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HomeStory Cup XIX June 27-30

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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
April 09 2019 14:26 GMT
#1


The next HomeStory Cup will once again take place in Krefeld, Germany, June 27th to 30th.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 09 2019 14:39 GMT
#2
That's amazing, but isn't it too close to the start of Code S S2?
Will enough koreans be able or willing to participate?
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 09 2019 14:40 GMT
#3
Code S S2 will be over before HSC starts.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 14:44:21
April 09 2019 14:43 GMT
#4
Sorry, I meant Code S S3 that's scheduled to start the third of July.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 09 2019 14:53 GMT
#5
Hooray!
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 09 2019 14:55 GMT
#6
Nice! Gonna be a sick event again.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
April 09 2019 14:58 GMT
#7
Awesome =)

Most fun tournament in the world
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 09 2019 15:22 GMT
#8
Please come back to us Taeja :/
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 17:31:41
April 09 2019 17:29 GMT
#9
On April 09 2019 23:39 Xain0n wrote:
That's amazing, but isn't it too close to the start of Code S S2?
Will enough koreans be able or willing to participate?


We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 09 2019 17:35 GMT
#10
I would honestly love MC, Polt and Fantasy at HSC. For Polt I'm pretty sure it won't happen though since he still won't be in a decent condition when HSC happens.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 09 2019 18:23 GMT
#11
On April 09 2019 23:43 Xain0n wrote:
Sorry, I meant Code S S3 that's scheduled to start the third of July.


Shouldn't be a problem unless they're playing in Group A, and GSL has previously been willing to move groups around to accommodate travel.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 09 2019 18:28 GMT
#12
Awww yeahh!
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
April 09 2019 19:06 GMT
#13
Great news, already excited
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billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-09 19:32:01
April 09 2019 19:30 GMT
#14
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!
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IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
April 09 2019 19:50 GMT
#15
Always the best tournament
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 09 2019 21:29 GMT
#16
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany153 Posts
April 10 2019 02:10 GMT
#17
Best SC2 Event in the World!
HSC Hype!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 10 2019 03:04 GMT
#18
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.

They're A-tier names even if their skill is B or C tier right now at least. They have A tier legacy
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veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
75 Posts
April 10 2019 04:19 GMT
#19
Can't wait. These are always fun. Fingers crossed Take and Co can talk Mr. Bitter into returning.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 10 2019 06:04 GMT
#20
i will check if i can take holiday on 27 and 28
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 10 2019 06:05 GMT
#21
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.


no one cares to see the best players at hsc if they are boring dont drink dont have fun not evne TRY To speak english ... u can see them in any other tournament

we need koreans who are funbombs xD we need MC! xD
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 10 2019 06:43 GMT
#22
On April 10 2019 15:05 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.


no one cares to see the best players at hsc if they are boring dont drink dont have fun not evne TRY To speak english ... u can see them in any other tournament

we need koreans who are funbombs xD we need MC! xD

Except Katowice when you can see top Koreans in Europe? Just thinking...
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curutcis
Profile Joined May 2015
San Marino284 Posts
April 10 2019 07:13 GMT
#23
This news made my day! TAKE& co cudos for making this!
Luv u guyz&girlz!
GL HF...cause it's all about the FUN!!!!!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 10 2019 08:13 GMT
#24
On April 10 2019 15:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 15:05 Drake wrote:
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.



no one cares to see the best players at hsc if they are boring dont drink dont have fun not evne TRY To speak english ... u can see them in any other tournament

we need koreans who are funbombs xD we need MC! xD

Except Katowice when you can see top Koreans in Europe? Just thinking...



??? what has katowice to do with hsc ? in katowice of course u want the best ones but not in HSC there u want the fun ones, u can not compare this 2 events thats like comparing dinner with ur wife with ur midnight snack at mcdonalds
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
April 10 2019 08:49 GMT
#25
HSC usually has both good games/players aswell as fun commentary and side content. Both are important parts of it imo.

I hope I can make it again and it's time for Bunny to win it all after getting ro8 and 3rd place in the last 2!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-10 09:48:05
April 10 2019 09:25 GMT
#26
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSAAAAA

Never been to Krefeld before. Maybe this time I can finally make it :D
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 10 2019 11:52 GMT
#27
Great news!

What happened to the whole deal about having a HSC in Vegas?
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 10 2019 18:54 GMT
#28
On April 10 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news!

What happened to the whole deal about having a HSC in Vegas?


I think that's supposed to be HSCXX. As a USA person I would be ecstatic if it happened, and would drop everything and fly over!
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StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
April 10 2019 22:44 GMT
#29
I would like to see more Americas players (non Europe) this time as well.

If Take can put Serral Reynor Neeb Scarlett Maru TY Rogue and Stats (I picked four WCS and four KOR) all in for this NOW you’ve gone and made a lot of fans REALLY interested :-) (Maru and sOs were the only JinAir players who didn’t travel out in November).

*We already know Classic can’t leave Korea.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 10 2019 22:47 GMT
#30
On April 11 2019 07:44 StarcraftSquall wrote:
I would like to see more Americas players (non Europe) this time as well.

If Take can put Serral Reynor Neeb Scarlett Maru TY Rogue and Stats (I picked four WCS and four KOR) all in for this NOW you’ve gone and made a lot of fans REALLY interested :-) (Maru and sOs were the only JinAir players who didn’t travel out in November).

*We already know Classic can’t leave Korea.

people will be interested almost regardless of who gets invited, its fucking homestory cup lol
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 10 2019 23:03 GMT
#31
On April 11 2019 07:47 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 07:44 StarcraftSquall wrote:
I would like to see more Americas players (non Europe) this time as well.

If Take can put Serral Reynor Neeb Scarlett Maru TY Rogue and Stats (I picked four WCS and four KOR) all in for this NOW you’ve gone and made a lot of fans REALLY interested :-) (Maru and sOs were the only JinAir players who didn’t travel out in November).

*We already know Classic can’t leave Korea.

people will be interested almost regardless of who gets invited, its fucking homestory cup lol


It's true. Why wouldn't you try to to make it more interesting, if possible, on the other hand?

FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
April 10 2019 23:15 GMT
#32
I loved being able to attend and do balloons for a Home Story Cup!! It was amazing!! I sure hope to visit Krefeld sometime again!!

