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DHM Summer Season Finals groups announced

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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 10 2021 19:53 GMT
#1
The groups for the DH Masters Summer Season Finals group stage are now out:

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The event will be held online from the 1st-4th July.

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 10 2021 20:02 GMT
#2
Poor Probe. No group was going to be nice for him, but that's probably as bad as it could have been.
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
June 10 2021 20:50 GMT
#3
On June 11 2021 05:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Poor Probe. No group was going to be nice for him, but that's probably as bad as it could have been.



yea... greatest T of all time, one of the best P's of all time and one of the best z's atm in his group..
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-10 20:54:05
June 10 2021 20:53 GMT
#4
I re-read all the names a good 5-6 times looking for where Serral was.

Pretty good group all around, hopping for Clem to carry through.
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
June 11 2021 00:52 GMT
#5
Group D for the best non-korean tvt
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
June 11 2021 01:02 GMT
#6
Really strong groups...and then D
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 11 2021 01:10 GMT
#7
On June 11 2021 10:02 Cricketer12 wrote:
Really strong groups...and then D


Group D's not significantly different in strength than Group A or C. In fact it's arguably the most even group.
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
June 11 2021 03:50 GMT
#8
Clem really got some luck here, the 1st place is for him to lose.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 11 2021 04:21 GMT
#9
On June 11 2021 12:50 parksonsc wrote:
Clem really got some luck here, the 1st place is for him to lose.

Aint that easy, because Neeb style is similar to Showtime, which give Clem trouble in EU scene. And TvT is pretty hard to predict with HM and Time are no push-over as well. Clem is still the favorite but I think he will need to work hard for it.
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
June 11 2021 04:40 GMT
#10
Clem is still the favorite for his group, but it's still true that his strongest matchup by far is his TvZ. I won't be surprised if he gets out 2-0, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Neeb and Heromarine manage to narrowly edge him out into third.
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary388 Posts
June 11 2021 06:24 GMT
#11
gogo Lambo
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
June 11 2021 06:29 GMT
#12
Excellent groups, sick line-up. Should be great fun
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
June 11 2021 06:32 GMT
#13
TIME not being stuck with Serral and Zest for once.
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
June 11 2021 07:37 GMT
#14
Go INno!
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EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
114 Posts
June 11 2021 08:34 GMT
#15
How are the seedings for these groups decided? Probe wins his region and gets this seem a bit rough.
Neuling
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany45 Posts
June 11 2021 08:51 GMT
#16
Predicting Trap/Dream, Reynor/Maru, INnoVation/Rogue, Clem/HeRoMeRinE with Lambo, Zest having some shots as well i think. Group D could be anyone as well (with Clem probably being one of the two advancing).
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
June 11 2021 08:59 GMT
#17
On June 11 2021 17:34 EndlessViolence wrote:
How are the seedings for these groups decided? Probe wins his region and gets this seem a bit rough.


No offense but Probe even beeing in this lineup is a gift from the current EPT system.
He is not even competitive in this lineup.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-11 09:24:06
June 11 2021 09:13 GMT
#18
On June 11 2021 17:34 EndlessViolence wrote:
How are the seedings for these groups decided? Probe wins his region and gets this seem a bit rough.

Seeding are based on current season EPT points ranking. Top 4 are Rogue - Maru - Trap - Clem for each group. Probe has one of the lowest EPT points among the players, hence the tough group.

On June 11 2021 17:51 Neuling wrote:
Predicting Trap/Dream, Reynor/Maru, INnoVation/Rogue, Clem/HeRoMeRinE with Lambo, Zest having some shots as well i think. Group D could be anyone as well (with Clem probably being one of the two advancing).

I would give Speical and Time some chance as wel. Zest best shot is to beat Reynor as I dont have confidence in him vs Maru.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 11 2021 09:42 GMT
#19
On June 11 2021 18:13 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2021 17:34 EndlessViolence wrote:
How are the seedings for these groups decided? Probe wins his region and gets this seem a bit rough.

Seeding are based on current season EPT points ranking. Top 4 are Rogue - Maru - Trap - Clem for each group. Probe has one of the lowest EPT points among the players, hence the tough group.

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On June 11 2021 17:51 Neuling wrote:
Predicting Trap/Dream, Reynor/Maru, INnoVation/Rogue, Clem/HeRoMeRinE with Lambo, Zest having some shots as well i think. Group D could be anyone as well (with Clem probably being one of the two advancing).

I would give Speical and Time some chance as wel. Zest best shot is to beat Reynor as I dont have confidence in him vs Maru.

