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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
May 29 2013 04:52 GMT
#70
/in
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 00:13 GMT
#129
So im down with the whole claim role thing. But if the scum can also get the roles it doesnt really lead us to any lynches.
But i guess the point of it would be transparency and all that jazz.

I hate playing with people i never played with before I cant rely on previous experiences Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D

Kinda all over the place but I always feel like day 1 is just typing shit until someone says something questionable. Then the Rage-arguments take place :D

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 00:14 GMT
#130
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

*pokes with stick*
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 02:59 GMT
#177
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

+ Show Spoiler +
*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure


Layabout its not even real pressure it seems pretty obvious to me that he was role playing. Havent you ever wanted to poke a drunk with a stick :D

On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

+ Show Spoiler +
*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure



I'm just trollin' around with the theme, I didn't actually drink today nor yesterday. What is your concern jaybrundage?

If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie


Also i plan to pressure who ever i want for any reason i want or for no reason at all.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 20:55 GMT
#258
On June 05 2013 02:25 s0Lstice wrote:
Stutters, can you answer your own question? You are voting him (Oats) currently so I assume that you have some reason to think he is more likely to be scum than just a townie not particularly giving a shit.

My thinking is I have no idea on his alignment just yet. Generally though being totally careless of the threads opinion of you is a townie trait, so he has that going for now.

I gotta say I agree with layabout on jaybrundage. His entry into the thread was filled with trepidation

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 09:13 jaybrundage wrote:
So im down with the whole claim role thing. But if the scum can also get the roles it doesnt really lead us to any lynches.
But i guess the point of it would be transparency and all that jazz.

I hate playing with people i never played with before I cant rely on previous experiences Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D

Kinda all over the place but I always feel like day 1 is just typing shit until someone says something questionable. Then the Rage-arguments take place :D



It looks to me like he is trying to defuse pressure on him before it even happens. 'I can't rely on previous experiences' is a prepackaged excuse to go light on scum hunting. 'I am occasionally lynch bate' is a prepackaged excuse for looking suspicious. It looks extremely self conscious. This point by layabout too is relevent.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

+ Show Spoiler +
*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure



I'm just trollin' around with the theme, I didn't actually drink today nor yesterday. What is your concern jaybrundage?

If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie


Meaningless pressure. It's a way of looking useful without actually being useful (shit-flinging at somebody who isn't going to be around to take umbrage). This is the direction I want to go. He looks the scummiest of anybody so far.

##vote jaybrundage



Maybe you missed the post where i said to go look at previous games. I said that im often lynch bait because its true. As town i often get mislynched. I prefer for people to know this and take at look at my play rather then straight up die as town for my play.

Me poking someone with a stick is not pressure. The fact that you have that in your case shows how weak it is. Besides the fact that your just piggy backing of someone elses post.

The fact that you think a joke post is the scummiest post as of yet just shows your lack of a real case.

#Vote S0lstice
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#275
On June 05 2013 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:55 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 05 2013 02:25 s0Lstice wrote:
Stutters, can you answer your own question? You are voting him (Oats) currently so I assume that you have some reason to think he is more likely to be scum than just a townie not particularly giving a shit.

My thinking is I have no idea on his alignment just yet. Generally though being totally careless of the threads opinion of you is a townie trait, so he has that going for now.

I gotta say I agree with layabout on jaybrundage. His entry into the thread was filled with trepidation

On June 04 2013 09:13 jaybrundage wrote:
So im down with the whole claim role thing. But if the scum can also get the roles it doesnt really lead us to any lynches.
But i guess the point of it would be transparency and all that jazz.

I hate playing with people i never played with before I cant rely on previous experiences Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D

Kinda all over the place but I always feel like day 1 is just typing shit until someone says something questionable. Then the Rage-arguments take place :D



It looks to me like he is trying to defuse pressure on him before it even happens. 'I can't rely on previous experiences' is a prepackaged excuse to go light on scum hunting. 'I am occasionally lynch bate' is a prepackaged excuse for looking suspicious. It looks extremely self conscious. This point by layabout too is relevent.

On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

+ Show Spoiler +
*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure



I'm just trollin' around with the theme, I didn't actually drink today nor yesterday. What is your concern jaybrundage?

If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie


Meaningless pressure. It's a way of looking useful without actually being useful (shit-flinging at somebody who isn't going to be around to take umbrage). This is the direction I want to go. He looks the scummiest of anybody so far.

##vote jaybrundage



Maybe you missed the post where i said to go look at previous games. I said that im often lynch bait because its true. As town i often get mislynched. I prefer for people to know this and take at look at my play rather then straight up die as town for my play.

Me poking someone with a stick is not pressure. The fact that you have that in your case shows how weak it is. Besides the fact that your just piggy backing of someone elses post.

The fact that you think a joke post is the scummiest post as of yet just shows your lack of a real case.