All the best to you and your amazing staff!!
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 02:30:18
April 11 2019 02:28 GMT
#33
Some really depressing comments here. I manage the invites since forever and I am kind of both personally offended and sad that some people feel that HSC has seemingly bad competition and would be fun only.

I dare say SOME HSC lineups over the last years were close to as good as possible in Starcraft without going 80% Korean and 20% foreigner.

Also it really makes me mad that people still think the players wouldn't compete full force. Anyone that thinks anyone there holds back or plays semi drunk especially in the playoffs must be crazy and has probably not visited a HSC.

We had so many GSL, IEM, Blizzcon & more champion - how can people still argue the level of HSC. HSC is easily a lot harder compared to WCS stops and has players present that can win everything each time. That includes GSL, GSL vs the World and more.

As far as US players go. They simply do not want to attend or their teams don't send them. Neeb prefers to not travel to Europe. Special won't be send by his team. Scarlett as sorry as I am to say that is kind of really hard to talk to in terms of responsiveness and all the other NA players are really overshadowed by talent in Europe.

For this HSC to give some insight I have already 4 absolute class S Koreans and conversation with more and that's only Koreans people here consider class a and with all due respect I disagree that some named here are B tier.

Anyways. As always I want to mention that while the tournament and its surroundings are fun and should be fun please never ever make the mistake to think players don't take it seriously.


Edit. Also people gotta understand that if the prize pool isn't 100000+ Maru isn't leaving Korea. Not because he is greedy but because he doesn't enjoy traveling.
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 04:01:47
April 11 2019 04:01 GMT
#34
On April 11 2019 11:28 NarutO wrote:
Some really depressing comments here. I manage the invites since forever and I am kind of both personally offended and sad that some people feel that HSC has seemingly bad competition and would be fun only.

I dare say SOME HSC lineups over the last years were close to as good as possible in Starcraft without going 80% Korean and 20% foreigner.

Also it really makes me mad that people still think the players wouldn't compete full force. Anyone that thinks anyone there holds back or plays semi drunk especially in the playoffs must be crazy and has probably not visited a HSC.

We had so many GSL, IEM, Blizzcon & more champion - how can people still argue the level of HSC. HSC is easily a lot harder compared to WCS stops and has players present that can win everything each time. That includes GSL, GSL vs the World and more.

As far as US players go. They simply do not want to attend or their teams don't send them. Neeb prefers to not travel to Europe. Special won't be send by his team. Scarlett as sorry as I am to say that is kind of really hard to talk to in terms of responsiveness and all the other NA players are really overshadowed by talent in Europe.

For this HSC to give some insight I have already 4 absolute class S Koreans and conversation with more and that's only Koreans people here consider class a and with all due respect I disagree that some named here are B tier.

Anyways. As always I want to mention that while the tournament and its surroundings are fun and should be fun please never ever make the mistake to think players don't take it seriously.

This is a great post. I can't believe people complain about stuff when they have soO literally cracking jokes in English while playing top quality starcraft. It's an experience that I hope I have if they do the Vegas thing.


Edit. Also people gotta understand that if the prize pool isn't 100000+ Maru isn't leaving Korea. Not because he is greedy but because he doesn't enjoy traveling.


I can only hope to have this experience if you guys do the Vegas thing. I can't comprehend people complaining about it.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 11 2019 07:00 GMT
#35
On April 10 2019 17:13 Drake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 15:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 10 2019 15:05 Drake wrote:
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.



no one cares to see the best players at hsc if they are boring dont drink dont have fun not evne TRY To speak english ... u can see them in any other tournament

we need koreans who are funbombs xD we need MC! xD

Except Katowice when you can see top Koreans in Europe? Just thinking...



??? what has katowice to do with hsc ? in katowice of course u want the best ones but not in HSC there u want the fun ones, u can not compare this 2 events thats like comparing dinner with ur wife with ur midnight snack at mcdonalds

That Katowice and HSC are the ONLY events where you can see top Koreans, so saying
no one cares to see the best players at hsc
is not exactly true as at least one person wants to see there the top and don't care about their drinking or English.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 11 2019 07:07 GMT
#36
On April 10 2019 17:49 DBooN wrote:
HSC usually has both good games/players aswell as fun commentary and side content. Both are important parts of it imo.

I hope I can make it again and it's time for Bunny to win it all after getting ro8 and 3rd place in the last 2!

Man I hope so, Bunny it’s been improving a lot lately
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 11 2019 09:18 GMT
#37
On April 11 2019 11:28 NarutO wrote:
Some really depressing comments here. I manage the invites since forever and I am kind of both personally offended and sad that some people feel that HSC has seemingly bad competition and would be fun only.

I dare say SOME HSC lineups over the last years were close to as good as possible in Starcraft without going 80% Korean and 20% foreigner.

Also it really makes me mad that people still think the players wouldn't compete full force. Anyone that thinks anyone there holds back or plays semi drunk especially in the playoffs must be crazy and has probably not visited a HSC.

We had so many GSL, IEM, Blizzcon & more champion - how can people still argue the level of HSC. HSC is easily a lot harder compared to WCS stops and has players present that can win everything each time. That includes GSL, GSL vs the World and more.

As far as US players go. They simply do not want to attend or their teams don't send them. Neeb prefers to not travel to Europe. Special won't be send by his team. Scarlett as sorry as I am to say that is kind of really hard to talk to in terms of responsiveness and all the other NA players are really overshadowed by talent in Europe.

For this HSC to give some insight I have already 4 absolute class S Koreans and conversation with more and that's only Koreans people here consider class a and with all due respect I disagree that some named here are B tier.

Anyways. As always I want to mention that while the tournament and its surroundings are fun and should be fun please never ever make the mistake to think players don't take it seriously.


Edit. Also people gotta understand that if the prize pool isn't 100000+ Maru isn't leaving Korea. Not because he is greedy but because he doesn't enjoy traveling.


Don't take it too hard. I think some people just associate the Drunken Master Stephano with HSC and therefore think the competition is subpar.
I mean, just look at the top 4 of last HSC

1. Serral (best foreigner and maybe best player overall at the time)
2. Innovation (Top 3 Terran in the world, won WESG)
3. Bunny ( Ro8 in GSL S1)
4. Zest ( 3 times Ro8 in GSL 2018)

Last HSC games were awesome, despite the new patch JUST beeing releasend.

