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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 21 2012 09:01 GMT
#21
Referee's that are left are good ones?
England vs Italy on Sunday is being ref'd by the Champions League final from Portugal. He was great in that match.
Portugal vs Czech Republic has Howard Webb, world cup final referee and the best ref from England.
Germany vs Greece is going to be handled by Damir Skomina from slovenia who has had a fine tournament at the moment.
Spain vs France has the Italian ref Nicola Rizzoli who hasn't had that bad of a tournament either.

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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 21 2012 09:03 GMT
#22
I've played basketball and football with Proença (England vs Italy referee). Great guy and very professionally, takes his conditioning really seriously.
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
June 21 2012 10:15 GMT
#23
On June 21 2012 06:18 Retric wrote:
I think Kassai is the best referee. A shame they sent him home. Only his stupid assistant next to the goal screwed up big time.


Kassai is usually a good ref, but both his assistants made mistakes that have no place at this level.
Unfortunately he became a public enemy in one of the host countries, I bet he and his team would be under so much mental pressure if they had to officiate another match - it's better for him to be sent home at this time IMO.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
June 21 2012 10:22 GMT
#24
What team refereed the Ukraine - England match?

They should ALL be thrown out.
Worst job ever at a big event.
1 Goal not given.
Said goal was scored from a very clear offside, which wasn't given.

1 penalty not given. late in the 2nd half, 1 of the Eng players blocked a flank inside the area with an arm that was far outstretched behind him, neither a natural motion nor was it at his body.

More really obvious offsides not given.
virtu
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom147 Posts
June 21 2012 11:04 GMT
#25
On June 21 2012 19:22 snow2.0 wrote:
What team refereed the Ukraine - England match?

They should ALL be thrown out.
Worst job ever at a big event.
1 Goal not given.
Said goal was scored from a very clear offside, which wasn't given.

1 penalty not given. late in the 2nd half, 1 of the Eng players blocked a flank inside the area with an arm that was far outstretched behind him, neither a natural motion nor was it at his body.

More really obvious offsides not given.


Not to mention an obvious penalty when one of the ukranian defenders did some incredibly obvious and heavy shirt pulling in the middle of the area, literally changing the momentum of the england player (rooney I think).

Overall the refereeing was such a trainwreck that who knows what the outcome of the game would have been had it been referee'd properly, really poor for such an important and high profile tournament.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 21 2012 11:12 GMT
#26
On June 21 2012 18:01 Pandemona wrote:
Referee's that are left are good ones?
England vs Italy on Sunday is being ref'd by the Champions League final from Portugal. He was great in that match.
Portugal vs Czech Republic has Howard Webb, world cup final referee and the best ref from England.
Germany vs Greece is going to be handled by Damir Skomina from slovenia who has had a fine tournament at the moment.
Spain vs France has the Italian ref Nicola Rizzoli who hasn't had that bad of a tournament either.


Worl Cup final referee is hardly a recommendation for Webb!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 21 2012 11:18 GMT
#27
On June 21 2012 04:54 sharkie wrote:
Wolfgang Stark, Viktor Kassai, Björn Kuipers and Carlos Velasco Carballo all had to leave.
I am especially happy about Stark.

But when I see such "big names" leave and Howard Webb staying I wonder do referees become worse?

The only active referee I really respect and imo has been the best referee of the past few years is Ravshan Irmatov.

And I think being allowed to officiate the opening match of a World Cup and also officiating a full five matches shows how good he is.

It's a pity he neither got 3rd place or final match in the WC, would have been a record-breaking six matches in a WC.


well stark did an EXCELENT first game and then had 1 major mistake in the 2nd ... jaeh bad luck plz go but no reason to be happy he is gone cause at least they dont oversaw a goal xD
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
June 21 2012 12:17 GMT
#28
Webb was really good on thi euro.
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Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
June 21 2012 12:37 GMT
#29
On June 21 2012 10:54 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 06:06 Mafe wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:18 Trowa127 wrote:
I have to say, I haven't seen such piss poor officiating in ages. So many bad calls t_t. Hopefully the rest of the tournament turns out better.

