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TheBarrackS_ph
Profile Joined October 2003
Philippines23 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-16 01:28:35
December 15 2003 21:37 GMT
#21
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
December 15 2003 21:40 GMT
#22
If your smart and careful unless you are playing BoxeR Wraiths won't touch you.
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ZyPhReX
Profile Joined January 2003
1192 Posts
December 15 2003 21:43 GMT
#23
If 1 goliath owns 3 of your wraiths maybe you shouldn't be playing broodwar?
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pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
December 15 2003 21:44 GMT
#24
Wanna bet reaper? anytime we tvt i go tank/wraith k? we see who wins you can use BM turtle drop k
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Munkeys
Profile Joined May 2003
United States146 Posts
December 15 2003 22:13 GMT
#25
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 15 2003 22:23 GMT
#26
can't run from 8 range goliaths. you get raped on retreat everytime.
JAM THE FUCKER!
pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
December 15 2003 22:24 GMT
#27
On December 16 2003 07:13 Munkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2003 06:43 ZyPhReX wrote:
If 1 goliath owns 3 of your wraiths maybe you shouldn't be playing broodwar?


cloaked wraiths + scan dodging


...No offense or anything but your stupid he meant who would let 3 wraiths attack a goliath..
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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 01:36 GMT
#28
I like this strat:

Open with 2 fact vult (only mine) to contain him. After you've made around 4 vults, get 2 starports, and make a few wraith, get cc, and siege mode. Then just wraith/tankdrop his cliff. Pretty solid build, only 3 fact vult might be a problem -.-
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
December 16 2003 01:44 GMT
#29
or pretty much any build not invloving rines
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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 01:56 GMT
#30
... shows how much you know about bw -.-
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
FroZZoR
Profile Joined October 2002
China925 Posts
December 16 2003 01:59 GMT
#31
hovz is kinda right... that build is way too slow. I can only see it beating other really newbie vult users, but vultures suck on lt anyway
There can be only one
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 02:27 GMT
#32
Hmm... I've seen it work quite a lot though, usually you come off with a pretty quick expand, and you have production facilities fast too :o
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mind
Profile Joined May 2003
129 Posts
December 16 2003 02:29 GMT
#33
On December 16 2003 05:24 hasuwar wrote:
because they are so incredibly weak. 8 damage, slow ass rate of fire, they fly pretty slowly, and they have so few hitpoints. 1 goliath beats like 3 wraith and costs less

Not to mention, a turret will kill 20 of them :[


LOL
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cjh
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada857 Posts
December 16 2003 03:02 GMT
#34
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Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic959 Posts
December 16 2003 03:51 GMT
#35
now watching some TvT on MBC and both players go wriths T_T
never too old for starcraft :)
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
December 16 2003 05:16 GMT
#36
wraiths are good in far spots to set up a contain and discourage people from dropping. But if u get contained wraiths are useless
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iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
December 16 2003 05:45 GMT
#37
They can't contain if you mine their entrances first Oo; after that you can build wraith vs drop, and if they do some fast drop, you can mine around your minerals too :o
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
ZyMotiC
Profile Joined May 2003
103 Posts
December 16 2003 06:19 GMT
#38
wraiths are pretty good if you can surprise you oppo with it, for example if he mass tanks or mass drops
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EvanSlayer
Profile Joined October 2002
Brazil228 Posts
December 16 2003 07:07 GMT
#39
wraith can be use in so many ways since ppl get scan too late on tvt... u can counter a fast expo, contain him the same way u could do with mines ... all of this until he gets scan, and since one base scan is not 100% secure vs scan dogging u can really slow the way your enemy expo or push against u... if u can keep countering any drop or expo atempt it buys u enough time to early expo of your own and mass tk... Wraiths+tk is such a sexy army... much more than the usual goliath+tk+ship...
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likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
December 16 2003 07:07 GMT
#40
I don't know what are you talking about.
wraiths are not rare in pro's T vs T.
well I think newbies don't know how to use it ;p
oh, I recommand you last week KT league boxer vs marine.
Boxer has a gosu wraith control.
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