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Gman1216
Profile Joined May 2010
United States97 Posts
September 13 2010 02:33 GMT
#41
raelcun is right basics to the game will get farther than little gimmicks. fundamentals are important in every sport and game. Master the basics then you can teach other people these basics. simple. good luck.
SC2
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 13 2010 03:22 GMT
#42
On September 13 2010 10:59 flowandebb wrote:
First cast rendering. It shall be uploaded to youtube tonight.


How long does it take
Still not up yet.
FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
September 13 2010 03:22 GMT
#43
No problem with lower league players helping each other. I'm not an incredible guitarist, but I can still teach someone most of the chords and how to learn to play. I think it'll be fun even to watch some lower level games played -- not to be a jackass, but I get a kick out of seeing the mistakes others make and how it affects the game.
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 13 2010 04:19 GMT
#44
For some reason it takes a really long time to upload to youtube. That and fraps makes files 62 gbs.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
September 13 2010 04:34 GMT
#45
On September 13 2010 13:19 flowandebb wrote:
For some reason it takes a really long time to upload to youtube. That and fraps makes files 62 gbs.


you know your suppose to change the file size, programs like windows movie maker will do that for you. Depending on quality and how long you can get the file size pretty low. Trying to upload 62gbs to youtube is going to take you forever.
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 13 2010 05:42 GMT
#46
Lol. I do know that. The file I'm uploading is about 2mb but it still takes a while to compress and for some weird reason a couple hours to upload.
DuncanIdaho
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States465 Posts
September 13 2010 13:43 GMT
#47
F&E, or Hybridflow, I'd love to send you replays from my 3 games (win versus Hayako as Terran, and 2 losses vs Chris as Protoss), but I'm not sure how you would like me to go about doing this. Do you have an email I can send the replays to, by chance? Just let me know. Also, Karliath suggested on: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150563&currentpage=8#153

that I do a "season-style" tourney, and the problem is I'd need someone to cast it. I was thinking it might be fun to arrange for every game to be saved, and then casted via a replay rather than live, and if you're up to the challenge, that would be awesome. I could have everyone email their replays to me, and then I could forward them to you for after-the-fact casting coverage. I was thinking everyone could arrange a time each week to face off against their opponents, and send me the results and replays, and then between games, you could attempt to cast each set (every player in the tourney will likely have a Bo3 package against one opponent per week, and there will probably be 10-32 players, similar to rising cup, perhaps...)

Let me know what you think!

~DuncanIdaho
The spice must flow... Grammar lesson: "than" is used for quantity comparisons, "then" is used for chronological statements. The next forum user who says, "I'd do such and such, THAN I'd do such and such else," is gonna make me cry...
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 13 2010 13:49 GMT
#48
I would definitely be up for joining and casting. Also, coincidentally, Chris sent us one of your replays and it will be our first cast.

On that note we have run into a snag with youtube stopping all progress at random point ins the uploading of your videos. Very sorry.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
September 13 2010 13:58 GMT
#49
I love the fact you are trying to help people. This game is very intimidating to newer players but, when you look at the grand scope of things I am not sure how much you can offer. If you have studied the game you would be out of bronze and silver. That is why I think this might be misleading.

I do hope you guys attract a ton of new players. But make sure you ONLY give them the correct advice. Not something you *think* is right. Because you being in bronze league, one can only assume you are doing the *wrong* things.

Sorry if this came off as mean. Just want to make sure you're not corrupting our player base
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
September 13 2010 15:45 GMT
#50
On September 13 2010 08:16 flowandebb wrote:
By tricks, I do not by any means mean gimmicks. We would like to teach the basic fundamental skills. Keeping minerals low, Creating or learning a build order. How to scout. How to use hotkeys correctly. Very very simple, fundamental skills that every player needs to know.


This sounds like a great idea. It seemed dumb to me at first, but then I saw how you brought up hotkeys and I was reminded of a conversation I had with a friend who was just picking up the game. I just finished teaching him a basic build order for Terran, and I ask "how do you set up your control groups?". He responded "control groups?". I'll definitely send my newbie friends to your youtube channel, as long as you're teaching worthwhile skills and not void ray cheeses. Good luck!
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
September 13 2010 17:13 GMT
#51
I think it's good for new players to get advice that's relevant to them, as long as it's GOOD advice. If these guys pull it off, more power to them. I think that combining lower level replays with top loevel replays is going to be what are really useful to new players.
JrK
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
September 13 2010 17:24 GMT
#52
I think it's great, but I don't think you're evaluating this long term.

What happens when you get to plat/diamond? Are you going to explain every single detail ... every single match... every single cast... for the chance one new person came in?

I can see this being a nice series, but not a long term deal. There is only so much you can cover before you're saying the exact same things all of the other casters are saying.
JrKjrKJrk
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 13 2010 23:13 GMT
#53
Youtube problem still unsolved?
ScienceRob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
September 13 2010 23:24 GMT
#54
While Raelcun is right about this, I think its cute. Sort of like when little kids try to act like adults.I say let them be and enjoy the show.

Kids, after all, will be kids.
Carpe Diem
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 13 2010 23:44 GMT
#55
On September 14 2010 08:13 Karliath wrote:
Youtube problem still unsolved?


First upload is always a problem getting all the technology working but we have that. Its just youtube. So slow to upload.
Toxigen
Profile Joined July 2010
United States390 Posts
September 14 2010 00:03 GMT
#56
I'll maybe watch a few, but I just can't agree with this in principle.

If this were done by a high-level player but aimed to helping lower leagues by focusing on the basics, I could get behind it. Frankly, though, I feel like that's been done already by casters like HD and Husky.

The only reason why I can't support this is that while you're bound to get some good information out there to help noobs out, it's only natural that (as noobs yourself) you'll also be tossing out some misinformation. Noobs have a hard enough time improving as it is -- the last thing they need is bad advice from someone who sincerely doesn't even realize they're doing it.

This is like taking diet tips from a fat guy. If you're so smart, fat guy, why are you still so fat?
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#57
I would like some of the more veteran players to watch some of our casts, just to make sure that we know what we're talking about. Please let us know if we give a little misinformation and we'll be sure to correct it as soon as possible.
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 14 2010 00:39 GMT
#58
First part of first cast has been uploaded and second will soon follow i believe.
Rope
Profile Joined April 2010
Ireland45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 00:40:54
September 14 2010 00:40 GMT
#59
On September 14 2010 08:24 ScienceRob wrote:
While Raelcun is right about this, I think its cute. Sort of like when little kids try to act like adults.I say let them be and enjoy the show.

Kids, after all, will be kids.


That is the most condescending thing I've ever seen.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
September 14 2010 02:06 GMT
#60
On September 14 2010 09:03 Toxigen wrote:
I'll maybe watch a few, but I just can't agree with this in principle.

If this were done by a high-level player but aimed to helping lower leagues by focusing on the basics, I could get behind it. Frankly, though, I feel like that's been done already by casters like HD and Husky.


I'm pretty sure HD etc aren't putting out youtube videos on what a control group is.

As regards putting out inaccurate information, well, give them a chance. I'm sure TL will be ready to inform them if they slip up
Dance those ultras
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