Let's look at the 2010 world cup (ok twice as many matches but still): Lampards goal-that-never-was. Very harsh red card for an australian player (Cahill) against germany, there also should have been a penalty for them iirc. USA winning goal against slovenia being called back for nothing. A ref going card-crazy (germany vs serbia). Argentina goal against mexico scored by tevez being blatantly offside. A final in which kung-fu was just a yellow card. And probably some more I don't remember.

Kaka's red against Côte d'Ivoire, Torres's dive against Chile that resulted in Spainish goal AND red card for Chile.

As far as I can recall David Villa punched one the chilenian players in that game too. :/
I'll never understand why FIFA doesn't hand out way more bans for violet behavior during games.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
June 21 2012 13:16 GMT
#30
On June 21 2012 05:18 Trowa127 wrote:
I have to say, I haven't seen such piss poor officiating in ages. So many bad calls t_t. Hopefully the rest of the tournament turns out better.

Do people get memory lapses between championships? Recent wc's and euro's haven't been much different. In fact I think so far there's been less horrible officiated games than the last world championship who had some really bad ones in the group stages.
TheLastTemplar
Profile Joined February 2012
Iceland593 Posts
June 21 2012 13:30 GMT
#31
As an Arsenal fan... I would like to say howard webb can go fuck himself, repeatedly... you have no idea how many games hes just slayed us.
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kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
June 22 2012 08:37 GMT
#32
Kassai sended home, cause he didnt allow offside goal (UKR - ENG)... Which wasnt even really his call.. For me he has been really good. I rather watch him then Howard Webb, who is very overrated in my books.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 24 2012 06:02 GMT
#33
is it bad that i like Webb's refereeing?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 24 2012 08:59 GMT
#34
Don't blame the referee, blame the lack of video technology.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 24 2012 10:16 GMT
#35
I support Webb for to be the ref of the Final and one of the semi. The games with him as a ref are much more smooth thus more entertaining. You can tolerate a few minor faults to make the game more smooth.
I really dislike that Germany ref/Spain ref that blow the whistle at every goddam contact thus broken the game into many pieces and really slow the tempo down and make it boring.
Terran
HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
June 24 2012 11:53 GMT
#36
On June 24 2012 17:59 Grumbels wrote:
Don't blame the referee, blame the lack of video technology.

But if the use video technology how is UEFA supposed to except bribes.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
June 24 2012 12:10 GMT
#37
On June 24 2012 19:16 Caphe wrote:
I support Webb for to be the ref of the Final and one of the semi. The games with him as a ref are much more smooth thus more entertaining. You can tolerate a few minor faults to make the game more smooth.
I really dislike that Germany ref/Spain ref that blow the whistle at every goddam contact thus broken the game into many pieces and really slow the tempo down and make it boring.

His style can also backfire. It destroyed the world cup final because he gave the Dutch too much leeway, thereby allowing them to disrupt the Spanish play by unfair means.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 24 2012 12:11 GMT
#38
Webb has been pretty good so far. No glaring mistakes, always tries to let the game flow, and is frugal with showing cards. Pretty much all you can ask for in a ref.
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blapsd
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
England121 Posts
June 24 2012 12:44 GMT
#39
On June 24 2012 21:10 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 19:16 Caphe wrote:
I support Webb for to be the ref of the Final and one of the semi. The games with him as a ref are much more smooth thus more entertaining. You can tolerate a few minor faults to make the game more smooth.
I really dislike that Germany ref/Spain ref that blow the whistle at every goddam contact thus broken the game into many pieces and really slow the tempo down and make it boring.

His style can also backfire. It destroyed the world cup final because he gave the Dutch too much leeway, thereby allowing them to disrupt the Spanish play by unfair means.


The Dutch players destroyed the world cup final more than anyone else.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 24 2012 12:50 GMT
#40
On June 24 2012 21:10 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 19:16 Caphe wrote:
I support Webb for to be the ref of the Final and one of the semi. The games with him as a ref are much more smooth thus more entertaining. You can tolerate a few minor faults to make the game more smooth.
I really dislike that Germany ref/Spain ref that blow the whistle at every goddam contact thus broken the game into many pieces and really slow the tempo down and make it boring.

His style can also backfire. It destroyed the world cup final because he gave the Dutch too much leeway, thereby allowing them to disrupt the Spanish play by unfair means.

He gave like 15 yellows or whatever. Do you think it'd have been a better final if he had given 3 reds in the first 15min?
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