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
April 11 2019 09:23 GMT
#38
HSC=best tourney, regardless of the players but even more so because of the players!

Don't let the whining/vocal minority get you down, I have yet to witness a HSC that was not the most fun tourney of the year (except for the other HSC that year of course)!
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 11 2019 10:58 GMT
#39
anyone: *tries to organize any tournament that promotes fun and community engagement*
a bunch of people, for some reason: "but the PLAYERS... they aren't ALL the BEST players... absolute trash"

viva HSC, forget haters
TL+ Member
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
April 11 2019 11:13 GMT
#40
Hope I can make it to this one!
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 11 2019 11:17 GMT
#41
On April 11 2019 11:28 NarutO wrote:
HSC is easily a lot harder compared to WCS stops and has players present that can win everything each time.


This is so very true.

Keep up the great work! HSC is an awesome event to watch every time, and there are lots of us who think so.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ferrum420
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
April 11 2019 14:27 GMT
#42
I actually don't want to see Maru if he doens't enjoy it. Bunny fits HSC much more. Not to mention soO, Inno, Zest... and I want an korean-english cast without translator :-D
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 11 2019 16:42 GMT
#43
Also for HSC 20 I can assure you that I will try my very best to make it the most brutal competition of all time.
Commentator
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 11 2019 16:49 GMT
#44
On April 12 2019 01:42 TaKeTV wrote:
Also for HSC 20 I can assure you that I will try my very best to make it the most brutal competition of all time.

A cage fight at last?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 11 2019 16:53 GMT
#45
On April 12 2019 01:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2019 01:42 TaKeTV wrote:
Also for HSC 20 I can assure you that I will try my very best to make it the most brutal competition of all time.

A cage fight at least!



fixed
Commentator
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 11 2019 17:05 GMT
#46
Don't forget shirtless Rotti commentating!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 11 2019 23:59 GMT
#47
On April 12 2019 01:42 TaKeTV wrote:
Also for HSC 20 I can assure you that I will try my very best to make it the most brutal competition of all time.

Bo1 single-elimination with no seeding.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
April 13 2019 01:43 GMT
#48
Give me TaeJa and I'm there. Well...streaming, but you get what I'm saying. If things go as planned work wise, I could be there in person. GIVE ME TAEJA!
Gekk02
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland50 Posts
April 15 2019 09:11 GMT
#49
On April 12 2019 01:42 TaKeTV wrote:
Also for HSC 20 I can assure you that I will try my very best to make it the most brutal competition of all time.


I know you will make it happen!!
Never trouble trouble 'till trouble troubles you
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 15 2019 09:29 GMT
#50
HSC is hands down the best tournament to watch since WCS has been segregated. Not sure if I will come (would be worth it only if I can convince some friends to join) but definitely will try to watch, despite somewhat having to be on July 2 already in Chile
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 26 2019 11:19 GMT
#51
Any news on player pool?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 12:30:44
April 26 2019 12:25 GMT
#52
Can we get the holy five of the best awkward cast ever? Rum, coke, 2GD, iNcontrol and Apollo, please? At least the Apollo part, please (I would love to see Apollo on the couch again)

Edit> I expect rum, coke and Goeff to be there
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 26 2019 12:40 GMT
#53
On April 26 2019 21:25 deacon.frost wrote:
Can we get the holy five of the best awkward cast ever? Rum, coke, 2GD, iNcontrol and Apollo, please? At least the Apollo part, please (I would love to see Apollo on the couch again)

Edit> I expect rum, coke and Goeff to be there


I think Rum, Coke and Kebab are always the first and most important invites :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
April 26 2019 13:43 GMT
#54
On April 11 2019 11:28 NarutO wrote:
I manage the invites since forever and I am kind of both personally offended and sad that some people feel that HSC has seemingly bad competition and would be fun only.



No idea what you're talking about. Most of us definitely realize HSC is very competitive and not just for fun. You'll always have some people who believe stupid things about anything.

Anyway hope we have one of the best lineups ever this time =)
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
May 03 2019 09:07 GMT
#55
On April 26 2019 20:19 Harris1st wrote:
Any news on player pool?


Bumbedibumb

Also I just noticed I am invited to a wedding on the other side of Germany. Damn you normal people who have their life together
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 04 2019 08:14 GMT
#56
I'm sorry if I am annoying but this is in about 3 weeks. Time to start the hype train? Gimme some news
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 04 2019 08:57 GMT
#57
I don't know any of the players but I'm already HYPED
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
June 04 2019 09:16 GMT
#58
HSC has the best format of any tourney, bar none. 8-player groups with round-robin Bo3, with Bo5 dual-tournament playoffs. Makes the GSL or Global Finals look like a dice roll by comparison.
As for depth and breadth of field, HSC 18 was like a GSL Ro8 mixed with the top of WCS, and easily one of the best tourneys around. It had a stronger field than WCS Spring '19. HSC had four Jin Air Green Wings players and none finished in the top 8 of the group phase. GSL Season 2 '19 had five JAGW (incl Maru) and only one (Trap) reached Ro8 (Trap was T13th-16th in HSC).
I love the personalities of the players in HSC, give me Solar on the mic any day, some analysis from Lambo, or some humble, dry, boring commentary from Serral. It seems to be better for great casting with players right at hand for interviews after matches.
Bring HSC to the US!
DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
June 04 2019 09:57 GMT
#59
On April 10 2019 12:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2019 06:29 Boggyb wrote:
On April 10 2019 04:30 billynasty wrote:
On April 10 2019 02:29 ShowTheLights wrote:
We'll probably get the B-list of Koreans again

Bunny, Polt, Impact, MC, True, Fantasy, Alive, those level of Koreans

Please don't get offended these are just koreans I pulled from the top of my head

Now that I think about it

MC at a homestory cup again?!!??!? MAKE THIS HAPPEN TAKE


B-list Koreans again? What like last year? With Innovation, Zest, Trap, Cure, Solar & Soo?
Or Patience, Parting, MMA? Or maybe you meant Stats, Byun or Gumiho.

Point being over the past couple years HSC has had some pretty good Korean's playing. Hardly those who i'd consider B-listers. If history is any indicator Take will bring the best he can get. Every year before the event some people will comment that so & so isn't there & every year HSC ends up being one of the best events of the year.
I have no doubt that this HSC will be amazing as well... can't wait!

