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GO4SC2 is ending on 28th of April

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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 17 2019 18:07 GMT
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After more than nine years of intense Starcraft II action, we are sad to announce that our weekly online cups on ESL Play open to the entire community will see their last matches on April 28. Click here if you wish to play the last cup of the SC2 Go4 Series!

To close this huge chapter in ESL Play’s history, we decided to honor the players that left their mark on our cups with their dedication and consistency. Meet the SC2 Go4 Series gods: ...

You can read the whole article here: www.eslgaming.com

Personally its sad to see going go4sc2 away however i feel like there are a lot of weekly and monthly stuff already so its not that big of a hit?

What do you guys think?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 17 2019 18:17 GMT
#2
This sucks!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
EESCLuna
Profile Joined February 2017
Spain53 Posts
April 17 2019 18:21 GMT
#3
The question is, why ? I was expecting HSC to end sooner than you...
Balance means nerf Protoss
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 17 2019 18:30 GMT
#4
That's a huge blow. Sad stuff but they will have their reasons.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
April 17 2019 18:33 GMT
#5
I didn't watch anymore but it's make me sad, I have such good memories of this tournament between 2010-11, the Happy's wins, the rise of Stephano, it was such good times for the scene.
EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
115 Posts
April 17 2019 18:54 GMT
#6
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 17 2019 18:58 GMT
#7
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
April 17 2019 19:45 GMT
#8
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

I think it was very good for up&comers, there is not so many tournaments where you can show yourself anymore and practicing for the sole purpose to take part in WCS Qualifiers every 2-3 months is not very viable
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 17 2019 19:48 GMT
#9
Noooooooooooooooooooo!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 17 2019 19:52 GMT
#10
End of an era
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 20:12:41
April 17 2019 19:58 GMT
#11
Ouch never expected to see the day
A lot of love to all the admin, ref and caster who bring us more Starcraft that anyone in the world over the years, it won't be the same without you.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
April 17 2019 20:43 GMT
#12
RIP, sad to see it go for the reasons Nerchio mentioned above.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
April 17 2019 20:54 GMT
#13
Damn that's sad.
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DumbestThingEver
Profile Joined April 2019
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 21:52:52
April 17 2019 21:36 GMT
#14
This is a huge loss. This was the last public tournament series where the brackets never got fixed/seeded to favor certain players. Brackets were always generated at random. It was ran properly. This is where talent developed. What a shame.

Only thing left is the "sports entertainment" style tournaments where brackets are set up in advance and in a way to favor a specific set of players(usually the incrowd). Honestly, this is what killed starcraft. You guys tried to operate as if you were above everyone and you alienated the community. Aside from Rifkin's tournies that is....

And this is why you rarely saw "new blood". The SC2 scene was not ran like a fair-for-all scene. The people in power/influence always tried to make it about popularity and views. That's not what starcraft is about. It's not about who can attract more viewers, the game is about dominating your opponent. For the last 8 years it's been a circlejerk of the same group of people(who also had friends in positions of power/influence in the scene to ensure those people could constantly "have a job"). Ya'll ruined competitive starcraft with your bs politics. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the scene was "rigged" to favor a certain set of individuals. If only you knew what the word "community" meant.

Anywho, angry rant aside, It's a shame. GO4SC2 was the original sc2 tournament series, or one of them(zotac was another).
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 17 2019 21:49 GMT
#15
Arent there alternatives in form of ProxyTempest and OSC?

Just asking
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Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany157 Posts
April 17 2019 21:57 GMT
#16
all things come to an end...
I think Go4 hasn't been too big of a tournament lately.
Alas, it was mostly fun to watch and a good start for upcoming new pros.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 17 2019 22:15 GMT
#17
Thanks for the 9 years
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ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-17 22:58:50
April 17 2019 22:56 GMT
#18
End of an era...

I'll try to play the last one and get smashed like when I was stupid enough to participate in 2011-12 :'D
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necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
April 18 2019 01:53 GMT
#19
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 18 2019 01:56 GMT
#20
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 18 2019 05:33 GMT
#21
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aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
April 18 2019 06:00 GMT
#22
very sad to see these news
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-18 07:04:13
April 18 2019 07:04 GMT
#23
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".


I guess they will, maybe we'll have another year after this one(although I wouldn't be suprised if they did a "HOTS" on this one as well right after Blizzcon 19).
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 18 2019 07:05 GMT
#24
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".

Read what Nerchio wrote, then think again, then read it again and think who's Nerchio, then read it again, then apologize for being wrong.

I don't like Nerchio especially but his insight on this issue - I agree with him.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 18 2019 07:42 GMT
#25
So with Go4 gone, what does ESL actually do for SC2 anymore, just IEM Katowice once a year? Not necessarily a good sign.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
April 18 2019 07:42 GMT
#26
On April 18 2019 16:05 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".

Read what Nerchio wrote, then think again, then read it again and think who's Nerchio, then read it again, then apologize for being wrong.

I don't like Nerchio especially but his insight on this issue - I agree with him.


Come on, let explode your joy of seeing an unholy tournament gone. It's a good news for Korean Starcraft.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 18 2019 08:10 GMT
#27
why ? sc2 is bigger then ever
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
April 18 2019 08:19 GMT
#28
Very unfortunate to see them go. Tuned in to see quite a few over the years. Thanks for everyone who made them happen.
why even
SimoN999
Profile Joined May 2012
Poland21 Posts
April 18 2019 08:26 GMT
#29
Soooooo sad :<<
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
April 18 2019 08:33 GMT
#30
This is sad. It was a sunday afternoon classic in Europe. I'll try to play that last Cup...
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-18 09:53:50
April 18 2019 09:34 GMT
#31
On April 18 2019 16:05 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".

