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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 20:26:59
November 13 2020 20:22 GMT
#1
After a wild group stage that saw four of six Korean players eliminated while both North Americans advanced, the DreamHack Winter Season Finals heads to the playoffs.

The quarterfinals is headlined by a match between Clem and Reynor—a rematch of the DH Europe finals where Clem came out on top. Reynor had previously expressed his desire to get revenge on Clem, and his wish has been granted with a favorable bracket draw.

DreamHack StarCraft 2 Masters 2020: Winter

The playoffs also features two clashes between NA and Korea—the most surprising regions of the season finals for diametrically opposite reasons. Will Stats and TY be able to preserve the GSL's honor? Or will "powerful clowns" Astrea and Neeb out yet another pair of Koreans?

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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
November 13 2020 20:37 GMT
#2
I like this bracket a lot. Can't wait!
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
November 13 2020 20:41 GMT
#3
Literally the most hype Ro8 matchups I've seen.
very illegal and very uncool
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
November 13 2020 20:46 GMT
#4
EuroZ > Freecs semis
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 13 2020 22:05 GMT
#5
This is what Blizzard always hoped would happen at Blizzcon/WCS Finals.
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
November 13 2020 22:41 GMT
#6
NA is 2/2 and China is 1/1 group --> playoffs while EU is 3/4 and Korea is 2/6. I guess NA/China > EU > Korea now XD

Just kidding, I know that's not how it works.
DSTARI Nedved
Profile Joined October 2020
4 Posts
November 13 2020 22:45 GMT
#7
My god... This is gonna be epicness on the scale we've never seen... HYPE lvl 90000000000000000
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 13 2020 22:52 GMT
#8
Really cool bracket!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 13 2020 23:34 GMT
#9
Of course TY gets exactly Neeb. Of course that's how the bracket works out, from 3 possibilities.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55583 Posts
November 13 2020 23:39 GMT
#10
On November 14 2020 08:34 Circumstance wrote:
Of course TY gets exactly Neeb. Of course that's how the bracket works out, from 3 possibilities.

To be fair TY already had the other 2 in the previous events. He always takes 2nd in groups too, Neeb should have just known better
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
November 14 2020 00:09 GMT
#11
Stats will take it all, giving us our first protoss winner in forever.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
Light1082
Profile Joined May 2020
18 Posts
November 14 2020 00:11 GMT
#12
I'm hyped up for this RO8. I'll Throw out my predictions:
TY>Neeb 3-1
Serral>Time 3-1
Stats>Astrea 3-0
Reynor>Clem 3-2

TY>Serral 3-2
Reynor>Stats 3-1

TY>Reynor 4-2

It would be great to see some (somewhat) upsets. The non-korean players have really been stepping up their game this year - so its super exciting to see how the rest of the tournament will play out!

The Clem/Reynor matchup in the RO8 is the most exciting, in my opinion. There's so many ways this RO8 can go :D
f_galvin
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
November 14 2020 01:20 GMT
#13
I like all of these matchups a lot -- each player has a shot at the ro4. I think we will see some upsets. Predictions:

Neeb>TY 3-2
Serral > Time 3-1
Astrea > Stats 3-2
Clem > Reynor 3-2

Serral > Neeb 3-1
Clem > Astrea 3-0

Serral > Clem 4-1

Can't wait!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 14 2020 01:29 GMT
#14
I want to see Neeb vs Serral. I think Serral is likely to win his first match so Neeb needs to pull it out vs TY. But I also hope to see TY playing at full strength, which would make it very hard on Neeb.

Clem vs Stats would also be awesome to see if Stats is playing at full strength.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
November 14 2020 02:52 GMT
#15
Time again from all possibilities meet serral like he always did.
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 14 2020 03:47 GMT
#16
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
November 14 2020 04:56 GMT
#17
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?

I hate the way they run their twitch channel, it also means I can't turn on notifications for them because I'll keep getting blasted with their reruns, and I can't put them in my autohost list because they'll monopolize it with their reruns

anyways here you go https://www.sc2links.com/tournament/?match=668
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
November 14 2020 06:32 GMT
#18
On November 14 2020 13:56 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?

I hate the way they run their twitch channel, it also means I can't turn on notifications for them because I'll keep getting blasted with their reruns, and I can't put them in my autohost list because they'll monopolize it with their reruns

anyways here you go https://www.sc2links.com/tournament/?match=668

Yeah they need to do something about the perpetual re-runs thing. I don't really mind there being re-runs always on, but maybe not on the primary channel or something...
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 14 2020 07:37 GMT
#19
On November 14 2020 10:29 NonY wrote:
I want to see Neeb vs Serral. I think Serral is likely to win his first match so Neeb needs to pull it out vs TY. But I also hope to see TY playing at full strength, which would make it very hard on Neeb.

Clem vs Stats would also be awesome to see if Stats is playing at full strength.


Neeb beating a full-strength TY sounds extremely unlikely tbh, save for some cross-server weirdness (massive disruptor shots).

