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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 01:33 GMT
#521
and yeah, RO is scum i think.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 05 2013 01:42 GMT
#522
On April 05 2013 10:25 geript wrote:
Mocsta I'm not getting a good feeling about Rayn. Any thoughts about him? Also, you know Oats better than I do. How do you feel about him?

Rayn: I dont have a firm opinion. I think coming up with a plan, and sticking with it: is alignment null.
Im still assessing how he is going about pushing his agenda - which is alignment indicative.

To answer your question in short: If i had a gun to my head i would say: weak town (subject to change)


Oats: In short; weak town.
I am finding that some of his prodding has showed insight into breaking down others thought processes.
In fact, some of the blunt questions he asked me yesterday, I had to think twice about it because on first glance it looked like rubbish, but as I was formulating a response, I realised he had a solid point.

My issue with Oats, and hence why the read is weak is that I am finding his play much more disruptive than usual. I dont have a problem with challenging others ideas; but he doesnt seem to be challenging them to grow the ideas; rather to kill the ideas.

======
I have 2 very strong town reads (i.e. if we went down a forced draft pick, I would trust them with a scum power role)

As for scum reads:
Someone on my radar to evaluate is AustinMCC.
I need to re-read him, but the sentiment I noticed when catching up was:
he came in gave a nice summary of discussion and then left

Whilst not ncessarily scum indicative: it matches his play from personality 2 to a tee. Including the weeooo police start.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 05 2013 01:46 GMT
#523
Mocsta, would you walk me through some of the things about Austin's play this game that are similar to Personality 2?
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 05 2013 01:47 GMT
#524
On April 05 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and yeah, RO is scum i think.

Can you walk me through this please.

From what I saw, the only build up you had to claiming RO is scum is:
On April 05 2013 03:28 Restraining Order wrote:
Ok, you can keep townhunting them townreads if you want, I sent in my numbers already. They shouldn't be too obtrusive to whatever nonsense you'll come up with, so it's okay.

Where I am having trouble following you is:

I dont see how *only* scum would would or could make a statement like this.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 01:48 GMT
#525
On April 05 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and yeah, RO is scum i think.

Can you walk me through this please.

From what I saw, the only build up you had to claiming RO is scum is:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 03:28 Restraining Order wrote:
Ok, you can keep townhunting them townreads if you want, I sent in my numbers already. They shouldn't be too obtrusive to whatever nonsense you'll come up with, so it's okay.

Where I am having trouble following you is:

I dont see how *only* scum would would or could make a statement like this.

RO is failing to contribute to anything at all. See his filter. No more need to be said. Good kill on D1/N1.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 01:54 GMT
#526
see me #1, or #23 :D
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
April 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#527
[image loading]
Drafting phase has ended.

The Draft list is
Sn0_man
obviousone
Raynpelikoneet
Sinani206
Visceraeyes
Geript
strongandbig
Caller
restraining order
Meapak_ziphh
artanis[xp]
sharrant
gonzaw
Austinmcc
Keirathi
Palmar
Mocsta
Shelvocke
Deconduo
Vivax
Oatmaster
billmurray
Yamato77

You now have 24 hours to submit your role choice to myself as well as Kurumi.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 05 2013 02:01 GMT
#528
On April 05 2013 10:46 yamato77 wrote:
Mocsta, would you walk me through some of the things about Austin's play this game that are similar to Personality 2?

I was casting a FoS. Much the same as you did with Palmar - Both need to input more.


If you want more specifics:
I recall when he entered the thread: that he presented a well written summary of everything that transpired to date; and then finished with an improvement to the concepts discussed.
This can inherently be associated as pro-town behaviour.

The thing is: guys like AustinMCC play like this whether town or scum; so I find the action itself "alignment null".

Instead, I am paying more attention to how he goes about pushing what he "believes in".


So my problem then becomes his disappearing act. After motivating town and presenting pathways to proceed; where was AustinMCC when the the thread took a turn away from "role picking" to 'town hunting".
He was trying to direct play before; so why not re-direct the thread back to "what he believed in".

Perhaps he was just busy, which is why he is on my radar to track further to re-evaluate when information comes up.


As for personality2, he basically did the same thing. Came in and gave pro-town spiels on how to proceed; but rarely followed up and pushed it hard. He also tried to continually challenge marv's ideas to help "grow" them, but always led marv down the wrong track. Basically he plays as the right hand man/key advisor, that is actually not on your side. VERY DANGEROUS.

With the police sirens; he used them in personality 2 to tell people to stop shitting up the thread.
I think he took a similar approach here with the "summary intervention".
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 02:02 GMT
#529
fuck, only #3 :D
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#530
yamato what did you pick?
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#531
Fuck, goodbye dream. Inventor, you were a nice friend, I'll never forget ya.

So, SnoMan scum for picking [1,1] but no scum clashing with him?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#532
everyone what did you pick?
no harm telling.

i did [5] [1]
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 05 2013 02:04 GMT
#533
Lol.. RNG failed me

I was [8][12]

Surprised I was so far down the list.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
April 05 2013 02:05 GMT
#534
[8,2]
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 02:06 GMT
#535
holy shit, did Sno_man really get away with 1,1 :D
table for two on a tv tray
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
April 05 2013 02:07 GMT
#536
I picked [11] [9]
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 05 2013 02:08 GMT
#537
fuck this game.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 05 2013 02:08 GMT
#538
Palmar what's the role you want?
table for two on a tv tray
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
April 05 2013 02:08 GMT
#539
6, 2 here.

I'll pick a role mafia wants, but not an important one, too far down for that. The joys of being average.
Don't let me stop you.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 05 2013 02:08 GMT
#540
On April 05 2013 10:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote:
On April 05 2013 10:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and yeah, RO is scum i think.

Can you walk me through this please.

From what I saw, the only build up you had to claiming RO is scum is:
On April 05 2013 03:28 Restraining Order wrote:
Ok, you can keep townhunting them townreads if you want, I sent in my numbers already. They shouldn't be too obtrusive to whatever nonsense you'll come up with, so it's okay.

Where I am having trouble following you is:

I dont see how *only* scum would would or could make a statement like this.

RO is failing to contribute to anything at all. See his filter. No more need to be said. Good kill on D1/N1.

I still dont follow.

What has there been to contribute?

We have been talking about plans; just because someone disagrees with you, does not make them scum.

I think this is clutching at straws, and is providing preferential treatment. RO duly pointed out others that also did not agree with the plan; yet you seem to be singling him out specifically.

If you want traction: I am going to need more than "failing to contribute".
Otherwise, this looks like a weak attempt to "scum hunt" - which can indeed be construed as scummy.

In short, all I am asking for is: Why are ROs actions specifically scummy, and can not be a townie that shares a different mindset to that of yourself?
To answer: read his filter.. is not an appropriate answer, because I already disagree with you.. you're meant to be trying to convince me...show me what you see
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