I don't agree with the criticism as HSC gets the best players it can, but Patience, Parting, and MMA are very much B-list Koreans.

They're A-tier names even if their skill is B or C tier right now at least. They have A tier legacy


And parting can still crown himself A-tier if he wins this GSL.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 05 2019 04:21 GMT
#60
Man, I can't wait for this. Hyped already!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 05 2019 05:02 GMT
#61
Hyped for the Korean casting in English without a translator
Mine gas, build tanks.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 06 2019 13:53 GMT
#62
Still no news? Nothing on Twitter
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 06 2019 14:00 GMT
#63
On June 06 2019 22:53 Harris1st wrote:
Still no news? Nothing on Twitter


Player announcements started three weeks before last HSC, I think we'll start to have them by the next Monday.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 06 2019 16:42 GMT
#64
On June 06 2019 22:53 Harris1st wrote:
Still no news? Nothing on Twitter


why even
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 06 2019 16:47 GMT
#65
Always love it when the tweets start coming. I wonder how many Koreans will be there, usually not as many as during the Winter edition.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 06 2019 16:54 GMT
#66
lineup T_T;
Commentator
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
June 06 2019 17:22 GMT
#67
thank you for home story cup <3
"not enough rights"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 06 2019 17:31 GMT
#68
On June 07 2019 01:54 TaKeTV wrote:
lineup T_T;


What does that mean
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
June 06 2019 19:00 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2019 11:28 NarutO wrote:
Some really depressing comments here. I manage the invites since forever and I am kind of both personally offended and sad that some people feel that HSC has seemingly bad competition and would be fun only.

I dare say SOME HSC lineups over the last years were close to as good as possible in Starcraft without going 80% Korean and 20% foreigner.

Also it really makes me mad that people still think the players wouldn't compete full force. Anyone that thinks anyone there holds back or plays semi drunk especially in the playoffs must be crazy and has probably not visited a HSC.

We had so many GSL, IEM, Blizzcon & more champion - how can people still argue the level of HSC. HSC is easily a lot harder compared to WCS stops and has players present that can win everything each time. That includes GSL, GSL vs the World and more.

As far as US players go. They simply do not want to attend or their teams don't send them. Neeb prefers to not travel to Europe. Special won't be send by his team. Scarlett as sorry as I am to say that is kind of really hard to talk to in terms of responsiveness and all the other NA players are really overshadowed by talent in Europe.

For this HSC to give some insight I have already 4 absolute class S Koreans and conversation with more and that's only Koreans people here consider class a and with all due respect I disagree that some named here are B tier.

Anyways. As always I want to mention that while the tournament and its surroundings are fun and should be fun please never ever make the mistake to think players don't take it seriously.


Edit. Also people gotta understand that if the prize pool isn't 100000+ Maru isn't leaving Korea. Not because he is greedy but because he doesn't enjoy traveling.


HSC has been my favorite tournament for a long time now. I always have the most fun watching people compete in this atmosphere that you guys create. It truly warms my heart, when it feels as much about camaraderie as competition. It is a very unique offering, and TakeTv is the only place to find it. LOVE IT.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 07 2019 08:36 GMT
#70
Yes! Finally! HYYYPPUUU
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland402 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-07 09:04:04
June 07 2019 08:56 GMT
#71
I really like format and atmosphere of HSC. The format is probably the best with only downside that event last less than a week. I think that even GSL could be better with this format if it still lasted least as long as currently. Only perceived significance of each match would be lower.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
I Yngvi I
Profile Joined October 2013
Netherlands5 Posts
June 07 2019 09:02 GMT
#72
One of my favourite events of the year, great to see you're making it happen again!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 07 2019 19:16 GMT
#73
why even
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 07 2019 19:31 GMT
#74
On June 07 2019 01:54 TaKeTV wrote:
lineup T_T;


I don't care if the lineup is incontrol playing against poopfeast 420

you can bet i'll be watching
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
June 10 2019 22:29 GMT
#75
Cant wait for this event.

Please guys get Dark there :D
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3384 Posts
June 10 2019 22:34 GMT
#76
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 09:40:30
June 11 2019 09:39 GMT
#77
GIMME MOOOOAAAR :D

Showtime and BigGabe surely
Solar? Please please please. And MC! We need MC


Edit: Stephano? No way Stephano would decline
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 11 2019 11:52 GMT
#78
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 12:39:38
June 11 2019 12:39 GMT
#79
On June 11 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!


I agree! I am expecting Inno and Bunny, at least.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 11 2019 17:21 GMT
#80
why even
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 11 2019 17:43 GMT
#81
Serral at HSC again, amazing!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 11 2019 18:36 GMT
#82
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 11 2019 18:42 GMT
#83
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 19:30:33
June 11 2019 19:28 GMT
#84
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.

You'd rather see 2 base all-ins than macro games?

Sadly no way to get Classic who seems to be a league of his own in terms of Protoss atm. If they didn't let him leave the country for Katowice he's not going to HSC either. I figure the Protoss line-up will be similar to last time.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 20:06:59
June 11 2019 20:05 GMT
#85
On June 12 2019 04:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.

You'd rather see 2 base all-ins than macro games?

Sadly no way to get Classic who seems to be a league of his own in terms of Protoss atm. If they didn't let him leave the country for Katowice he's not going to HSC either. I figure the Protoss line-up will be similar to last time.


I am more interested in Serral try to solve ZvP considering korean Zerg aren't doing that well in the matchup; TvZ is more enjoyable to watch in this meta, for sure.

I don't see how Classic should be head and shoulders above the other korean Protoss, he is more like a Primus Inter Pares.
Trap is now a much stronger player than he was, he would be a serious contender for the title.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 11 2019 21:06 GMT
#86
Other than Trap I don't even see a case for any Protoss to be considered close to Classic atm. And even the gap between Trap and Classic is not qualifying for the Super Tournament vs winning it pretty convincingly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 11 2019 21:22 GMT
#87
On June 12 2019 06:06 Elentos wrote:
Other than Trap I don't even see a case for any Protoss to be considered close to Classic atm. And even the gap between Trap and Classic is not qualifying for the Super Tournament vs winning it pretty convincingly.


