I've enjoyed Sjow's play for awhile now, but I too have been surprised by his seeming lack of hotkey use. Yes, he hotkeys his buildings, but he is generally slow to control group his units. And watching his stream today, I've never seen him use more than 2 hotkeys for units.

I really enjoy watching Hashe's stream also and he favors the boxing approach also.

This makes me reevaluate why I'm spending so much time trying to develop better unit control mico with hotkeys. Both Sjow and Hashe show a similar patience-and a calm under fire. I think that the precision of their mechanics in conjunction with strategy must be winning them games.

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

December 08 2010 01:21 GMT

#102

He's obviously really good even with such low APM, but I don't think it's possible to deny that he would be even better with faster play and multitasking. For instance, his macro slips a lot in many situations. It's not just in the late-game (where he's been hovering between 1000-2000 in several games, which is obviously a huge problem), even in the midgame I've seen the minerals go up quihte a bit (and having units queued) in a completely unnecessary way, often while he's busy microing. The builds he's going for would be so much cleaner and efficient if he worked on that. I also don't like the lack of scouting and general map awareness he seems to have a lot of times. =/ Considering how good he appearantly is already, he would be an absolute monster if he fixed his weaknesses.

Anyways, awesome stream! ^__^

Narcotic

Italy101 Posts

December 08 2010 22:54 GMT

#103

Very nice :D

xjoehammerx

United States191 Posts

December 09 2010 01:46 GMT

#104

Great stream Sjow. Your micro is amazing man. When can we get a replay pack? <3

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

December 09 2010 18:03 GMT

#105

i like your stream! keep it up

Nakama

Germany584 Posts

December 09 2010 18:07 GMT

#106

im think this is the stream i learned most from in the shortest possible time
so nice to see him go up to the 1000 overmins and still pwning good ppl due to superior decision making

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

December 09 2010 18:10 GMT

#107

He plays very calm and collected. Sort of reminds me of a Uniden gone pro.

drdrink

United States2 Posts

December 10 2010 17:31 GMT

#108

Good God you are fast. You may want to uninstall the ask toolbar in firefox. That stuff will mess up//slow down your browser. From firefox, Tools>Addons>Uninstall Ask Toolbar.

EDIT: I saw Nani do bad things to you with forcefield. Granted that I'm a noob, but please shoot an EMP at his face already!

EDIT2: That came off a little harsh. I really like your channel and thank you for streaming. I'm learning a lot.

Lylat

France8575 Posts

December 10 2010 23:05 GMT

#109

Awesome, thank you for streaming your games

F u r u y a

Brazil173 Posts

December 11 2010 00:02 GMT

#110

I like the low APM

and the hip hop

keep streaming!

Jager

United Kingdom140 Posts

December 12 2010 22:13 GMT

#111

thoroughly enjoying his stream, his ingame intelligence is excellent and he manages to stay cool under pressure.

bL1Nd

Canada45 Posts

December 12 2010 22:45 GMT

#112

love the stream, what is that song 'pure columbian cocaine' with johnny depp samples called??

Zolo7

United States1 Post

December 13 2010 00:29 GMT

#113

What was that hardstyle song that played when sjow time was at 1:25!!!!!!! :c or the one before this current one?

Nazgul IX

Netherlands63 Posts

December 13 2010 21:03 GMT

#114

I like SjoW's stream it's great. Very nice and talented player

RationalGaze

United Kingdom121 Posts

December 14 2010 00:25 GMT

#115

Wow, Sjow even plays Z like a boss. Well played, very interesting matches between you and that Eizcaj dude. Hope you win the bo5 and he gives you the 50 Euros!

Edit: OK I've watched up to g4 now and that guy was just sad all-inning twice in a row. He went banshee every game though, so why no spore towers?

ProdigySim

United States17 Posts

December 14 2010 01:18 GMT

#116

LOL That bo5 reverse match was hilarious.

Sjow was asking for a Zerg player to play a Bo5 reverse match (sjow plays Z, Z player plays T), with a 50 euro bet attached. Some guy responds and says "Sure I'll take your money"

Sjow plays an amazingly good defensive/reactive/macro zerg. I was super jealous.

The guy playing terran just does Marine/SCV rushes (note: not all of them were allins), and wins the BO5 on the last 3 maps.

Comedy gold.

Malinor

Germany4758 Posts

December 14 2010 22:13 GMT

#117

He just owned the shit out of Darkforce in a 15minutes game where he did not use scan once and no scv of his ever set food on Darkforce's side of the map. And still while I was watching his FPview, it made so much sense, without seeing anything it was kinda obvious what Darkforce was doing from just the few skirmishes that happened. This really is an highly interesting stream.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

December 14 2010 22:53 GMT

#118

On December 15 2010 07:13 Malinor wrote:
He just owned the shit out of Darkforce in a 15minutes game where he did not use scan once and no scv of his ever set food on Darkforce's side of the map. And still while I was watching his FPview, it made so much sense, without seeing anything it was kinda obvious what Darkforce was doing from just the few skirmishes that happened. This really is an highly interesting stream.

Well, didn't he make Banshees? I'm not sure if it's the same game, but I've watched like 4 games of him vs Darkforce right now... the Banshees do the scouting job quite well so obviously he wouldn't really need to scan or anything like that.

Malinor

Germany4758 Posts

December 14 2010 23:17 GMT

#119

On December 15 2010 07:53 Shikyo wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yeah he made banshees and killed 2(?)queens with them while losing one I think. And in the beginning he exchanged like 2 marines against 2drones+2lings at Zergs natural. Nothing game-breaking.

Don't read too much into my post, all I wanted to say is that he gets away with barely using classic scouting patterns. That the banshee harass + 2early marines plus constant poking at the watch-towers gives him kinda enough information about his opponent is just interesting to me. That's so many minerals in mules and SCVs, which are mining and not running around the map and die.