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why have wraiths become such a rare sight in tvt - Page 3

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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-16 07:38:25
December 16 2003 07:38 GMT
#41
If u go mines to wraith and they exp its pointless, theyll contain you eventually in turn making the wraiths useless. Ud have to contain them before they contain u :O
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-17 03:06:43
December 16 2003 08:07 GMT
#42
Wraiths are VERY useful in some maps , almost all cliff maps . Good examples are JS(Boxer goes Wraiths there EVERY game) and Char.I know and practice several very strong uses of wraiths , but I won't discuss them any more cause its CLASSIFIED.^^

Edit:Im so stupid at times ^^.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 08:13 GMT
#43
you mean classified
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
December 16 2003 08:19 GMT
#44
don't know how it is in general
but if i start with wraiths i lose (against a player as good as me) so i don't do it
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 16 2003 08:58 GMT
#45
if you dont get cloaking asap you might die to a very fast 1-2marine 1-2 goliath 1 tank some scv attack, i've won quite a few games that way vs careless terrans
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 09:14 GMT
#46
Hmm when you have those units, I'm pretty certain a normal T would have a tank by then, or cloak. 1 tank + wraiths is enough to fend of those rines+gols.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
December 16 2003 09:26 GMT
#47
wraiths are a make it or break it depending on map style + spot dist + player strength in usage
gols are more all rounder/safer in general
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
December 16 2003 10:21 GMT
#48
Start out with 2 fac vults, kill scv if you can otherwise mass mine to stall him. SG when econ allows(place it were he dont see it), and exp ASAP, no more vults. What you see him doing(you have your rax there I hope) will determine next step.

1. He FE
Attack with 3-4 wraiths from 1 sg get some scv if you can, it will make him do some gols(stall him further). Expand more, scout drop and exes with your 3-4 wraiths that you didnt waste. Get up a nice tank army.
2. He goes drop.
Have scouts around map so ull know were hes gonna hit so you can shoot it down, also get cloak. Expand ,get more air and mass tanks.
3 He goes air, get scanner instead of cloak, u will have some more wraith if he make cloak.

Some strats of many in tvt which is the best mirror-mu i think.
Its all about the Benjamins
FinalJustice
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada71 Posts
December 16 2003 12:36 GMT
#49
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I havent had this much fun since last time i ate a lightbulb
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
December 16 2003 15:37 GMT
#50
its good
but its hard to micro
n00b looked that for them, it was not worthing
=]
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
December 16 2003 15:41 GMT
#51
On December 17 2003 00:37 Kacas wrote:
its good
but its hard to micro
n00b looked that for them, it was not worthing
=]


Say Wut? Got ure tongue stuck in the toaster?
Its all about the Benjamins
EvanSlayer
Profile Joined October 2002
Brazil228 Posts
December 16 2003 17:46 GMT
#52
On December 17 2003 00:41 Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2003 00:37 Kacas wrote:
its good
but its hard to micro
n00b looked that for them, it was not worthing
=]


Say Wut? Got ure tongue stuck in the toaster?


lol take it easy, our main language is portguese ;P
it all returns to nothing...and only truth can really set us free.
Moth
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden468 Posts
December 16 2003 17:52 GMT
#53
hehe, ye, but did you understand him? I understand portuguese better than I understand his phrases.

1.swedish 2.english 3.danish 4.norwegian 5.french 6.german

no i dont speak a word of portuguese
Its all about the Benjamins
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
December 16 2003 18:37 GMT
#54
You are quite a polyglot there, moth.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
December 16 2003 18:58 GMT
#55
Wraiths are excellent for cliff... you make almost impossible for the enemy to drop on your tanks so they MUST defend from low ground agains sieged tanks.

and even better are those strat switches like nada likes to do, to start pumping wraiths in the middle of the game.
Im back, in pog form!
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-17 00:01:42
December 16 2003 23:58 GMT
#56
1. Barrack scouting
2. Even without barrack scouting goliaths are too popular.

This, I think appliest mostly to non-gosu games.
-.-
EvanSlayer
Profile Joined October 2002
Brazil228 Posts
December 17 2003 06:16 GMT
#57
On December 17 2003 02:52 Moth wrote:
hehe, ye, but did you understand him? I understand portuguese better than I understand his phrases.

1.swedish 2.english 3.danish 4.norwegian 5.french 6.german

no i dont speak a word of portuguese


lol no i didnt understand him but Im just trying to back up a countrymate ;P

it all returns to nothing...and only truth can really set us free.
Petachu
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada354 Posts
December 17 2003 06:56 GMT
#58
i think he meant that "wraith are too hard to use for newbies, not worth it"

maybe.. i think...
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
December 17 2003 10:04 GMT
#59
haha thx evanslayer
well, i will try to write better
long time ago, all players were doing wraith coz gosu players do wraiths
but, the fact of us be such a n00b, make the wraith worthless
only now we are realizing that, and stop making wraith!!
got it?
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
Munkeys
Profile Joined May 2003
United States146 Posts
December 17 2003 21:53 GMT
#60
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