Result wise it is as you say, but Classic isn't playing so much better than its peers as you would suggest.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 21:33:42
June 11 2019 21:30 GMT
#88
On June 12 2019 06:22 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 06:06 Elentos wrote:
Other than Trap I don't even see a case for any Protoss to be considered close to Classic atm. And even the gap between Trap and Classic is not qualifying for the Super Tournament vs winning it pretty convincingly.


Result wise it is as you say, but Classic isn't playing so much better than its peers as you would suggest.

He has to be doing something way better than everyone else to be so far ahead on results. And that something is what wins him money, not anyone's impression of whether or not his play looks better or not.

But I disagree with you on the eye test anywyay. I think there's a noticeable gap between Classic and the non-Trap Protosses. herO? Classic's play is way sharper. Stats and Dear aren't really in great shape right now (Dear had a pretty drastic drop-off between Ro32 and Ro16 honestly). Patience, PartinG and Hurricane? Yeah, no.

Zest in Olimoleague maybe.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 11 2019 22:11 GMT
#89
On June 12 2019 06:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 06:22 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 06:06 Elentos wrote:
Other than Trap I don't even see a case for any Protoss to be considered close to Classic atm. And even the gap between Trap and Classic is not qualifying for the Super Tournament vs winning it pretty convincingly.


Result wise it is as you say, but Classic isn't playing so much better than its peers as you would suggest.

He has to be doing something way better than everyone else to be so far ahead on results. And that something is what wins him money, not anyone's impression of whether or not his play looks better or not.

But I disagree with you on the eye test anywyay. I think there's a noticeable gap between Classic and the non-Trap Protosses. herO? Classic's play is way sharper. Stats and Dear aren't really in great shape right now (Dear had a pretty drastic drop-off between Ro32 and Ro16 honestly). Patience, PartinG and Hurricane? Yeah, no.

Zest in Olimoleague maybe.


I am not especially impressed by Classic's play. Overall he is the best Protoss in Korea at the moment but he isn't much better than the others in PvP(and managed to avoid Zest and Stats) , he is sharp but seems to cheese every in PvZ and he has been shaky in PvT(he just didn't get to play it a lot but he didn't do great against Maru, Gumiho and Inno). I don't share the opinion Classic is so much better than any Protoss.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 11 2019 22:27 GMT
#90
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-11 23:57:14
June 11 2019 23:57 GMT
#91
On June 12 2019 07:27 NinjaNight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.


Serral has been eating Protoss for breakfast for one entire year; recently we didn't get to see him against anyone better than Showtime. I am, too confident he would win.

In any of case, once Serral is in, top koreans are mandatory, no matter the race they play!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 12 2019 07:57 GMT
#92
On June 12 2019 07:27 NinjaNight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.


With Dark beeing the best Zerg at the moment, I don't think great Zergs are a challenge. Serral has Dark's number like nobody else.
Terrans are in somewhat of a slump right now, but Inno, TY or GuMi have proven that they can play with the best.
Classic and Trap at HSC would be a dream come true :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 12 2019 13:46 GMT
#93
On June 12 2019 16:57 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 07:27 NinjaNight wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.


With Dark beeing the best Zerg at the moment, I don't think great Zergs are a challenge. Serral has Dark's number like nobody else.
Terrans are in somewhat of a slump right now, but Inno, TY or GuMi have proven that they can play with the best.
Classic and Trap at HSC would be a dream come true :D


soO straight up went toe to toe with Serral and beat him in a long series at IEM. Reynor defeated Serral at WCS. He's definitely vulnerable in ZvZ. Reynor can't consistently beat Serral but I think soO could, soO and Serral seem legitimately pretty evenly matched.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 12 2019 14:24 GMT
#94
On June 12 2019 16:57 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 07:27 NinjaNight wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.


With Dark beeing the best Zerg at the moment, I don't think great Zergs are a challenge. Serral has Dark's number like nobody else.
Terrans are in somewhat of a slump right now, but Inno, TY or GuMi have proven that they can play with the best.
Classic and Trap at HSC would be a dream come true :D

Classic can't.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 12 2019 14:28 GMT
#95
HSC for me is more about fun and random bullshitting on the couch,

Sure it would be nice if they got all the top tier players in the world but it's not a deal breaker if they don't.
Zerg for Life
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 12 2019 15:00 GMT
#96
On June 12 2019 22:46 NinjaNight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2019 16:57 Harris1st wrote:
On June 12 2019 07:27 NinjaNight wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:42 Xain0n wrote:
On June 12 2019 03:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Great news about Serral coming. All the more reason to get some top KR Terrans


I think it would be more interesting to see top KR Protoss playing against Serral, at the moment.


I don't think so, I think he takes out any protoss relatively easily. The terrans or even great zergs should be more challenging and interesting.


With Dark beeing the best Zerg at the moment, I don't think great Zergs are a challenge. Serral has Dark's number like nobody else.
Terrans are in somewhat of a slump right now, but Inno, TY or GuMi have proven that they can play with the best.
Classic and Trap at HSC would be a dream come true :D


soO straight up went toe to toe with Serral and beat him in a long series at IEM. Reynor defeated Serral at WCS. He's definitely vulnerable in ZvZ. Reynor can't consistently beat Serral but I think soO could, soO and Serral seem legitimately pretty evenly matched.


I still think WCS Winter was more of a slump from Serral than Reynor actually outplaying him (or a bit of both)
soO has a shot at defeating Serral for sure, but I think his ZvP and ZvT are not top notch right now which might result in an early exit before meeting Serral. Though in his defense he mostly lost to Classic if I recall correctly
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3384 Posts
June 12 2019 16:23 GMT
#97
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 13 2019 16:16 GMT
#98
On June 11 2019 21:39 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!


I agree! I am expecting Inno and Bunny, at least.


INno declined.
Commentator
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 13 2019 17:02 GMT
#99
why even
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 13 2019 17:04 GMT
#100
On June 14 2019 02:02 D-light wrote:
https://twitter.com/TaKeTV/status/1139200758035861504


Very good! I wish for a Serral vs soO rematch!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 13 2019 19:24 GMT
#101
soO hype!!

On June 14 2019 01:16 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2019 21:39 Xain0n wrote:
On June 11 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!


