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The Matrix (Spoiler Alert)

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NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:08 GMT
#1
Didn't think there was anyone who hadn't seen it yet. Sorry.

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So who doesn't like the fact that the machines won?
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 20:15:47
August 17 2009 20:14 GMT
#2
i don't know if you're referring to the whole trilogy or just the first movie so it put my response in spoiler (like anybody doesn't know already though)
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erm...the ending is a truce between the machines and the humans after seven previous successful attempts at eradicating Zion and then allowing the humans to repopulate etc etc. It's the first time in the movies' canon that the machines haven't been in complete control of the fate of the human race, so how is that a victory for them exactly? I mean, it's not a victory for mankind either, but it's basically a stalemate due to Neo's actions.


I guess what I'm saying is, please define how they "won" at the end.
fuck art its a competition if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough - Idra, on the "art" of RTS games.
skuj
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 20:17:50
August 17 2009 20:15 GMT
#3
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the machines won?
"never attack" -stephano
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:20 GMT
#4
On August 18 2009 05:14 Ghost151 wrote:
i don't know if you're referring to the whole trilogy or just the first movie so it put my response in spoiler (like anybody doesn't know already though)
+ Show Spoiler +

erm...the ending is a truce between the machines and the humans after seven previous successful attempts at eradicating Zion and then allowing the humans to repopulate etc etc. It's the first time in the movies' canon that the machines haven't been in complete control of the fate of the human race, so how is that a victory for them exactly? I mean, it's not a victory for mankind either, but it's basically a stalemate due to Neo's actions.


I guess what I'm saying is, please define how they "won" at the end.


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They killed The One, the Matrix continued on, Zion was allowed to survive to repeat the cycle again is what I saw.

And yeah, my thread got deleted cause I didn't spoiler it. :/
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 17 2009 20:39 GMT
#5
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The people were given a choice to leave the matrix if they wanted to, which was a first.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 17 2009 20:42 GMT
#6
wait is there a new matrix or are you talking about ooooooooooold stuff?
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-17 20:43:18
August 17 2009 20:43 GMT
#7
On August 18 2009 05:39 holy_war wrote:
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The people were given a choice to leave the matrix if they wanted to, which was a first.


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We weren't given that information. We only know that they had become efficient at getting rid of the anomaly.
NExUS1g
Profile Joined December 2007
United States254 Posts
August 17 2009 20:43 GMT
#8
On August 18 2009 05:42 niteReloaded wrote:
wait is there a new matrix or are you talking about ooooooooooold stuff?


We're talking about the trilogy.
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
August 17 2009 20:47 GMT
#9
We actually refer to it as a trilogy? I think of The Matrix as that one great movie and choose to believe the other two were never made. Can't believe we're still spoilering such an old movie.

And put more work into the OP - provide some ramifications for the debate, explain something ... one question is a disaster topic in the making.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
August 17 2009 20:48 GMT
#10
Should be in a blog.
MC Fighting!~
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 17 2009 20:48 GMT
#11
On August 18 2009 05:43 NExUS1g wrote:
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On August 18 2009 05:39 holy_war wrote:
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The people were given a choice to leave the matrix if they wanted to, which was a first.


+ Show Spoiler +
We weren't given that information. We only know that they had become efficient at getting rid of the anomaly.



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So the film ends with the Architect's grudging agreement that all minds that reject the Matrix will be freed. Zion has been saved, and will grow in size with the influx of freed minds.

from http://www.thematrix101.com/revolutions/meaning.php
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