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BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 15:40:25
June 04 2011 01:45 GMT
#1
Thank you Primadog for this OP in its correct format. Everybody thank Primadog for his hard work and effort!



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http://www.nasl.tv

NASL Results and Standings
NASL VODs Thread


Saturday, May 21 12:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

+ Show Spoiler [Rebroadcast Schedule for Europe] +
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[image loading] (P)Axslav < Metalopolis > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Crevasse > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (Z)SLush

RESULTS AND RECOMMENDED GAMES

+ Show Spoiler +
RESULTS

Game 1

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Would you recommend Slush v Axlab game 1?

Yes (6)
 
75%

No (1)
 
13%

If you have time (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Slush v Axlab game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler +
Axslav > Slush


Game 2

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Would you Axlav vs Slush recommend game 2?

Yes (2)
 
67%

No (1)
 
33%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Would you Axlav vs Slush recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler +
Axslav > Slush


Game 3

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
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RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler +
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[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Metalopolis > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Crevasse > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa

WALKOVER

Naniwa 2-0 Moonglade.

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[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)dde

WALKOVER

DDE 2-0 Haypro

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[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)Strelok

RESULTS AND RECOMMENDED GAMES

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RESULTS

Game 1

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Would you recommend Strelok v Kawaii game 1?

N (4)
 
80%

Y (1)
 
20%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Strelok v Kawaii game 1?

(Vote): Y
(Vote): N
(Vote): If you have time



RESULTS
+ Show Spoiler +
Strelok > KawaiiRice


Game 2

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Would you recommend Strelok v Kawaii game 2?

Nay (3)
 
75%

Yay (1)
 
25%

If you have tay (0)
 
0%

4 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Strelok v Kawaii game 2?

(Vote): Yay
(Vote): Nay
(Vote): If you have tay



RESULTS
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Strelok > KawaiiRice


Game 3

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
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RESULTS
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[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)NaDa

RESULTS AND RECOMMENDED GAMES

These were spoiled on air (pre-recorded) literally one minute before the games started. Thanks NASL!

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RESULTS

Game 1

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Woudl you recommend Nada v Squirtle game 1?

Yes (2)
 
67%

If you have time (1)
 
33%

No (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Woudl you recommend Nada v Squirtle game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



RESULTS
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Squirtle > Nada


Game 2

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Woudl you recommend Nada v Squirtle game 2?

No (2)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Woudl you recommend Nada v Squirtle game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



RESULTS
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Squirtle < Nada


Game 3

RECOMMENDED
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Meh,

Game 3 just made me extremely, extremely sad (5)
 
71%

Pfft (2)
 
29%

Blah (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Meh,

(Vote): Blah
(Vote): Pfft
(Vote): Game 3 just made me extremely, extremely sad



RESULTS
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Squirtle > Nada



All Results
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(P)Axslav 2 > 0 (Z)SLush
(Z)mOOnGLaDe (W.O) 0 < 2 (P)NaNiwa
(Z)HayprO (W.O) 0 < 2 (T)dde
(T)KawaiiRice 0 < 2 (T)Strelok
(P)Squirtle 2 > 1 (T)NaDa


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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 04 2011 01:47 GMT
#2
Thanks.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:57:32
June 04 2011 01:50 GMT
#3
ops wrong thread.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
June 04 2011 01:52 GMT
#4
crazy game between slush n axlav
BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
June 04 2011 01:53 GMT
#5
Poll: Would you recommend Slush v Axlab game 1?

Yes (6)
 
75%

No (1)
 
13%

If you have time (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Slush v Axlab game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 01:57:05
June 04 2011 01:54 GMT
#6
will be the shortest NASL LR thread ever

Hey bactho, you even got Axslav name wrong.
PraetorianX
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden780 Posts
June 04 2011 01:58 GMT
#7
Can't go to sleep before I watch Naniwa play
The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter - Winston Churchill
BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
June 04 2011 01:59 GMT
#8
On June 04 2011 10:54 minhchi1211 wrote:
will be the shortest NASL LR thread ever

Hey bactho, you even got Axslav name wrong.


Hmm, how come? Is it because of MLG?

Yeah, I was in such a rush to post the poll...
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 02:01:21
June 04 2011 02:00 GMT
#9
How does zerg combat such a sick unit combination that involves high templar?
Pretty much everything zerg has, except the ultralisk, melt to storms, empty high templar morph into archons, which deal bonus damage to every zerg unit there is, and are strong even against ultralisks.

