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On September 21 2013 17:27 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 16:31 ObviousOne wrote:On September 21 2013 16:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Relevant: Pandain votes geript prior to posting in thread. Hello town VE! I don't understand what you are implying with 'hello town VE'. If you think it is town of VE to bring this to the thread; why are you giving me shit for making pandain observations? If you are being sarcastic; why do you think it is insignifcant that Pandain votes without thread presence? Explain.P.S. i was expecting over the past 25min or so, for you to be querying me. Considering you "read the game twice"; tried to cast me as a villain along with Koshi; and then made a hoo-haa about wanting to talk to me. Im off; but would like an answer to the above.
VE said he was going to bed.
Then he presumably couldn't sleep. [Scum sleep very well FYI]
QED he's town!
You picked on Pandain and then said goodbye.
Then you came back wondering why I was picking on you for what you deemed to be similar. [Also this hit and run tactic you're playing is disconcerting]
QED you're less town than VE!
I don't know if you're scum but I certainly don't have a town read on you based on what you've done so far. Your answer about it being a binary idea threw me off, I thought there would be something more to it, so I am not really satisfied with the answer. Then again, I didn't really expect an intricate answer either, so I'm still confused:
Why Pandain, what made Pandain special that you sought to look him up / keep tabs on him based on the pre-game? Did you just notice it to bring it up? Was there a motivation or other information you have that leads you to believe that Pandain is someone worth paying attention to right at the beginning of the game? We have more information now since some time has passed, so I'm mostly curious about what it was at that point in time that had you preoccupied with him. "It's a binary thing" is a non-answer to me.
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What time did this start for US players?
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11pm I think, EST, 8 west coast
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On September 21 2013 17:39 ObviousOne wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 17:27 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 16:31 ObviousOne wrote:On September 21 2013 16:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Relevant: Pandain votes geript prior to posting in thread. Hello town VE! I don't understand what you are implying with 'hello town VE'. If you think it is town of VE to bring this to the thread; why are you giving me shit for making pandain observations? If you are being sarcastic; why do you think it is insignifcant that Pandain votes without thread presence? Explain.P.S. i was expecting over the past 25min or so, for you to be querying me. Considering you "read the game twice"; tried to cast me as a villain along with Koshi; and then made a hoo-haa about wanting to talk to me. Im off; but would like an answer to the above. VE said he was going to bed. Then he presumably couldn't sleep. [Scum sleep very well FYI] QED he's town! You picked on Pandain and then said goodbye. Then you came back wondering why I was picking on you for what you deemed to be similar. [Also this hit and run tactic you're playing is disconcerting] QED you're less town than VE! I don't know if you're scum but I certainly don't have a town read on you based on what you've done so far. Your answer about it being a binary idea threw me off, I thought there would be something more to it, so I am not really satisfied with the answer. Then again, I didn't really expect an intricate answer either, so I'm still confused: Why Pandain, what made Pandain special that you sought to look him up / keep tabs on him based on the pre-game? Did you just notice it to bring it up?
Correct.
Was there a motivation or other information you have that leads you to believe that Pandain is someone worth paying attention to right at the beginning of the game? If I thought he was worth paying absolute attention to, I would have put a vote. It was an observation, to prompt him to contribute. It worked somewhat. He laid an unjustified vote.
We have more information now since some time has passed, so I'm mostly curious about what it was at that point in time that had you preoccupied with him. When I came back to the thread, and started skimming because everyone sounded like they were butthurt instead of hunting scum. Then I remembered Kush sayiung me/Pandain should be modkilled. Then I coudlnt recall pandain making a post.. which made me uneasy.
I can't speak for everyone; but I was getting pissed off waiting for MZ to start the game. All I wanted to do was make a fisrt post, and then proceed to lurk because it was saturday day, and I had shit to do. Instead I had to keep sitting at the comp for liek1 hr, pressing F5.. In my frustration i made that post "..."; considering pandain copied me, i figured he felt the same way as opposed to trolling.
