• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:30
CEST 07:30
KST 14:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent9Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues21LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris75
StarCraft 2
General
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers? Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B [ASL20] Ro16 Group A Is there English video for group selection for ASL BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1238 users

Roulette Mini Mafia

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 01:32 GMT
#538
Hi Hi
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#550
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:28 GMT
#553
Also, I love scum slips, let push it!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:29 GMT
#554
On June 06 2013 11:27 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS


It's night
read the rest of the day before voting lol


I know it's night. Zeph soft defending WoS!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#560
On June 06 2013 11:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:29 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:27 Zephirdd wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS


It's night
read the rest of the day before voting lol


I know it's night. Zeph soft defending WoS!


tbh considering how the day went, I would defend him hard My early case was too early and wrong atm, and I dont think rayn was putting flame into a scum lynch like he did

can someone tell me what was Sentinel's slip?

((side note: sentinel does feel very inactive this game))
((other side note: I'm not sure if a scum would try to push his power role like he did))


I'm assuming its the fact that he called his vote a "bus", pre-flip.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 20:28 GMT
#605
Sentinel, if you're around could you provide a read on Ace?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 22:59 GMT
#610
I didn't have as much time as I had hoped to finish this post since I thought the deadline was an hour later, but I want to post it in case I get shot. My top two scum suspects are Ace and Sent currently. Everyone should role claim (I'm vanilla) Punish players if they offer bad alignment cop/medic/roleblocker selections.

Ace had a poor showing day one, not bringing anything of value to the table. He was late to the rayn lynch and even tried to spook people away from the lynch in the final hours. What concerns me the most is that Ace wasn't applying his own views of rayn, he is characterizing whether or not the lynch is legitimate based on the collective reasoning.

On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
highlighted in bold. I think it is the main reason people are voting rayne. It's a pretty solid line of reasoning.


With this post, Ace establishes that there is a legitimate reason to vote rayn. Later on, he establishes the case from fuba as the argument that convinced him that rayn is scum.

On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
If people are voting for him based on inactivity and not this case then yea we might be mislynching the guy.


On June 06 2013 07:11 Ace wrote:
For the remaining people voting for rayne do you believe he is really just inactive or just Scum?


On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.


After an analysis of the votes, however Ace decides that rayn is a poor lynch. Why do the statements that Ace described as a solid line of reasoning no longer apply? If people are voting rayn for the wrong reasons, shouldn't he be convincing people to vote rayn for the right reasons, instead of trying to redirect the lynch? Even if Ace concluded that rayn was an inactivity lynch, concluding that it was a mislynch is a jump that is never adequately explained. An inactivity lynch can be valid if there is supporting evidence that the player is scum in the limited amount of posts they have. Ace never discusses rayn's posts, which should be the deciding factor when determining if the inactivity lynch is a mafia lynch or mislynch.

From the previous game, where I was a scum buddy with rayn, I noticed that on day one, he put effort into scum to scum interaction, sending me a couple of softballs, that weren't really prompted. I wouldn't put much value into this observation, but I think his interaction with Ace and layabout most closely reflect this type of interaction.

On June 06 2013 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Whether or not I sheep rayne my vote will look scummy.

Going with my gut I guess.

##unvote
##vote: raynpelikoneet


Even if you ignore the "scum slip", the thing about this post that seems the most scummy to me is the fact that he is concerned about how he appears to others. A town player votes for the player they want to lynch as scum. A mafia player is more aware of how his vote will look to others. He also appears paranoid when he makes a post stating his concern by not being mentioned by rayn.

I think he overplays his certainty of the lynch in his explanation of a previous post. In his post, he describes it as a gut read and never really indicates that rayn is the player that we should be lynching, until the lynch is already decided. Post-flip he suddenly goes from a gut read to 100% certain.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:01 GMT
#612
Looks like a game of avoid the medic

Fun.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:08 GMT
#617
Target?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#620
You honestly aren't that bad are you Wave?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:12 GMT
#622
On June 07 2013 08:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Leaning towards sentinel being town and oats being scum, but my reads have been trash thus far, probably the worst ever.


1 player flipping scum equates to your worst ever reads?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 00:24 GMT
#655
#Vote Ace

bbl
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 01:37 GMT
#682
#Unvote
#Vote Oats


bbl
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:23 GMT
#697
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:24 GMT
#700
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#703
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#704
On June 07 2013 11:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


How bout you stay the hell in here for 10 minutes and write which one is scum then?


Nuh uh, I asked you first.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:28 GMT
#706
On June 07 2013 11:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?

I think Ace is lying as scum.
Why isnt that what you are thinking?


So why are you suggesting that we lynch prpl?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:32 GMT
#709
On June 07 2013 11:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?

I think Ace is lying as scum.
Why isnt that what you are thinking?


So why are you suggesting that we lynch prpl?

Assuming we dont lynch Ace


But didn't you just suggest we not lynch Ace?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:39 GMT
#712
On June 07 2013 08:55 Ace wrote:
Please, show me where this lack of production is?


lol, that's a silly statement.

On June 07 2013 08:55 Ace wrote:
then why wasn't I trying to turn the lynch around? For your point to be valid I would be putting a lot of effort into reversing his wagon wouldn't I?


So you are you saying you weren't trying to turn around a lynch that you believed to be a mislynch? Perhaps I'm having trouble getting things straight regarding whether or not you wanted to lynch rayn at the end of the cycle?

On June 07 2013 09:32 Ace wrote:
I'll be back after the game is over.


You're getting lynched if you afk for a second cycle. There is more to discuss past the cop check.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech82
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 605
PianO 139
Leta 98
sSak 49
Pusan 28
Bale 28
Noble 26
yabsab 21
Nal_rA 14
Icarus 10
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K494
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox356
Other Games
summit1g7990
tarik_tv5779
WinterStarcraft511
C9.Mang0468
Maynarde120
Tasteless99
trigger2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1063
BasetradeTV21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH469
• Sammyuel 6
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1261
• Lourlo1169
• Stunt449
Other Games
• Scarra883
• WagamamaTV34
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
6h 31m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
MaxPax vs Creator
TBD vs Classic
OSC
10h 31m
Moja vs Babymarine
Solar vs TBD
sOs vs goblin
Nice vs INexorable
sebesdes vs Iba
Nicoract vs TBD
NightMare vs TBD
OSC
18h 31m
ReBellioN vs PAPI
Spirit vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Shameless vs UedSoldier
Cham vs TBD
Harstem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
1d 7h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
3 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.