The only thing that comes to mind is the infestor, but then they get feedbacked and instantly die.
And even earlier when they were able to cast fungal with 11 broodlords support, they didnt really scratch the protoss army.

Slush had pretty much all combinations of units that come to mind to deal with this on the field.
Ultra/ling/infestor, roach/ling/broodlord/infestor/corruptor, ultra/broodlord/infestor/roach.
Pretty much everything. What is zerg supposed to do? All in before protoss reaches that point?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 03:29:46
June 04 2011 02:07 GMT
#10
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

http://www.nasl.tv

NASL Results and Standings
NASL VODs Thread


Saturday, May 21 12:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

+ Show Spoiler [Rebroadcast Schedule for Europe] +
[image loading]



[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] (T)Strelok < Metalopolis > [image loading] (Z)HayprO
[image loading] (T)Strelok < Crevasse > [image loading] (Z)HayprO
[image loading] (T)Strelok < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (Z)HayprO

[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Metalopolis > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Crevasse > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (Z)SLush


[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Metalopolis > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Crevasse > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa


[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)dde



[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)Strelok


[image loading][image loading][image loading]
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)NaDa

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +


[image loading] (T)Strelok < Metalopolis > [image loading] (Z)HayprO
[image loading] (T)Strelok < Crevasse > [image loading] (Z)HayprO
[image loading] (T)Strelok < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (Z)HayprO

[image loading] (P)Axslav < Metalopolis > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Crevasse > [image loading] (Z)SLush
[image loading] (P)Axslav < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (Z)SLush

[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Metalopolis > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Crevasse > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa
[image loading]
(Z)mOOnGLaDe < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (P)NaNiwa

[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)dde
[image loading] (Z)HayprO < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)dde

[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)Strelok
[image loading] (T)KawaiiRice < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)Strelok

[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Metalopolis > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Crevasse > [image loading] (T)NaDa
[image loading] (P)Squirtle < Typhon Peaks > [image loading] (T)NaDa

+ Show Spoiler [Recommended Game] +





Leaderboard
  1. (P)Squirtle 6-1 8pts
  2. (T)Strelok 5-1 4pts
  3. (P)NaNiwa 5-2 7pts
  4. (T)NaDa 5-2 5pts
  5. (T)dde 3-4 -3pts
  6. (P)Axslav 3 -1pts
  7. (Z)SLush 3-4 -4pts
  8. (T)KawaiiRice 2-5 -5pts
  9. (Z)mOOnGLaDe 2-5 -5pts
  10. (Z)HayprO 1-5 -6pts


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BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
June 04 2011 02:10 GMT
#11
On June 04 2011 11:07 Primadog wrote:
I'll pretty this up, give me ten minutes.


Oh, thanks - are you going to create a new thread? If so I'm happy for this one to close or update the OP to redirect to your thread - the only reason I created it was because nobody was doing it.

Poll: Would you Axlav vs Slush recommend game 2?

Yes (2)
 
67%

No (1)
 
33%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Would you Axlav vs Slush recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
June 04 2011 02:12 GMT
#12
On June 04 2011 11:00 gh0un wrote:
How does zerg combat such a sick unit combination that involves high templar?
Pretty much everything zerg has, except the ultralisk, melt to storms, empty high templar morph into archons, which deal bonus damage to every zerg unit there is, and are strong even against ultralisks.

The only thing that comes to mind is the infestor, but then they get feedbacked and instantly die.
And even earlier when they were able to cast fungal with 11 broodlords support, they didnt really scratch the protoss army.

Slush had pretty much all combinations of units that come to mind to deal with this on the field.
Ultra/ling/infestor, roach/ling/broodlord/infestor/corruptor, ultra/broodlord/infestor/roach.
Pretty much everything. What is zerg supposed to do? All in before protoss reaches that point?


Mass ultra would work well I think, but thats hard to get to after making all those broods..
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 04 2011 02:12 GMT
#13
Wow, did I read this right? 2 walkovers? t.t

I know its not NASLs fault but it sucks
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Phael
Profile Joined May 2010
United States281 Posts
June 04 2011 02:14 GMT
#14
On June 04 2011 11:00 gh0un wrote:
How does zerg combat such a sick unit combination that involves high templar?
Pretty much everything zerg has, except the ultralisk, melt to storms, empty high templar morph into archons, which deal bonus damage to every zerg unit there is, and are strong even against ultralisks.