I agree! I am expecting Inno and Bunny, at least.


INno declined.


That sucks What about TY?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 13 2019 19:27 GMT
#102
Wowww serral vs soo rematch incoming
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 13 2019 19:37 GMT
#103
On June 14 2019 04:24 sneakyfox wrote:
soO hype!!

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2019 01:16 TaKeTV wrote:
On June 11 2019 21:39 Xain0n wrote:
On June 11 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!


I agree! I am expecting Inno and Bunny, at least.


INno declined.


That sucks What about TY?

Path is clear for soO!
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 14 2019 08:45 GMT
#104
On June 14 2019 01:16 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2019 21:39 Xain0n wrote:
On June 11 2019 20:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Would be fantastic to see TY at HSC again, especially since his English skills have improved so much lately!


I agree! I am expecting Inno and Bunny, at least.


INno declined.


Oh noes

Really happy that soO is coming though
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 14 2019 12:53 GMT
#105
Why would Inno decline? O.o
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
June 14 2019 14:00 GMT
#106
On June 14 2019 21:53 NinjaNight wrote:
Why would Inno decline? O.o

Yeah, this is bogus
don't wall off against random
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-14 16:11:00
June 14 2019 16:10 GMT
#107
Solar!

why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
June 14 2019 17:45 GMT
#108
On June 15 2019 01:10 D-light wrote:
Solar!

https://twitter.com/TaKeTV/status/1139563145918177280

Bunny!
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 14 2019 18:01 GMT
#109
Looking like a nice lineup anyway =)
MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
June 14 2019 20:04 GMT
#110
Solar is doing well in Chinese proleague. Hope he will perform at HSC
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
June 14 2019 20:47 GMT
#111
On June 15 2019 01:10 D-light wrote:
Solar!

https://twitter.com/TaKeTV/status/1139563145918177280

bogus s out they better bring in taeja
General1330
Profile Joined May 2019
8 Posts
June 14 2019 20:58 GMT
#112
It will be cool to add a chinese player to hsc that would be fun.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 14 2019 21:22 GMT
#113
On June 15 2019 05:47 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2019 01:10 D-light wrote:
Solar!

https://twitter.com/TaKeTV/status/1139563145918177280

bogus s out they better bring in taeja

Is Taeja still playing? According to Aligulac, he hasn't played in a tournament since GSL season 2 qualifiers on April 13th. I can't see why he wouldn't have been playing things like Olimoleague the previous two months if he were still active.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 15 2019 15:16 GMT
#114
Taeja accepted the invite and cancelled later due to reoccuring wrist issues / pain.
Commentator
Tayewo
Profile Joined December 2016
Germany28 Posts
June 16 2019 09:47 GMT
#115
This lineup looks so awesome...thx
Balance, it is all about balance (even in sc2 ;))
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25273 Posts
June 16 2019 14:07 GMT
#116
So pumped for this, lineup is really good anyway, plus that unique HSC flavour
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 16 2019 14:51 GMT
#117
Man, this one will be so good, love the talent lineup as usual! Just sad that I can't be there in person.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 16 2019 15:26 GMT
#118
Starcraft holiday season is almost upon us
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 16 2019 15:40 GMT
#119
Would be cool to invite TIME at some point in time. :D
very illegal and very uncool
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 16 2019 16:19 GMT
#120
On June 17 2019 00:40 argonautdice wrote:
Would be cool to invite TIME at some point in time. :D


he declined
Commentator
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2019 16:42 GMT
#121
Is Tod now just a caster or does he still play the game? I thought he moved to WC3, maybe I mixed him with somebody el;se.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
IncarnatioN_
Profile Joined April 2018
Russian Federation38 Posts
June 17 2019 03:16 GMT
#122
Is Tod now just a caster or does he still play the game? I thought he moved to WC3, maybe I mixed him with somebody el;se.

He still casts SC2 but plays only war3
2020 is the year of terrans (i hope)
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 17 2019 07:32 GMT
#123
On June 17 2019 12:16 IncarnatioN_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is Tod now just a caster or does he still play the game? I thought he moved to WC3, maybe I mixed him with somebody el;se.

He still casts SC2 but plays only war3

So he moved only his player persona, mkey, thanks.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 17 2019 08:40 GMT
#124
Nice caster lineup!

Haven't heard about Mapu yet, hope he is as fun as the other guys.
Loved the commentating from Lowko at the last HSC
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 17 2019 09:37 GMT
#125
On June 17 2019 17:40 Harris1st wrote:
Nice caster lineup!

Haven't heard about Mapu yet, hope he is as fun as the other guys.
Loved the commentating from Lowko at the last HSC


Mapu is observing, as he has done many times
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 17 2019 09:46 GMT
#126
On June 17 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2019 17:40 Harris1st wrote:
Nice caster lineup!

Haven't heard about Mapu yet, hope he is as fun as the other guys.
Loved the commentating from Lowko at the last HSC


Mapu is observing, as he has done many times


Oh my bad. Observers don't get enough credit!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-18 08:16:28
June 18 2019 08:16 GMT
#127
Year of Harstem has finally arrived!!

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 18 2019 16:02 GMT
#128
seriously, this one is way too good for a summer HSC

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 18 2019 16:19 GMT
#129
Feels like we've seen barely any TY this year. Hopefully this time he doesn't lose his gear on the way there.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 18 2019 16:56 GMT
#130
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 18 2019 17:00 GMT
#131
Well, Inno won't come but at least there is TY!
freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
June 18 2019 17:01 GMT
#132
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.



has dark been denied yet?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 18 2019 17:09 GMT
#133
So sick players, going to be really fun.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 18 2019 17:25 GMT
#134
T A E Y A N G

HYPUUUUUU!!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 18 2019 17:58 GMT
#135
TY!??? Dayum


also marinelord hype
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 19 2019 11:56 GMT
#136
On June 19 2019 02:01 freelifeffs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.



has dark been denied yet?


I don't think so.
Also some Kr Protosses would be nice! Trap? $o§? Dear? Patience? her0?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
June 19 2019 12:42 GMT
#137
HSC being awesome as always
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 19 2019 14:31 GMT
#138
We are getting closer and closer to IEM/ Blizzcon level of player quality, but with more Kebab!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 20 2019 10:26 GMT
#139
why even
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 20 2019 10:59 GMT
#140
Who doesn't love Bly, his variety of cheese strats is extraordinarily big for a zerg player.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 20 2019 13:12 GMT
#141
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.