Hate to be a buzzkill but I think we will still just end up with the Serral-Reynor finals.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 14 2020 08:27 GMT
#20
LMAO Time was expecting Neeb not Serral.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
November 14 2020 08:59 GMT
#21
here's a message from the future

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maru G5L pls
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-14 09:47:43
November 14 2020 09:46 GMT
#22
i think Reynor or Serral are favourites but I feel like ultimately TY or Stats will win this one.

Edit: I know TY won 2 GSLs this year and in pretty dominant fashion but I feel like he does not do very well in smaller premier tournaments.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 14 2020 10:14 GMT
#23
On November 14 2020 13:56 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?

I hate the way they run their twitch channel, it also means I can't turn on notifications for them because I'll keep getting blasted with their reruns, and I can't put them in my autohost list because they'll monopolize it with their reruns

anyways here you go https://www.sc2links.com/tournament/?match=668


Wow, this is pretty neat. Thank you.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
November 14 2020 10:46 GMT
#24
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?


I agree it's awfuly managed.
Although, I made system in my head like this : in group stage broadcasts was live for 9h, in Main event they are 4-4.5h. So you count how many days ago was group you are searching for, click on broadcast you are looking for and that's pretty much it.

Or wait couple of days and go on YT channel EslArchives and find match by macth upload there
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
November 14 2020 11:32 GMT
#25
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?

The best way to find the correct VOD is by checking the stream schedule and cross referencing it with the liquidpedia broadcast time. The titles of the broadcasts aren't accurate, but the broadcast times are. For example, since the broadcasts for each day start at 6AM PST, you look through the stream schedule for the broadcast starting at 6AM PST and it should be the right one.
DevilDriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany77 Posts
November 14 2020 11:49 GMT
#26
I think this bracket is incredibly hard to predict after all these upsets. I am really excited for this Ro8
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
875 Posts
November 14 2020 11:59 GMT
#27
Clem is still on the road guy, reynor won t break him
nvrs
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece481 Posts
November 14 2020 19:22 GMT
#28
Go Clem!!
FFgringo
Profile Joined December 2015
44 Posts
November 14 2020 19:32 GMT
#29
Fantastic games by Clem, it seems like he has really managed to find a way to counter the lurker style of Reynor now.
Awesome player, and great semi-finals coming tomorrow, can't wait!
Excited for Neeb vs Serral as well. Great tournament.
Lucky_JL
Profile Joined October 2020
Portugal11 Posts
November 14 2020 22:08 GMT
#30
On November 14 2020 20:32 ImmortalGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 12:47 phodacbiet wrote:
What's up with ESL vods. There are so many re-runs that it's pretty difficult to find the vods of the most recent games. Is there a way to split up the vods before you guys run your 15 hours re-runs?

The best way to find the correct VOD is by checking the stream schedule and cross referencing it with the liquidpedia broadcast time. The titles of the broadcasts aren't accurate, but the broadcast times are. For example, since the broadcasts for each day start at 6AM PST, you look through the stream schedule for the broadcast starting at 6AM PST and it should be the right one.


Why not get them direclty from https://www.sc2links.com/ ?
For me is the easy way to get them, I am on CET/GMT timezone and this week groups started at 1400 PM and conflicted with the work schedule.
Light1082
Profile Joined May 2020
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 10:37:58
November 15 2020 10:34 GMT
#31
That was an amazing RO8. TY underperforming, Serral looking strong, Astrea showing his strength despite not taking the series against the last Korean hope - Stats! and Clem looking better than ever & maybe even the favorite for the whole thing?! Wild. Some AMAZING Starcraft at the end of 2020. I'm going to have to update my predictions:
Serral > Neeb 3-2
Clem > Stats 3-2

Finals: Serral>Clem 4-3
Let's see what happens!
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
875 Posts
November 15 2020 10:48 GMT
#32
On November 15 2020 19:34 Light1082 wrote:
Finals: Serral>Clem 4-3
Let's see what happens!


I can t predict anything but Clem do a good job and he s the favorite for now even if i won t be disappointed by Stats winning the match with a clever play-style.All depends of Clem patience.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 15 2020 12:19 GMT
#33
On November 14 2020 17:59 neptunusfisk wrote:
here's a message from the future

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This didn't age well
rly ?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
November 15 2020 14:07 GMT
#34
6 foreigners and only 2 koreans in the ro8.. 4 regions represented in the ro8.. damn, was not expecting this.

Great to see
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1298 Posts
November 15 2020 18:27 GMT
#35
Serral didn't like all that talk about him being a slump ._.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Light1082
Profile Joined May 2020
18 Posts
November 16 2020 02:35 GMT
#36
That was a great tournament. Global events are always so exciting, but this one was especially great with a lot of strong non-korean representation. Astrea really surprised me - coming so close to taking down Stats... TIME knocking out Innovation, Neeb dominating TY, Maru getting eliminated immediately, tonnes of players on the rise including: Armani, Time, Astrea, and most of all, CLEM!!! Serral reclaiming the throne was great to watch - I'm hoping to see him continue to win tournament after tournament like 2018. Surprisingly the competition in 2020 seems to be the fiercest its ever been. It would be great to see some more Koreans mixed in with the strong foreigners like Dark, Zest, Byun, Rogue, Dream, and Cure so players like Reynor, Clem, Serral, Neeb, and Astrea can show what they're made of!
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