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[Code A] Foreigners, Flash, and Elephants.

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[Code A] Foreigners, Flash, and Elephants.

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September 24th, 2012 23:14 GMT
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  • Code A Ro48: Day 2 Preview

Code A Ro48: Day 2 Preview


By: Fionn

The Elephant Cup Continues

Going into the second night of the Code A Ro48, the present score in the ongoing Elephant Cup is 31 victories for the KeSPA faction to 28 for the rest of the world.* With a slew of Non-KeSPA vs. KeSPA matches on the slate tonight, either side could take a lead heading into the later rounds of Code A, Code S and OSL. Not only do we have Naniwa, the most successful foreigner in GSL history alongside Jinro, facing off against one of KeSPA's best rookies in mini, but we will see the GSL debut of Flash, going head-to-head against the GSL veteran Killer, trying to get his Korean career back on track - with a chance to make history on the side.

*Counting the major Korean tournaments including WCG Korea, WCS Korea, OSL, and GSL. Qualifiers and preliminaries excluded.

Premium Matches:

(Z)TSL_Shine vs.
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(T)STX_Last


In the first ESF vs. KeSPA match of the night, we get one of the TSL Zerg Four, Shine, facing Last, a quarter-finalist in the current OSL, who also faces Flash tomorrow night in the Auction OSL. Shine hasn't done so hot in televised TvZ matches, losing to Polt in last season's Code A Ro24 by a 1-2 score, barely missing out on advancing straight into Code S. He came back strong in the match-up in the Up/Down matches, beating Maru and aLive, but was unable to make the top two in his group.

Last is 4 - 0 currently in TvZ, having victories over Code A players Nestea, by.hero, and Effort, proving he is one of the stronger KeSPA Terrans. This is a toss-up like most non-big name KeSPA/ESF clashes, but Last's play so far since transitioning to SC2 has been stellar enough to give him the nod against what we've seen from Shine's ZvT so far.

Prediction: Last 2 - 1 Shine


(T)FnaticRCaLive vs.
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(Z)T8_by.hero


This match is pretty impossible to predict. aLive has been absolutely awful in TvZ lately, recently getting 5-0'ed by Hyun in the IPL Fight Club. However, you can't just write him off against by.hero, because the KeSPA player has had only two broadcast SC2 matches, losing both to Wooki and Last. by.hero, becoming the third Hero to appear in the GOM booth, will try to continue the success of CJ's Hero Liquid's Hero. Knowing how much KeSPA players have improved in the past two months, one might be tempted to pick by.hero over aLive's below average TvZ. However, aLive is a good enough player that he should be favored over a player who is an unknown.

Prediction: aLive 2 - 0 by.hero


(P)CreatorPrime vs. (T)MVPNoblesse

Creator is the current TSL and WCS Korea champion. On the other hand, people didn't remember Noblesse existed before reading this preview article. Noblesse did have a nice 2-0 victory over MMA in the recent MLG Fall online qualifiers, but that achievement was quickly diminished when dreamertt also 2-0'ed MMA in the same tournament. Out of all the players who didn't make Code S this season, Creator is the best of the bunch. Noblesse was a good player in the past, and who knows, he might still be good. But whatever the case, there is no reason to believe he won't get bopped by Creator.

Prediction: Creator 2 - 0 Noblesse


(T)NSH_jjakji vs.
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(P)Woongjin_sHy


This is it. HoSeo is now eliminated from GSTL, capturing the title of worst team in the league, and they have only one player left remaining in GSL. jjakji is on the ropes, at the edge of being knocked into Code B, and he has to go up against, the player with the best StarCraft 2 record in the hybrid Proleague in Woongjin Star's Shy. For this match-up's sake, Shy's record is little inflated by his 5-2 record in PvP, but he's 4 - 0 against Terran and Zerg opponents as well. He also has the honor of being the first player to beat a notable ESF player in SC2, defeating AcE in the Crossmatch series GOM put on a few months back.

jjakji might not be as strong as he used to in TvZ, but his TvP is still one of the best in the world. Shy is one of the toughest challenges he could have asked for in the first round, but HoSeo's hope should live on to see the second stage of Code A.

Prediction: jjakji 2 - 1 Shy


Regular Matches

(P)mouz.MaNa vs. (T)FXOasd

Mana got humbled with his first dip in the Code S pool, getting BM'ed by Taeja in his first match and then getting run over by MMA in his second. Still, he qualified through the Up/Downs, took a game off Taeja (albeit it was a 4 gate), and has been improving since his travels to Korea. He did decently in the MLG Fall online qualifiers, taking out Shine and Avenge, making it surprisingly far before eventually getting knocked out. He did have a lot of trouble against Zergs at WCS Europe, getting knocked out by Bly and SortOf, but that's a problem he can worry about another day.

asd, we really haven't seen in a while, and he's probably most known for being the guy who was in the most Code S seasons without anyone knowing he existed (a paradox, I know). He is a solid Terran that is neither amazing nor terrible, but can play pretty well when he's on. Mana, with his recent success and strength in PvT match-up, is the favorite going in, but never count asd and his knack for slipping into Code S without anyone noticing.