#Vote S0lstice

No one addresses my post which has said much of the same stuff Vivax did, surprise surprise.
AAAANNNNYYWAYYY

Why should we be giving you a free pass exactly if you have acknowledged that you're lynchbait? Why do you continue to play as such?

Thats like asking a player why he doesnt change his meta everygame. Easier said then done. I have improved winning a game here and there with town and not getting mislynched british mini mafia was an example of this but regardless its easy to fall into patterns. You dont have to give me a free pass. Your welcome to try to mislynch me on things i do consistently as town. My scum meta is pretty easy to figure out tho i just lurk.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 04 2013 22:32 GMT
#277
S0l parroting layabout which was a weak case to begin with. And his lack of content in his filter makes me think that he's just a scum trying to slide by. I haven't played with him before But regardless his case and his point about my one joke post being the scummiest thing yet seems hella weak coming from a townie.

I didn't like stutters case on prplhz as i thought prplhz's case on zep wasn't that bad.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 01:56 GMT
#302
On June 05 2013 09:31 Stutters695 wrote:
:popcorn:

Who wants to talk?

ill bite who do you think is the scummiest so far?

What do you think about a scum s0lstice.

Do you think Sentinels little vote. His lack of conviction bothers me.

On June 05 2013 09:49 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 07:32 jaybrundage wrote:
I didn't like stutters case on prplhz as i thought prplhz's case on zep wasn't that bad.

So are you thinking Zeph is scum since you somwhat like prplz case?

How about stutters? Do you think he's just mistaken or are you leaning scum on him?

Or like, do you have an opinion on anybody aside from the guy you're OMGUSing?


Zeph looks alright I like his last post some scum would just be happy that someone is sheeping them. But when Sentinel throws a vote on Wos. Zeph is more concerned with getting actually content from Sentinel rather then where his vote lies.

On stutters cases I think prphz has explained him self well. There was a bit of misunderstanding with the cases he choice. But explained it fine. I'm null on stutters atm.

I can and will OMGUS scum have a great attraction to trying to lynch me. So i will use it against them. Also remember Layabout was the first person to pressure me as scum. But I think the way S0lstice sheeped it and the way he went at makes him scummy.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 01:59 GMT
#304
On June 05 2013 10:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 10:55 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I don't have the time to do detailed analysis of everyone I want to look into right now but let's bounce some suspects.

First for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity.


I am waiting to see more from him but he's definitely on my radar, I am reading the thread just don't have much to contribute right now. These metagames and pointless accusations this early bore me.

Well how would you start day 1. I stuggle day one because there is no content to go off of. And the whole purpose is to create content.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#309
On June 05 2013 11:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Hit send before typing the second paragraph:

I would probably lynch him currently. He's not this inactive usually and it worries me. At this rate we're going to excuse half the thread for lurking and I'd rather not lynch into people who are here to read.

I guess that applies to everyone though, I fucking hate day 1

Well saying lets lynch a lurker usually isnt good play but the town atmosphere is pretty damn quiet. Yes some people have given excuses which prolly are true.

But regardless if we dont set a precedent of being an active town. Lurking is gonna kill us. And i would prefer to nail it in peoples heads that we can not and will not allow hardcore lurking. I would not be surprised at all if half if not more of the mafia are lurking atm.

Also do you wanna lynch S0lstice with meh?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 03:16 GMT
#313
On June 05 2013 11:51 Stutters695 wrote:
What are your thoughts on Fuba, too early to tell?

Looking over Fuba I actually really dont like it so far. First off he is barely posting. He comes in drops a single question.
Leaves comes back and goes back and forth over the point of how this game isnt that far with a normal set up.

While I agree with his point that this is not very far from a normal set up and we should just play normally and hunt scum the fact that he lingers over this the entire post and how we shouldn't worry about roles cause claims wont matter and blah blah blah. I agree with his post. Just the fact that that is the only content he has bugs me to death.

And after he goes over all of this with vayne. It doesnt even matter btw cause its a null tell. He says he doesn't find anyone scummy and peaces out.

I can definitely see him as scum and an alternative to the S0lstice lynch.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 19:03 GMT
#459
I find it interesting that when SlOosh put forth two candidates that he thought might be scum. Everyone went straight for rayn and Sentinel was barly even mentioned. Looking at his filter its pretty short. With some botchy reasoning (if any)

He backs off Wos and then goes for Oats. Completely ignoring the hotly controversial rayn. He doesnt do much. Why is everyone giving him a free pass?

Looking at rayn hes not doing much better activity wise. He says he is working 12 hour days it makes sense for his lack of activity but we have no way to know that for sure. I liked his point about Wos taking Vivax at face value and how him taking Vivax's word for it was scummy. But then later Wos said he was being sarcastic. If your being sarcastic just put a /sarcasm. It would save some time and make things clearer. Its easy to go back on something and say Oh i didnt mean that or oh i was being sarcastic.