He played vs Maru and Serral in NeXT groupstage and it wasn t looking to amazing for him there. So it s going to be rough again here I gues
MaxPax
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 11 2021 10:04 GMT
#20
On June 11 2021 17:34 EndlessViolence wrote:
How are the seedings for these groups decided? Probe wins his region and gets this seem a bit rough.

Tbf if they put him into any other group, that group would ve been a group of life imideatly. So thats probably the least controvercial one.
I m still salty they abondaned the at least one Korean and exactly on EU Player per group rule from last year though
MaxPax
VladSlymor
Profile Joined November 2020
80 Posts
June 11 2021 10:04 GMT
#21
Clem - HeroMarine, really?
I mean, we get this match-up every other week in the ESL weekly, it's quite a bummer to not have more exotic oppositions in the season finals.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-11 12:32:20
June 11 2021 12:32 GMT
#22
(P)Trap/(T)Dream (in that order)
(T)Maru/(Z)Reynor (NOT in that order)
(Z)Rogue/(T)INnoVation (NOT in that order)
(P)Neeb/(T)Clem (NOT in that order)
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FFgringo
Profile Joined December 2015
44 Posts
June 11 2021 13:21 GMT
#23
On June 11 2021 17:51 Neuling wrote:
Predicting Trap/Dream, Reynor/Maru, INnoVation/Rogue, Clem/HeRoMeRinE with Lambo, Zest having some shots as well i think. Group D could be anyone as well (with Clem probably being one of the two advancing).


Agree for most of the groups but D. I think Clem will be 1st and Neeb 2nd. I don't see HM making it to the RO8.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
June 11 2021 17:38 GMT
#24
Group A will be interesting. I feel like Lambo is favored to advance second (offline I might slightly favor Dream against Lambo, but online I'll give the zerg the nod) but if Scarlett shows up any of the non Trap players could advance.
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Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany153 Posts
June 11 2021 17:44 GMT
#25
On June 11 2021 22:21 FFgringo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2021 17:51 Neuling wrote:
Predicting Trap/Dream, Reynor/Maru, INnoVation/Rogue, Clem/HeRoMeRinE with Lambo, Zest having some shots as well i think. Group D could be anyone as well (with Clem probably being one of the two advancing).


Agree for most of the groups but D. I think Clem will be 1st and Neeb 2nd. I don't see HM making it to the RO8.



Heromarine will absolutely wreck Neeb...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-11 17:53:55
June 11 2021 17:53 GMT
#26
On June 11 2021 21:32 AzAlexZ wrote:
(P)Trap/(T)Dream (in that order)
(T)Maru/(Z)Reynor (NOT in that order)
(Z)Rogue/(T)INnoVation (NOT in that order)
(P)Neeb/(T)Clem (NOT in that order)


So... couldn't you have just put them in the other order?

I agree with the prediction though.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
June 11 2021 18:31 GMT
#27
On June 12 2021 02:53 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2021 21:32 AzAlexZ wrote:
(P)Trap/(T)Dream (in that order)
(T)Maru/(Z)Reynor (NOT in that order)
(Z)Rogue/(T)INnoVation (NOT in that order)
(P)Neeb/(T)Clem (NOT in that order)


So... couldn't you have just put them in the other order?

I agree with the prediction though.

I just listed the two players I thought would advance, I was pretty sure about the order of group A, but the other groups are up there based on their form then.
Otherwise, it would have been Reynor first and Neeb first for my preferred predictions
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 11 2021 18:46 GMT
#28
On June 12 2021 03:31 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2021 02:53 Nakajin wrote:
On June 11 2021 21:32 AzAlexZ wrote:
(P)Trap/(T)Dream (in that order)
(T)Maru/(Z)Reynor (NOT in that order)
(Z)Rogue/(T)INnoVation (NOT in that order)
(P)Neeb/(T)Clem (NOT in that order)


So... couldn't you have just put them in the other order?

I agree with the prediction though.

I just listed the two players I thought would advance, I was pretty sure about the order of group A, but the other groups are up there based on their form then.
Otherwise, it would have been Reynor first and Neeb first for my preferred predictions

Remember the order of the match are important as well, Reynor has to play Zest first for the IEM Final rematch, and depending on how Zest ZvP look, Reynor might have to play him twice to get out of the group. Same situation in group C where Inno has to play against Special, who just beat him in ST2 and look very good in TvT. Group D would be full of potential for "upset" as HM will play Clem first, with Time and Neeb trying to lock it down as well.
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
June 12 2021 02:07 GMT
#29
All of these groups are pretty competitive overall, should be an excellent slate of games come the first weekend of July.
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