Hence, to my surprise he was not quick at the bat to make a post; nor a post throughout the first couple hours.
Henceforth me calling him out.
"It's a binary thing" is a non-answer to me. Correct; but the original question was stupid and pointless. So you got a stupid and pointless answer.
Shit in, Shit out.
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On September 21 2013 11:03 Koshi wrote:
Who isn't town?
On September 21 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
Not me.
I would like to see more from Risen.
This is something I would have no qualms doing as scum.
My issue is after this post, he fucked off. Maybe its timezones, who knows?
Either way, I want to see more from this guy "who isn't town".
Risen; opinion on Koshi please.
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Time to stop taking my crazy pills and join in the fun.
I'm not familiar with Koshi's meta, I can't really say what the hell he's doing.
Kush is making more sense than I remember him ever making, I'll keep an eye on that.
Aaaaand that's all I got at this point.
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@VE
Sorry for the cop-out; but I will give you my thoughts on the Geript/DP situation having onyl re-read up to p28 (where Geript says, see you on Sunday. Bye).
(Copping out, cos im busy till voice mafia starts. and then.. its voice mafia lol. so wont be reading this).
Basically; im suspicious of Geript up to that point.
Reading the posts and giving him benefit of the doubt. He suspects DP is scum for not being assertive. OK fair enough perhaps.
My issue is how he pushes after that... instead of trying to firm up his read on DP and inquiring about him. Geript reads to be as emotionally unattached and making posts to bait DP into a fury.
I agree that two people fighting early on, are typically town; but usually ppl are trying to out-wit each other in the battle to declare the other, scum. I just don't get that feeling from Geript. He just feels removed. I am not a pro at blue-hunting, but I dont think a blue role would be this type of removed either, which leads to leaning scum.
I know Geript made a defense case later on, so once I have read the whole thread again, I will let you know if I feel strongly enough about this lean to lead with a vote.
P.S. I think its townie points that DP/VE didnt want to get into a shitfight. Even though he says he isn't "meta-able' I think that a scum DP would be more than happy to get into a shitfight this early on, and then rest of his laurels for a cycle or two.
Over n Out.
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On September 21 2013 19:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 17:39 ObviousOne wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 17:27 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 16:31 ObviousOne wrote:On September 21 2013 16:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Relevant: Pandain votes geript prior to posting in thread. Hello town VE! I don't understand what you are implying with 'hello town VE'. If you think it is town of VE to bring this to the thread; why are you giving me shit for making pandain observations? If you are being sarcastic; why do you think it is insignifcant that Pandain votes without thread presence? Explain.P.S. i was expecting over the past 25min or so, for you to be querying me. Considering you "read the game twice"; tried to cast me as a villain along with Koshi; and then made a hoo-haa about wanting to talk to me. Im off; but would like an answer to the above. VE said he was going to bed. Then he presumably couldn't sleep. [Scum sleep very well FYI] QED he's town! You picked on Pandain and then said goodbye. Then you came back wondering why I was picking on you for what you deemed to be similar. [Also this hit and run tactic you're playing is disconcerting] QED you're less town than VE! I don't know if you're scum but I certainly don't have a town read on you based on what you've done so far. Your answer about it being a binary idea threw me off, I thought there would be something more to it, so I am not really satisfied with the answer. Then again, I didn't really expect an intricate answer either, so I'm still confused: Why Pandain, what made Pandain special that you sought to look him up / keep tabs on him based on the pre-game? Did you just notice it to bring it up? Correct. Show nested quote +Was there a motivation or other information you have that leads you to believe that Pandain is someone worth paying attention to right at the beginning of the game? If I thought he was worth paying absolute attention to, I would have put a vote. It was an observation, to prompt him to contribute. It worked somewhat. He laid an unjustified vote. Show nested quote +We have more information now since some time has passed, so I'm mostly curious about what it was at that point in time that had you preoccupied with him. When I came back to the thread, and started skimming because everyone sounded like they were butthurt instead of hunting scum. Then I remembered Kush sayiung me/Pandain should be modkilled. Then I coudlnt recall pandain making a post.. which made me uneasy. I can't speak for everyone; but I was getting pissed off waiting for MZ to start the game. All I wanted to do was make a fisrt post, and then proceed to lurk because it was saturday day, and I had shit to do. Instead I had to keep sitting at the comp for liek1 hr, pressing F5.. In my frustration i made that post "..."; considering pandain copied me, i figured he felt the same way as opposed to trolling. Hence, to my surprise he was not quick at the bat to make a post; nor a post throughout the first couple hours. Henceforth me calling him out. Correct; but the original question was stupid and pointless. So you got a stupid and pointless answer. Shit in, Shit out.