The only thing that comes to mind is the infestor, but then they get feedbacked and instantly die.
And even earlier when they were able to cast fungal with 11 broodlords support, they didnt really scratch the protoss army.

Slush had pretty much all combinations of units that come to mind to deal with this on the field.
Ultra/ling/infestor, roach/ling/broodlord/infestor/corruptor, ultra/broodlord/infestor/roach.
Pretty much everything. What is zerg supposed to do? All in before protoss reaches that point?


The biggest issue was that Slush invested way too much of his army into his broodlords. Broodlords are like casters - you need perhaps a half dozen of them to wreak havoc. Because he put so much of his food into broodlords (and some more into corrupters that killed less than a quarter of their number in colossus), the zerg ground army was so weak against a colossus/immortal/templar/sentry combination.

If he instead got a few more ultralisks to absorb the hits, then massed roach behind it and rallied to reinforce, he would've mopped up the ground army and his remaining broodlords would've guaranteed an expansion kill every attack.

Roach is very strong even vs storm - if you burrow them they regenerate about as fast as they lose hp.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
June 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#15
On June 04 2011 11:12 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 11:00 gh0un wrote:
How does zerg combat such a sick unit combination that involves high templar?
Pretty much everything zerg has, except the ultralisk, melt to storms, empty high templar morph into archons, which deal bonus damage to every zerg unit there is, and are strong even against ultralisks.

The only thing that comes to mind is the infestor, but then they get feedbacked and instantly die.
And even earlier when they were able to cast fungal with 11 broodlords support, they didnt really scratch the protoss army.

Slush had pretty much all combinations of units that come to mind to deal with this on the field.
Ultra/ling/infestor, roach/ling/broodlord/infestor/corruptor, ultra/broodlord/infestor/roach.
Pretty much everything. What is zerg supposed to do? All in before protoss reaches that point?


Mass ultra would work well I think, but thats hard to get to after making all those broods..


But mass ultra only work against blink stalker based armies if they have infestors to hold them down, otherwise they dont get enough surface area as the stalkers always blink away.
High templars demolished those infestors whenever they dared to get close however...
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
June 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#16
Rice isn't more complex than humans genetically. All plants have larger genomes than people cause they can't move, they have to build in a lot of different genes for different situations.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
June 04 2011 02:16 GMT
#17
On June 04 2011 11:12 windsupernova wrote:
Wow, did I read this right? 2 walkovers? t.t

I know its not NASLs fault but it sucks


Indeed it does. I wish the players would respect this new huge awesome idea of a tournament more than what we see. It shows who the true professionals are.
BackHo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand400 Posts
June 04 2011 02:16 GMT
#18
On June 04 2011 11:12 windsupernova wrote:
Wow, did I read this right? 2 walkovers? t.t

I know its not NASLs fault but it sucks


Oh, which ones are the walkovers? Where can I find this information.
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
June 04 2011 02:17 GMT
#19
On June 04 2011 11:14 Phael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 11:00 gh0un wrote:
How does zerg combat such a sick unit combination that involves high templar?
Pretty much everything zerg has, except the ultralisk, melt to storms, empty high templar morph into archons, which deal bonus damage to every zerg unit there is, and are strong even against ultralisks.

The only thing that comes to mind is the infestor, but then they get feedbacked and instantly die.
And even earlier when they were able to cast fungal with 11 broodlords support, they didnt really scratch the protoss army.

Slush had pretty much all combinations of units that come to mind to deal with this on the field.
Ultra/ling/infestor, roach/ling/broodlord/infestor/corruptor, ultra/broodlord/infestor/roach.
Pretty much everything. What is zerg supposed to do? All in before protoss reaches that point?



Roach is very strong even vs storm - if you burrow them they regenerate about as fast as they lose hp.


They regenerate 40 over 4 seconds, while storm deals more than double that amount in the same time.
Burrowed roaches dont shoot and still get damaged, while a few more colossi take shots on them.
Burrowing them is a terrible idea, the regeneration mechanic isnt really viable for anything other than regenerating your roaches inbetween fights.

windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 04 2011 02:20 GMT
#20
On June 04 2011 11:16 BackHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 11:12 windsupernova wrote:
Wow, did I read this right? 2 walkovers? t.t

I know its not NASLs fault but it sucks


Oh, which ones are the walkovers? Where can I find this information.


DDE(and I think) Naniwa.

They showed the text on the stream and I think the OP will update when he cans.
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