I dont feel Wos is scummy atm he has been pretty active and while some things strike me as off. I dont like him as our lynch candidate today.

S0lstice hasn't posted at all since I have tried to get him lynched. Does anyone want to lynch him. He has keept of the radar pretty well?
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I think fuba would be my next bet. I see him finally going after vayne after all that bit about playing normally and what not. Vayne while not being a great contributor. Fuba has played wtih vayne a little bit as a scum suspect. But in the end decided fuck it lets just follow the flow and jumps on Rayn.

Note the reason he gives is because rayn has a town read on Vayne. So instead of lynching vayne who he has been playing with for a while. He just jumps on rayn because he is starting to roll as a wagon. He includes some reason as rayn seeing vayne as a town read for a wierd reason. If rayn just said he had a gut read on Vayne would that be better? Its a convoluted reason imo. I dont see the real reason for the switch from vayne to rayn.

I like Vayne's honestly with saying that he has a town read on rayn so he will not lynch him and is putting all his chips in one basket. I dont think mafia would go so hard against the current.

With all that being said. I think we should lynch Fuba today.

damn so many tabs open XD

Sorry for giant wall of txt ill put a picture in or something
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 19:05 GMT
#461
oh i forgot

##UnVote
##Vote FUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Also we need some people to get in here S0lstice, Ace come to mind maybe some more layabout
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#464
On June 06 2013 04:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Here's the thing Vayne.
You don't have to write long posts that are right or wrong, but you have to do something useful if you actually care about winning this game as town.

If you're scum then continue to play as you are, I guess.

Vivax, if you had to lynch someone other than Rayn, who would it be?
Sentinel?


I'm still waiting for Sentinel to answer a bunch of questions, but I don't see much reason to lynch him yet, I would like him to answer to SlOosh's case cause it raises some valid points.
If I had to lynch someone else, it would probably be Vayne, but he plays so carelessly that it gives me doubts.

Rayn is probably our best bet anyway.

Have you considered S0lstice or Fuba at all :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#475
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2013 04:35 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 04:03 jaybrundage wrote:
-snip-
Note the reason he gives is because rayn has a town read on Vayne. So instead of lynching vayne who he has been playing with for a while. He just jumps on rayn because he is starting to roll as a wagon. He includes some reason as rayn seeing vayne as a town read for a wierd reason. If rayn just said he had a gut read on Vayne would that be better? Its a convoluted reason imo. I dont see the real reason for the switch from vayne to rayn.
-snip-

That's not the reason I gave. Town reads on vayne are perfectly fine. I, myself, just gave a slight town read on him. The reason I gave for rayn being scum is that his town read on vayne is based entirely around vayne doing something that anyone, of any alignment, could do. It's something scum can do easily to make themselves look like town, while not actually contributing their own thoughts. It's something that I wouldn't expect a townie to be convinced by, but something that scum would be enticed by.

I didn't just jump on rayn because his wagon started. I wasn't convinced by the other cases. I was convinced by this one. If you don't like my reasoning, you're free to disagree with it.

As for the bolded, in all honesty it probably would be better. At least in the sense that I would not find it as scummy. I find "no definable reason" to be better than a scummy reason (at least until we see some flips).

And finally, there was no "switch" from vayne to rayn. You make it seem like one led to the other, when they're completely independent. If rayn had given that reason as a town read for *anyone* I would have had the same reaction.

Here's a question for you: Do you think that someone explaining your playstyle is indicative of their alignment?


@Fuba while obviously there are exceptions to every rule. But over the course of quite a few games I have found out that players who define my playstyle (as being lynchbait) and stop a lynch from going to me on day one.. Are usually town. Scum have no motive to do this they can just let the wagon roll.

While you may think this line of reasoning is scummy. about 80%-90% of the time when im town and someone else defends me and tells everyone that im lynch bait that person defending me is also town. So yes i do find it alignment indicative.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 20:26 GMT
#480
Im curious why is rayn getting so much votes. He just seemed to not be very active. I recall someone saying that he is usually more active is that the main reason people are going for him?

It just seems like everyone is consolidating but im not sure why on him :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 22:17 GMT
#499
Im around Im not on rayn but who would you guys wanna get oatsmaster? I havent read to much on him. As far as i can remember he was just tunneling ace. But I dont see him as very scummy. Going gong ho trying to lynch a vet doesnt seem like something scum would do.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 05 2013 23:21 GMT
#516
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 06 2013 00:49 GMT
#529
Wow i wasnt sure what to expect. But great stuff guys. Lets keep it up. Also in regards to roles what are we going to do when should we plan to claim. The following morning i assume?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
June 06 2013 02:02 GMT
#540
On June 06 2013 10:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Hi Hi

Yay someone that is active (I hope)

Ok now why shouldn't we kill you :3 /sarcasmish

In response to Zepp I had no idea what rayn would flip. I was leaning townie. But the main reason i stayed on fuba was because i think he was scummier :o

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