Nice theory but I actually just was too busy keeping my streak on TaKeTV and started my own streak as well. In case people here are not aware, saturday I will be on my 150th day of Starcraft straight ! Happy you guys like the lineup.

I just made and posted the groups the players. Groups are kinda brutal again. Lineup could have been better but for Summer its always a bit harder to get the full lineup together.
Commentator
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
June 20 2019 13:12 GMT
#142
On June 19 2019 02:01 freelifeffs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.



has dark been denied yet?


Yes, I have confirmed Dark won't be attending. I was in conversation with him / his team but he decided to focus on GSL and preparation for it this time.
Commentator
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 20 2019 13:27 GMT
#143
On June 20 2019 22:12 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.


Nice theory but I actually just was too busy keeping my streak on TaKeTV and started my own streak as well. In case people here are not aware, saturday I will be on my 150th day of Starcraft straight ! Happy you guys like the lineup.

I just made and posted the groups the players. Groups are kinda brutal again. Lineup could have been better but for Summer its always a bit harder to get the full lineup together.


You just released the full lineup with groups? On Twitter?

Dark, being already qualified for Code S S3 and having essentially locked his BlizzCon spot, wasted a golden occasion to go to HSC, that's a pity!
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-20 17:45:54
June 20 2019 16:21 GMT
#144


On June 20 2019 22:12 TaKeTV wrote:
saturday I will be on my 150th day of Starcraft straight !


Thanks for this also.
why even
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 20 2019 16:36 GMT
#145
On June 20 2019 22:12 TaKeTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.


Nice theory but I actually just was too busy keeping my streak on TaKeTV and started my own streak as well. In case people here are not aware, saturday I will be on my 150th day of Starcraft straight ! Happy you guys like the lineup.

I just made and posted the groups the players. Groups are kinda brutal again. Lineup could have been better but for Summer its always a bit harder to get the full lineup together.


Congratz on (almost) 150 days of Starcraft!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-20 16:42:29
June 20 2019 16:42 GMT
#146
On June 20 2019 22:27 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2019 22:12 TaKeTV wrote:
On June 19 2019 01:56 Elentos wrote:
Well since people have been asking for TY page after page and it was like the only name NarutO didn't deny I guess we should have seen it coming.


Nice theory but I actually just was too busy keeping my streak on TaKeTV and started my own streak as well. In case people here are not aware, saturday I will be on my 150th day of Starcraft straight ! Happy you guys like the lineup.

I just made and posted the groups the players. Groups are kinda brutal again. Lineup could have been better but for Summer its always a bit harder to get the full lineup together.


You just released the full lineup with groups? On Twitter?

Dark, being already qualified for Code S S3 and having essentially locked his BlizzCon spot, wasted a golden occasion to go to HSC, that's a pity!

I think it's more about that he can spend time preparing for his first GSL final, or getting ready to travel to Germany. The choice in my opinion is pretty clear.

Edit: to be clear, I'd have absolutely loved to see Dark at a HSC, but I absolutely understand why he elected not to.
Trans Rights
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 21 2019 20:43 GMT
#147
Are the announcements a little late? Six days before the last HSC only two players were yet to be revealed, now we are apparently at 20/32. I am impatient
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 21 2019 20:47 GMT
#148
why even
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-22 16:01:58
June 22 2019 16:01 GMT
#149


Stats coming! This is so sick
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-23 18:28:07
June 23 2019 17:15 GMT
#150


Sad news . A speedy recovery to Geoff, health comes first, but this HSC will be very different without him.

Edit: Damn it's even worse than he thought...

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 23 2019 17:47 GMT
#151
Oh no, that's sad. Incontrol is the best at the consistent shit-"posting" required to sit on the HSC couch for so many hours straight. He'll be missed.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
June 23 2019 18:13 GMT
#152
Noooo!

Dammit, I was so looking forward to Geoff being at HSC. At least he's getting medical help asap. Let's hope he gets much better.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
June 23 2019 18:36 GMT
#153
Shit. Get better InControl.
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 23 2019 18:50 GMT
#154
On June 24 2019 02:15 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/iNcontroLTV/status/1142832226364583936

Sad news . A speedy recovery to Geoff, health comes first, but this HSC will be very different without him.

Edit: Damn it's even worse than he thought...

https://twitter.com/iNcontroLTV/status/1142856033687048192

Yeah, what a joke his luck when he just went in with "an infection" and by sheer coincidence it was discovered it's something worse.

C'mon, Goeff, this was on the better side of the luck - fubar scale
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
June 23 2019 21:29 GMT
#155
Hope you get well soon Incontrol, you will be missed at HSC. No Incontrol introductions, that is sad
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 23 2019 21:43 GMT
#156
That suuuuucks. Get well soon Geoff.
Mine gas, build tanks.
burnturn
Profile Joined December 2015
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-24 02:03:09
June 24 2019 02:02 GMT
#157
Besides Tastosis, I think my favorite caster combo is PiG and Incontrol. Really sad to not see him at HSC.
sOs is best
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 24 2019 12:31 GMT
#158
LP says 29/32

3 days to go! HYYYYYPUUUU
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 24 2019 13:45 GMT
#159
On June 24 2019 21:31 Harris1st wrote:
LP says 29/32

3 days to go! HYYYYYPUUUU


Yea, we missed the announcement of Has and souL.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 24 2019 13:55 GMT
#160
On June 24 2019 03:50 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2019 02:15 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/iNcontroLTV/status/1142832226364583936

Sad news . A speedy recovery to Geoff, health comes first, but this HSC will be very different without him.

Edit: Damn it's even worse than he thought...

https://twitter.com/iNcontroLTV/status/1142856033687048192

Yeah, what a joke his luck when he just went in with "an infection" and by sheer coincidence it was discovered it's something worse.