Prediction: Mana 2 - 1 asd


(T)MaruPrime vs.
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(Z)CJ_EffOrt


Maru is going to 2 rax, Effort. It's not a matter of if he is going to do it, it's just a matter of when. Maru is a lot like Life, but maybe a bit less refined. He loves to cheese and has no qualms about going for an all-in three straight games in a row, and he also has the talent to play a long game if needed. He might not be as strong as his young counterpart Life in the late-game, but his all-ins are just as deadly. Effort is one of fastest adapting transitioning KeSPA players, so he will be prepared for whatever Maru throws at him, but the Prime Prodigy is not going down to Code B without doing something cheesy to the former OSL champion.

Prediction: Effort 2 -1 Maru


(P)NaNiwa vs.
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(P)STX_Mini


If Naniwa loses: "He sucks! It's over, Naniwa is done. He has done terribly in foreign tournaments and now is out of GSL. I can't believe people actually thought he was good as Stephano."

If Naniwa wins: "Whatever, he won a PvP against a player no one has ever heard of. Just wait until he plays a Zerg or Terran and gets his ass kicked. He's so lucky that he got a coin flip in the first round!"

Just another day in the life of Naniwa.

Prediction: mini 2 - 1 Naniwa


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(T)KT_Flash vs. (P)MVPKiller


Flash is arguably the greatest e-sports player of all-time. He's wired differently than 99.9999% of the people in the world, and still young enough to have ten years of dominating Starcraft 2 if he wants to. Killer is a player who did awfully when he moved to Complexity, had the dishonor of being the only second player in history to go 0-5 in Up/Down matches, and moved to MVP for a chance to get his career back on track. If Killer wins, it would be the biggest blow to KeSPA since they moved to SC2, having their star lose to a guy who just got embarrassed in the Up/Downs. Flash went 3-0 in OSL and didn't drop a map in Code A qualifiers, so it should be an easy 2-0 for Flash, but if he loses...Nah, it can't happen, right?

Prediction: Flash 2 - 0 Killer





Writers: Fionn.
Graphics and Art: Meeko.
Editors: Waxangel.
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Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
September 24 2012 23:18 GMT
#2
Fionn wrote these predictions? EVERYONE ABANDON SHIP
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 24 2012 23:18 GMT
#3
Gogo Flash! You too Nani, don't let me down.
Refer to my post.
Kraidio
Profile Joined May 2011
China133 Posts
September 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#4
Really needs to be a elephant hunter graphic of something for the ESF players so they too have a cool thing next to their name
A man does what he must — in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and pressures — and that is the basis of all human morality.
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
September 24 2012 23:21 GMT
#5
Just another day in the life of Naniwa.
nice :D
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28091 Posts
September 24 2012 23:22 GMT
#6
I agree. No way Flash will lose this one. GO FLASH
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#7
Naniwa must win so he can smash Flash in the next round.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
September 24 2012 23:24 GMT
#8
Poor Naniwa gets so much Shit
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KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
September 24 2012 23:25 GMT
#9
Hoping to see Flash pull off an amazing win!
TheRageNerd
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia12 Posts
September 24 2012 23:36 GMT
#10
I'd just like to note that you wrote MaruPrime as a Zerg player. Might wanna correct that. (Z)MaruPrime vs.(Z)CJ_EffOrt
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 24 2012 23:36 GMT
#11
When did Maru switch to zerg?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33454 Posts
September 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#12
On September 25 2012 08:36 ragz_gt wrote:
When did Maru switch to zerg?


sorry, TLPD mistake with old BW pro who played zerg and had same name
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
September 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#13
I have a great idea for a new StarCraft reality show, it's called "Everybody Hates Johan".
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
September 24 2012 23:40 GMT
#14
Maru isn't Zerg. Mistake. Good and funny writeup though.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#15
Of course Flash can't lose. Never doubt Flash.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28091 Posts
September 24 2012 23:46 GMT
#16
On September 25 2012 08:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 08:36 ragz_gt wrote:
When did Maru switch to zerg?


sorry, TLPD mistake with old BW pro who played zerg and had same name

lol. I was like wtf as well.
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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
September 24 2012 23:48 GMT
#17
Probably the most stacked Code A day in GSL history??
Flash should win as TvP is his best matchup, it'll be a blow to everyone if he doesn't.

I disagree with alot of the predictions - Naniwa, Maru, asd and even possibly Shy to upset.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
September 24 2012 23:52 GMT
#18
I can see Nani and Asd pulling off the win. Other than that, I agree with the predictions.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 24 2012 23:55 GMT
#19
On September 25 2012 08:48 Mackus wrote:
Probably the most stacked Code A day in GSL history??
Flash should win as TvP is his best matchup, it'll be a blow to everyone if he doesn't.

I disagree with alot of the predictions - Naniwa, Maru, asd and even possibly Shy to upset.


Until YongHwa makes it...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 25 2012 00:00 GMT
#20
If Naniwa loses: "He sucks! It's over, Naniwa is done. He has done terribly in foreign tournaments and now is out of GSL. I can't believe people actually thought he was good as Stephano."

If Naniwa wins: "Whatever, he won a PvP against a player no one has ever heard of. Just wait until he plays a Zerg or Terran and gets his ass kicked. He's so lucky that he got a coin flip in the first round!"

Just another day in the life of Naniwa.


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