Read what Nerchio wrote, then think again, then read it again and think who's Nerchio, then read it again, then apologize for being wrong.

I don't like Nerchio especially but his insight on this issue - I agree with him.


What Nerchio says is true and wise, what you are instead doing is not reading my whole statement. You missed "I'm sad to see it go", it's not like this is binary and I should be destroyed like someone died(or be stupidly happy for unknown reasons); if it was up to me, Go4Sc2 would have run until the end of Sc2.
Tayewo
Profile Joined December 2016
Germany28 Posts
April 18 2019 15:25 GMT
#32
Thank you for the time
Balance, it is all about balance (even in sc2 ;))
romson87
Profile Joined May 2016
Poland487 Posts
April 18 2019 16:08 GMT
#33
Damn, Zedd's gonna be really sad..everyone knows go4 > any WCS event.
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
April 18 2019 16:09 GMT
#34
I don't watch it but it is still sad to see a long-standing event going under.
[Svall]Granis
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Sweden94 Posts
April 18 2019 17:01 GMT
#35
I cant say i watched alot of it. But still sad to see it go, but as others have said...theres a ton of weekly and monthly cups,tournaments,boX etc etc.
Sundsvalls Finest
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 18 2019 17:24 GMT
#36
Sad to see that go4sc2 is being discontinued, this really sucks.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Werwolf
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation31 Posts
April 18 2019 17:27 GMT
#37
I feel so bad after that news. Sad, very sad
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4767 Posts
April 18 2019 17:42 GMT
#38
For all the years spent watching sc2 go4sc2 was always there, like some noise in the background You wont notice becuase its always there. But suddenly when its gone You notice everything is different now.
Pathetic Greta hater.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
April 18 2019 17:54 GMT
#39
Why? What's the point of taking down a great tournament?
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 18 2019 18:27 GMT
#40
End of an era, thank you for running the tournaments for so long.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27046 Posts
April 18 2019 18:28 GMT
#41
On April 18 2019 04:45 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

I think it was very good for up&comers, there is not so many tournaments where you can show yourself anymore and practicing for the sole purpose to take part in WCS Qualifiers every 2-3 months is not very viable

Pretty much, this is how all sport basically works, you need graduations in level. If a player is consistently competitive on ladder, they can then be competitive in tournies like that, then they have WCS to have a shot at if they're competitive in online tournaments.

I'm not a progamer myself and I can't really comment with any insight, Europe has had more depth in its scene than NA for most if not all of SC2, and don't think that's entirely coincidental with how many online tournaments with good players there have been ever since the early days of SC2.
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Doink
Profile Joined April 2017
75 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-18 18:48:50
April 18 2019 18:48 GMT
#42
RIP esl (for me). I won't support anything connected to them anymore.
But who cares, something better will come along made by people who actually care about the game.
Not by people who ONLY care about sponsors and money.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
April 19 2019 02:13 GMT
#43
On April 19 2019 03:48 Doink wrote:
RIP esl (for me). I won't support anything connected to them anymore.
But who cares, something better will come along made by people who actually care about the game.
Not by people who ONLY care about sponsors and money.


Come on they ran like 4 tournament a week for 9 years, that's way more than any other org. How about we don't shit of them?
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egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
April 19 2019 06:29 GMT
#44
This is really unfortunate D:
There aren't that many "low profile" tournaments on the scene and they are necessary for health of any sport
sOs TY PartinG
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
April 20 2019 18:34 GMT
#45
Ouch
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 20 2019 18:48 GMT
#46
On April 18 2019 18:34 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 16:05 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".

Read what Nerchio wrote, then think again, then read it again and think who's Nerchio, then read it again, then apologize for being wrong.

I don't like Nerchio especially but his insight on this issue - I agree with him.


What Nerchio says is true and wise, what you are instead doing is not reading my whole statement. You missed "I'm sad to see it go", it's not like this is binary and I should be destroyed like someone died(or be stupidly happy for unknown reasons); if it was up to me, Go4Sc2 would have run until the end of Sc2.

My point was it is needed, I was going against the "it's not needed"... So, to rephrase that, it is needed, you're wrong about that.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 20 2019 19:05 GMT
#47
On April 21 2019 03:48 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2019 18:34 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2019 16:05 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:56 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2019 10:53 necrosexy wrote:
On April 18 2019 03:58 Xain0n wrote:
I don't think go4sc2 is strictly needed at the moment but it's very sad to see it go.

tell me this is a joke


No, it's not a joke. Read my words literally, as "it's not like Blizzard is dropping sc2".

Read what Nerchio wrote, then think again, then read it again and think who's Nerchio, then read it again, then apologize for being wrong.

I don't like Nerchio especially but his insight on this issue - I agree with him.


What Nerchio says is true and wise, what you are instead doing is not reading my whole statement. You missed "I'm sad to see it go", it's not like this is binary and I should be destroyed like someone died(or be stupidly happy for unknown reasons); if it was up to me, Go4Sc2 would have run until the end of Sc2.

My point was it is needed, I was going against the "it's not needed"... So, to rephrase that, it is needed, you're wrong about that.


Strictly needed=essential, I am quite sure even western up and comers will find another way(not to mention Sc2 as a whole).
Thus sais, of course, it would have been much better if Go4Sc2 wasn't discontinued.
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