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On May 28 2011 11:42 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:41 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:40 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin  Moonglade vs Kawaiirice First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting  Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while  Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner 2:05 Expansion first for Moonglade 3:30 Factory is in production now Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens 5:00 Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion 6:30 Roach warren has finished and ling speed is almost done Hellions are now moving across the map 8:00 Baneling nest has finished for Moonglade First siege tank is now out for Kawaiirice while stim is being researched 9:30 Moonglade pushes into the base of Kawaiirice with a roach baneling force kills a few marines and the tanks retreat to the mineral line
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Kawaiirice cleans up the first attack but moonglade reinforces with some roaches and speedlings
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GG! Well played by Moonglade, the timing seemed perfect.
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normal play for GLaDe was usually ling/bling/muta against T, I haven't seen a tonne of all-ins from him.
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On May 28 2011 11:42 mistgun_EU wrote: pro decision making, moonglade saw early blueflame, so he probably knew there would be no siege yet Should be interesting to see if he would mention that in an interview. I highly doubt it. That looked like a blind build to me.
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Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
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"bam bam thank ya mam".
I do believe gretorp mistaked a wam for a bam.
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On May 28 2011 11:42 Golgotha wrote:yeah it's really good. you do know he is also 1-5 in NASL right?
Um. He hasn't lost a boX TvZ in macro games in months. Beats guys like Ret, etc He only loses to stupid all ins like this.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:42 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:41 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:40 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:39 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:37 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:33 Drazerk wrote:Next Match is about to begin  Moonglade vs Kawaiirice First map will be on Crevasse Game One is now starting  Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner while  Kawaiirice is located in the top left corner 2:05 Expansion first for Moonglade 3:30 Factory is in production now Few lings are being constructed for Moonglade along with his queens 5:00 Blue flame is being researched for Kawaiirice while getting his expansion 6:30 Roach warren has finished and ling speed is almost done Hellions are now moving across the map 8:00 Baneling nest has finished for Moonglade First siege tank is now out for Kawaiirice while stim is being researched 9:30 Moonglade pushes into the base of Kawaiirice with a roach baneling force kills a few marines and the tanks retreat to the mineral line 11:00 Kawaiirice cleans up the first attack but moonglade reinforces with some roaches and speedlings
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Marines and SCVs go down to Moonglade's forces
Kawaiirice GGs and leaves the game
Moonglade is now 1-0 up in the series
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He expanded, droned and macro hatched behind that.
Don't think it was that all in
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I wonder how much scarier that would have been if he wasn't floating so many minerals... even after he dropped 2 more hatcheries
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On May 28 2011 11:42 blade55555 wrote:This is normal play for glade. Turns out it wasn't even all-in; just a strong timing attack with macro behind it.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
Any attack at all is being considered allin nowadays, i wouldnt put too much thought into it. The term is being plenty misused.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
Ignore it, it's a stupid term incorrectly used to describe any time at which Zerg shifts from drone commitment to unit commitment. Horribly misused in my opinion - it should be unique to Terrans and their SCV pushes (where it originated).
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On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
Generally people think zerg attacking before the 10 minute mark is all in. It isn't unless they donate all the units.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
If seige mode had been done, or there were 2-3 bunkers he would have been super far behind and would have lost the game. Doing an attack like that off of 2 bases (and not expanding to a third) is all in as kawaii would have been up a base which = better economy, army, etc.
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On May 28 2011 11:44 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:42 Golgotha wrote:On May 28 2011 11:36 1Eris1 wrote: kawaii should easily 2-0. such good tvz yeah it's really good. you do know he is also 1-5 in NASL right? Um. He hasn't lost a boX TvZ in macro games in months. Beats guys like Ret, etc He only loses to stupid all ins like this.
I hate those all-ins where you take a 3rd and a macro hatch behind it. And do a round of drones after your first push, and don't reinforce the push and instead wait for more of your forces.
Those all-ins suck man.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:42 mistgun_EU wrote: pro decision making, moonglade saw early blueflame, so he probably knew there would be no siege yet Should be interesting to see if he would mention that in an interview. I highly doubt it. That looked like a blind build to me. Yea it looked blind to me too. I actually think it was prompted by the fact that it is crevasse and he knows he can get in easily thanks to the rocks.
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I just thought it was a very smart timing attack.
He KNEW that siege mode wouldnt have been done because of blue flame hellions.
Very very very smart...
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