtarget for today?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 11:02 GMT
#543
On August 08 2013 19:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.

Lets see, I backed off my first scumread.
Then I called 1 scum obv town. And you? You decided that the best course of action was to make a joke out of it and make everyone think you are scum. Good play right?. Yeah.

Now in this different game, I dont have a clue why you should trust me on why the 3 other dudes in my house are town.
Not a damn clue.
I never said you should trust me. I never said anything about 'sheeping' me. Now get your cocky head out of your arse and explain further why dandel's play is scummy.


Who is the best lord in our house in your opinion?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 11:05 GMT
#544
On August 08 2013 19:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.


I think sharing townreads is kinda useless. It makes it easier for scum to choose a nk and giving townreads is easy for scum.
Treat it like a regular game with pms, scumhunt in the thread, scumhunt in pms or share reads with people you're fairly sure are town, only bring up pms in the thread if you got a really strong scumread on someone because of it.

Ok I agree.

But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 11:54 GMT
#549
On August 08 2013 20:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 20:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.


I think sharing townreads is kinda useless. It makes it easier for scum to choose a nk and giving townreads is easy for scum.
Treat it like a regular game with pms, scumhunt in the thread, scumhunt in pms or share reads with people you're fairly sure are town, only bring up pms in the thread if you got a really strong scumread on someone because of it.

Ok I agree.

But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all.

20 pages.

You cant find 1 scumread in 20 pages?

This game started on page 22? In the remaining 5 pages I see Yamato&Oats shitting up the thread. johnnywup&Oats being superdefenisve about their house without sharing any reads. Onegu seems to try to avert thread direction to House Baratheon , just like johnnywup tried to do so by using Robert Baratheon as 3P example. The Lannisters shared their reads and I did the same for my House.

That's everything that happened in 6 hours unless I missed something.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 12:20 GMT
#557
On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
Show nested quote +
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.

1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 12:55 GMT
#575
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.

Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.

Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
_________________________

@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 13:04 GMT
#585
On August 08 2013 21:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:
Dandel.
What I said was completely true.

Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus.

Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum
But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected.
_________________________

@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.

What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him?
What reasons have YOU given?

none, I say.
Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol.

He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer.

You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired.
I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 13:17 GMT
#598
On August 08 2013 22:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Especially since your reason for invalidating sol from being lord was me calling him scum without giving you a reason.
So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me?


This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly?

Dandel does not want to work with s0lstice
s0lstice does not want to work with DI
----> Koshi says he could be lord so they can both work with him. How is that not 100% logical? Funny thing is, a couple hours later for that exact same reason Chroma gets elected and DI is yelling at me.......

Also, I told DI from the start that I didn't want to vote him because I knew how he played in NWM, so DI his response to that is that he will be killing Kush no matter what.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#604
On August 08 2013 22:20 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:

_________________________

@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.

I dont understand why you would cry like a baby about that. Who cares how we figure out peoples alignment.

Your pettiness about this subject shows to me that you dont seem that interested in solving the game.

I just summarized what happened last 6 hours and gave my conclusion on that? What more can I do? I am actually trying to play serious and solve this game... This is me being 100% town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 13:27 GMT
#609
On August 08 2013 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:23 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 22:20 iamperfection wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote:

_________________________

@ all others
And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad.

I dont understand why you would cry like a baby about that. Who cares how we figure out peoples alignment.

Your pettiness about this subject shows to me that you dont seem that interested in solving the game.

I just summarized what happened last 6 hours and gave my conclusion on that? What more can I do? I am actually trying to play serious and solve this game... This is me being 100% town.

point me to where this happened.

First I tried to create a good atmosphere to find scum, I said that we should discuss the members of the houses instead of being afraid of it. Then I pointed out Oats shitting up this thread. Then I prevented you for framing me and me getting lynched. Everything is good for town. What have you done?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 13:47 GMT
#626
WHAT? CAN I POST MY OWN PMS BECAUSE DI IS JUST LYING 24/7 WTF
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 14:17 GMT
#648
-Dandel told me that s0lstice was either a retard or a scum in 1 message
-I replied to him that s0lstice was nice to me and that there was no reason to believe he was either retarded or scum. I also said that s0llstice actually was a good leader and unlike DI that just wanted to kill Kush "because"
-Which DI answered to "it's not because, it's win/win (It clearly was not a joke like he claims now.)

DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord.
______________________________________

1) says the best scumhunter should be lord (Which I thought was s0lstice, I only knew DI from NWM)
1.5) does not vote the best scumhunter, votes the last place he himself stated to share with chrom (this was after all pms)
2) says he and chrom are in similar positions/places (imo yes)
2.5) does not even think about electing chrom but wants himself only because "it's me lol", tries to threaten a no-lord voting because "i (=dandel) cant convince sol to vote with me anyways lololol", so he's basically tried to blackmail me into voting for him (I voted chrom in the end. I just wanted to run because out of 2 equals I should pick myself because chrom might be scum (even though Chrom looks just as good as s0lstice)
3) says he doesn't want to be lord (At first)
3.5) suddenly wants to be lord, utterly unable to explain why (I fucking explained it 10 times)
4) says he won't vote for me because I'm tunneling and won't vote solstice because "there is suspicion on him" (aforementioned oneliner without explanation lol)
4.5) doesn't really fit the numbering thing but this is basically a paradoxon because he's saying he won't listen to me, but won't vote the guy he wanted lord half the phase because I'm suspicious of him.
4.6) If he wasn't listening to me, he wouldn't have listened period, but he's ran straight out of excuses and can't find any.
4.6.1) he probably thought I wouldn't notice because I was tunneling sol apparantly
4.7) at that point i wasn't even tunneling sol, but he didn't care to check that.

Point 4 and below is indeed a bit bad play on my part. But in my gut I just knew that those 2 weren't going to work together and that I should be able to run for Lord.
________________________________________________________
Maybe I took n0 not serious enough for DI. But I had enough bullshit from this guy, he is lying 24/7 and any normal person would descredit him for being Lord after the PMs he sent me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 08 2013 14:17 GMT
#649
On August 08 2013 23:11 iamperfection wrote:
wtf is taking so long koshi?

I am working....
I had a good night of sleep.
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