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Losiek
Poland32 Posts
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ahbon
France325 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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Brutus
Netherlands284 Posts
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teumas
Sweden280 Posts
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:33 Brutus wrote: Am I the only one who is surprised? He clicks essential things (cloak/decloack, siege/unsiege), he queues 5 units per baracks/cc/etc while not even under pressure or multitasking or anything, he gets supply blocks often and he doesn't even keybind buildings or anything, just clicks his way through. How can this be a top player in europe? You're not. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
Thanks for streaming, I downloaded more than a few of your replays to study lol. | ||
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Blondinbengt
Sweden578 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4759 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:33 Brutus wrote: Am I the only one who is surprised? He clicks essential things (cloak/decloack, siege/unsiege), he queues 5 units per baracks/cc/etc while not even under pressure or multitasking or anything, he gets supply blocks often and he doesn't even keybind buildings or anything, just clicks his way through. How can this be a top player in europe? You are exaggerating a ton. He has his buildings keybound (Orbitals on 5, Rax 0, Fac 9, Starport 8) and he is not constantly supply-blocked. The last game against Morrow on Scrap Station... if hundreds of lings constantly kill your depots, that's probably gonna happen, yes. You are right about the clicking of cloack and siege, that is really strange to see and probably could easily be improved. | ||
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triforks
United States370 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
"well the ones who played sc:bw at a high level prior to sc2 will do fine but..you know those 80 apm terrans who are winning tournaments, yeah they wouldn't even beat a computer." :p | ||
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Brutus
Netherlands284 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:34 Promises wrote: Let me see... he's having a relaxed evening playing friends, his core decision making is good, he's not always on his top game. That kind of stuff? When did he make a good decision? You mean when he landed all his vikings to kill 1, yes 1, zergling and then lost all his vikings to mutas? Or when he rallied his 1 helion, saw roaches, but sacked another 2 just for the hell of it. Or when he clumped up all his air forces while he already saw the infestors. Ah well, maybe I am missing something here. On December 07 2010 07:38 Malinor wrote: You are exaggerating a ton. He has his buildings keybound (Orbitals on 5, Rax 0, Fac 9, Starport 8) and he is not constantly supply-blocked. The last game against Morrow on Scrap Station... if hundreds of lings constantly kill your depots, that's probably gonna happen, yes. You are right about the clicking of cloack and siege, that is really strange to see and probably could easily be improved. I never saw him using the keybinds, just click on the map to his base to queue up. I am talking about the the time before the lings, he got supply blocked a ton. Anyway, maybe you guys are right, maybe he is just relaxing and playing a bit vs his team mate. I still think his play seems very underwhelming for someone who is considered a top European player. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:40 triforks wrote: lol he said they are praccing for next patch. just wondering why do they not just do it on the PTR? EU has no PTR, just NA. not everyone owns a NA account | ||
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Grack
51 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:44 hifriend wrote: Sjow is proof of how little mechanics matter in sc2. :O Like most C- scrubs on iccup have better mechanics and higher apm. true sc2 is more about decision making, army composition and build orders | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:44 Brutus wrote: When did he make a good decision? You mean when he landed all his vikings to kill 1, yes 1, zergling and then lost all his vikings to mutas? Or when he rallied his 1 helion, saw roaches, but sacked another 2 just for the hell of it. Or when he clumped up all his air forces while he already saw the infestors. Ah well, maybe I am missing something here. I never saw him using the keybinds, just click on the map to his base to queue up. I am talking about the the time before the lings, he got supply blocked a ton. Anyway, maybe you guys are right, maybe he is just relaxing and playing a bit vs his team mate. I still think his play seems very underwhelming for someone who is considered a top European player. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1777_SjoW#tblt-5868-1-1-DESC 2 pages full of tournament wins. u can barely argue with results like these. but u are right to a certain extend, if he doesnt improve his mechanics, i expect him to fall behind more and more as sc2 evolves and gets figured out on the tactical and strategical level. | ||
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:45 DoXa wrote: EU has no PTR, just NA. not everyone owns a NA account MorroW and SjoW certainly own NA accounts. edit: Regarding SjoW's mechanics. I agree they're bad, but he has been tearing through tournaments the last few months in dominating fashion. You can't argue with that. His decision making and "strategery" is above most other pro gamers. That's why his stream should be extremely interesting for everyone. Watch to see how he with intelligence manages to crush souls even with a mechanical handicap compared to other pro gamers. I'm sure his mechanics will get better over time aswell. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
People should learn from him how to win and quit the stupid apm discussions. | ||
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Rowa
Belgium962 Posts
I think the lack of mechanics were seeing right now is just sjow chillin' with morrow and testing some funny stuffs. His mecanics while watching his reps with camera lock are a lot better. Thx for sjowing us a bit of terran awesomeness ! | ||
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