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On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't.
It wasn't an all in at all, he built a round of drones and was taking another base.
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On May 28 2011 11:44 Deeeno wrote: I wonder how much scarier that would have been if he wasn't floating so many minerals... even after he dropped 2 more hatcheries I wonder how less scary it would have looked had Kawaii droped some bunkers after seeing the roach ling on the way rather than starting a third CC.
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I think terran needs to do a full wall on that map. Roaches killing the rocks is essentially unavoidable, and the open wall frees up the banelings to kill units instead of structures. If zerg had to use banelings to get inside that battle would have ended differently.
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On May 28 2011 11:44 Deeeno wrote: I wonder how much scarier that would have been if he wasn't floating so many minerals... even after he dropped 2 more hatcheries Floating some minerals is quite normal for zergs at that stage if they have a good economy. They just can't really spend it without additional macro hatches.
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On May 28 2011 11:45 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:43 ellirc wrote:On May 28 2011 11:42 mistgun_EU wrote: pro decision making, moonglade saw early blueflame, so he probably knew there would be no siege yet Should be interesting to see if he would mention that in an interview. I highly doubt it. That looked like a blind build to me. Yea it looked blind to me too. I actually think it was prompted by the fact that it is crevasse and he knows he can get in easily thanks to the rocks.
well even gretorp mentioned that he saw blueflame hellions early and decided to go for kill instead of getting more ahead.
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On May 28 2011 11:43 travis wrote: "bam bam thank ya mam".
I do believe gretorp mistaked a wam for a bam.
He's just a flintstones fan
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On May 28 2011 11:45 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't. If seige mode had been done, or there were 2-3 bunkers he would have been super far behind and would have lost the game. Doing an attack like that off of 2 bases (and not expanding to a third) is all in as kawaii would have been up a base which = better economy, army, etc.
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
you need a fucking manual to understand people's definition of all-in noawadays.
that was not an all-in, it was a read, planned and executed attack by moonglade. he knew that he committed to blue flame hellions which gave him a window to punish him for those hellions doing absolutely nothing
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Game Two is now starting on Typhon Peaks
Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner
While Kawaiirice is located in the Top left corner
Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series
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It might have been turned out differently if KawaiiRice hit the expansion from a different angle.
Game 2 Typhon Peaks, Kawaii at 9 and Moonglade at 3.
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On May 28 2011 11:46 pieman819 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:44 Deeeno wrote: I wonder how much scarier that would have been if he wasn't floating so many minerals... even after he dropped 2 more hatcheries I wonder how less scary it would have looked had Kawaii droped some bunkers after seeing the roach ling on the way rather than starting a third CC.
Lol, it would be equal if we're simply basing it off what could have been done. Kawaii with more defense, Glade with more attacking forces. And on and on...
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On May 28 2011 11:47 partisan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:43 travis wrote: "bam bam thank ya mam".
I do believe gretorp mistaked a wam for a bam. He's just a flintstones fan
lmao!
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On May 28 2011 11:47 akalarry wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:45 blade55555 wrote:On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't. If seige mode had been done, or there were 2-3 bunkers he would have been super far behind and would have lost the game. Doing an attack like that off of 2 bases (and not expanding to a third) is all in as kawaii would have been up a base which = better economy, army, etc. loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool you need a fucking manual to understand people's definition of all-in noawadays. that was not an all-in, it was a read, planned and executed attack by moonglade. he knew that he committed to blue flame hellions which gave him a window to punish him for those hellions doing absolutely nothing
+1
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On May 28 2011 11:47 Drazerk wrote:Game Two is now starting on Typhon Peaks  Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner While  Kawaiirice is located in the Top left corner Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series
2:30
Hatchery first for Moonglade
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sorry guys, just tuned in, why does the spoiler tag show that game 1 was on metalopolis ? smth wrong there ?
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Too add to the screaming, I too dislike the over use of the term "all-in".
There's a difference between "all-in" and "disadvantage."
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On May 28 2011 11:48 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:47 Drazerk wrote:Game Two is now starting on Typhon Peaks  Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner While  Kawaiirice is located in the Top left corner Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series 2:30 Hatchery first for Moonglade
3:30
Hatchery finishes for Moonglade
Reaper on the way for Kawaiirice
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Yea if that was an all-in, I go all-in in every single game I play at some point...
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On May 28 2011 11:45 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:43 Techno wrote: Mr Bitters said that MoonGlade was "all in" but how all in was it? It was simply building an army at a time where IdrA wouldn't. Ignore it, it's a stupid term incorrectly used to describe any time at which Zerg shifts from drone commitment to unit commitment. Horribly misused in my opinion - it should be unique to Terrans and their SCV pushes (where it originated).
Well when on 2 base, it's very hard to distinguish an all-in and a timing. Moonglade obviously had a timing in mind and had to do significant damage or he would've lost the game. All timings are somewat all-in becuz of their low economy, but if they do enough damage, u can easily transition into economy. So the terms are a bit vague.
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On May 28 2011 11:49 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:48 Drazerk wrote:On May 28 2011 11:47 Drazerk wrote:Game Two is now starting on Typhon Peaks  Moonglade is positioned at the Top right corner While  Kawaiirice is located in the Top left corner Moonglade is 1-0 up in the series 2:30 Hatchery first for Moonglade 3:30 Hatchery finishes for Moonglade Reaper on the way for Kawaiirice
4:30
Stim and expansion are on the way for Kawaiirice
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On May 28 2011 11:45 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 11:43 ellirc wrote:On May 28 2011 11:42 mistgun_EU wrote: pro decision making, moonglade saw early blueflame, so he probably knew there would be no siege yet Should be interesting to see if he would mention that in an interview. I highly doubt it. That looked like a blind build to me. Yea it looked blind to me too. I actually think it was prompted by the fact that it is crevasse and he knows he can get in easily thanks to the rocks. We think alike.
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