If you had written it that way before I would have been less concerned. By concern I mean I saw it as potentially setting you up to look good by casting suspicion right from the get-go. In this scenario, in my mind and my first instinct, you are potentially both mafia. I am leaning closer to town on you after things went pear shaped and settled out. Hopefully we get some more posting today despite the weekend laziness that seems to be happening. Pre-game was pretty exciting comparatively.
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^ Doesn't make sense to me.
Potentially both mafia? I thought you were entertaining the notion Pandain was alignment-null only?
Weird post in general. Either way, not much more can be done till others chip in as they wake up.
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Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain
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@VE
K, read everything.
In short: + Show Spoiler [Re-Geript] +Geript feels distanced, fixated on a lone, early post; and his prods feel like he is more interested in stirring the pot.
HOWEVER, I am still not fully sold that is scum play, because I just don't see Geript as the type of scum player to want this much attention on himself (especially when he admitted he has finals coming up). Early polarizing situations usually contain two townies.
Now, for the VE addition: "he tried to get me to do his dirty work" (paraphrased obviously).
Now I have done a full re-read, I am not sold on this.
FACT: Geript pointed out the post he thought made DP scum before you said DP was scum. So when he made his comment but did not link you to it; I think it was just a townie assumed you were keeping track of every word that sprouts out of his mouth - hence would know the post he already alluded to.
So to be wishy-washy: Geript has some exhibited fundamentally poor play. I'm don't think this makes him confirmed scum. Im prob a slightly leaning scum read.
So who do I think needs to step up and has posted
From a re-read, theres a couple I really want to see more of:
- Risen // Pandain // Koshi // Kush
(As an aside, my vote on Kush was never policy. It was because he requested me to be modkilled... last time Kush tried to do that he was scum + I just dont see a town Kush giving a shit about rules like that)
Who will I vote for?
##Vote: WaveofShadow
When Geript/DP were going at it; Rayns post mimic'd my exact thoughts. "blah blah blah"
Wave I think tried to replicate that, but felt disgenuine to me.
He was present several times in the thread (esp. when called out) and even though he commented on Geript, it was by request. Even so, I just dont feel an urge from him to solve the game.
I actually dont have a problem he wants to lurk; day1 in a 30 player game is a shit fest... Its just, he is saying he wants to lurk; and then attempts to contribute, but actually says nothing.
I think thats one of the scummiest things that has happeend so far.
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It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.
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On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.
you do that.
btw. your actions are ironic.
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Koshi is here guys. Why is everybody so mad D:
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On September 21 2013 19:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Kush is making more sense than I remember him ever making, I'll keep an eye on that.
how am i making sense?? all i remember doing is calling getript town which im probably wrong about anyway
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I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH
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Also, we all better give Koshi some credit. Because it will be on Monday/Wednesday that he will be out of the country and very low on activity. Evul scummers will be able to lynch him if it doesn't require too much effort.
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On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH
Right...
So lets get you useful.
Is Geript scum?
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On September 21 2013 22:41 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 19:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Kush is making more sense than I remember him ever making, I'll keep an eye on that.
how am i making sense?? all i remember doing is calling getript town which im probably wrong about anyway
Why have you changed your mind?
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