C'mon, Goeff, this was on the better side of the luck - fubar scale


Doesn't even sound like bad luck. Something is wrong, too consistent that he has these issues.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 25 2019 00:06 GMT
#161
Meanwhile, HateMe has been added to the lineup of the incoming SwarmStory Cup
We are just missing two Protoss now for perfect racial distribution(I have to underline that Germany is in EU):Gungfubanda and Mana? Goblin and Skillous?
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
June 25 2019 03:20 GMT
#162
I mean, if the purpose of this thread is wild speculation to hype an event, then I'll guess:

We had four Jin Air players in HSC18, and we need two protoss. Trap might be too busy to avenge his GSL loss and 13-16th place in HSC 18, but Creator was 17-20th in HSC 18, and he plus sOs could really use the practice before GSL Season 3 given their Ro32 Season 2 showings.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-25 06:45:21
June 25 2019 06:43 GMT
#163


Last 2?


I guess this HSC will be played on Char ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 25 2019 11:11 GMT
#164
On June 25 2019 09:06 Xain0n wrote:
Meanwhile, HateMe has been added to the lineup of the incoming SwarmStory Cup
We are just missing two Protoss now for perfect racial distribution(I have to underline that Germany is in EU):Gungfubanda and Mana? Goblin and Skillous?

All those Protoss players were invited but couldn't come or declinded. Not sure about skillous though.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 25 2019 11:16 GMT
#165
On June 25 2019 15:43 Harris1st wrote:
I guess this HSC will be played on Char ^^

It's hot enough in Germany that it may as well be Char at this point.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 25 2019 13:49 GMT
#166
It's sad that Incontrol can't come and that it was so tough to get 32 players coming to the event, however the lineup is still sick and the event is sure to be fun again.
naughtDE
Profile Blog Joined May 2019
158 Posts
June 25 2019 14:14 GMT
#167
I can't find HSC in the Upcoming Events side bar on TL
"I'll take [LET IT SNOW] for 800" - Sean Connery (Darrell Hammond)
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 25 2019 14:15 GMT
#168
On June 25 2019 22:49 HolydaKing wrote:
It's sad that Incontrol can't come and that it was so tough to get 32 players coming to the event, however the lineup is still sick and the event is sure to be fun again.


The lineup is good but it isn't complete yet. I'm very curious to see who the last two players will be!
RDO
Profile Joined July 2014
Italy60 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-25 14:56:48
June 25 2019 14:46 GMT
#169
On June 25 2019 23:15 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2019 22:49 HolydaKing wrote:
It's sad that Incontrol can't come and that it was so tough to get 32 players coming to the event, however the lineup is still sick and the event is sure to be fun again.


The lineup is good but it isn't complete yet. I'm very curious to see who the last two players will be!


Last three afaik, unfortunately MarineLord canceled his partecipation a few hours ago.

Edit: DnS is the replacement for MarineLord.
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
June 25 2019 17:23 GMT
#170
On June 25 2019 23:14 naughtDE wrote:
I can't find HSC in the Upcoming Events side bar on TL


You're just overlooking it. It's right there, I see it.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 26 2019 04:30 GMT
#171
so not only is this gonna be a Zerg fest (ZvZ most boring matchup imo) but also incontrol is gonna be absent

shiiiet
TL+ Member
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 26 2019 08:53 GMT
#172
On June 26 2019 13:30 BerserkSword wrote:
so not only is this gonna be a Zerg fest (ZvZ most boring matchup imo) but also incontrol is gonna be absent

shiiiet


I think ZvZ is fun because it is so damn volatile. Every baneling can decide a game. It's like watching a penalty shootout xD
Agreed the roach phase aka midgame is a bit boring though
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 26 2019 09:55 GMT
#173
On June 26 2019 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 13:30 BerserkSword wrote:
so not only is this gonna be a Zerg fest (ZvZ most boring matchup imo) but also incontrol is gonna be absent

shiiiet


I think ZvZ is fun because it is so damn volatile. Every baneling can decide a game. It's like watching a penalty shootout xD
Agreed the roach phase aka midgame is a bit boring though

I think for many it's simialr to the old PvP from the beginning of LotV. Watching the tennis with kamikaze balls was fun for first few games, than it became kinda all the time the same. IMO
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2019 10:17 GMT
#174
On June 26 2019 17:53 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 13:30 BerserkSword wrote:
so not only is this gonna be a Zerg fest (ZvZ most boring matchup imo) but also incontrol is gonna be absent

shiiiet


I think ZvZ is fun because it is so damn volatile. Every baneling can decide a game. It's like watching a penalty shootout xD
Agreed the roach phase aka midgame is a bit boring though


Roach fights best fights.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 26 2019 10:59 GMT
#175
On other news: This is supposed to start tomorrow right? Some sort of timetable would be appreciated
And groups! We need groups to get some hype going!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-26 11:09:40
June 26 2019 11:09 GMT
#176
On June 26 2019 19:59 Harris1st wrote:
On other news: This is supposed to start tomorrow right? Some sort of timetable would be appreciated
And groups! We need groups to get some hype going!


Not to mention there is one unknown korean Protoss to be announced alongside one unknown Terran!
There are timetables on Liquipedia.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 26 2019 11:19 GMT
#177
On June 26 2019 20:09 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 19:59 Harris1st wrote:
On other news: This is supposed to start tomorrow right? Some sort of timetable would be appreciated
And groups! We need groups to get some hype going!


Not to mention there is one unknown korean Protoss to be announced alongside one unknown Terran!
There are timetables on Liquipedia.


Nice! The first match of the day will be the best. Can't wait to see TBD vs TBD!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
June 26 2019 11:23 GMT
#178
On June 26 2019 20:09 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 19:59 Harris1st wrote:
On other news: This is supposed to start tomorrow right? Some sort of timetable would be appreciated
And groups! We need groups to get some hype going!


Not to mention there is one unknown korean Protoss to be announced alongside one unknown Terran!
There are timetables on Liquipedia.


Which korean toss had good english? That way we can get a good korenglish cast with TY, Solar + toss.
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands677 Posts
June 26 2019 12:16 GMT
#179
Get well soon, Sir Geoffrey!

Maybe get MCanning as last minute replacement?
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 26 2019 12:19 GMT
#180
The groups are on Liquipedia now. Not too pumped for group A, but the other groups have some juicy stuff. Group D in HSC has a potential match from group D in GSL too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-26 12:55:45
June 26 2019 12:22 GMT
#181
There we goooooo!!




Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 26 2019 12:23 GMT
#182
Lol I just remembered last HSC when the group order before and after was nearly the same. Let's see if it happens again :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2019 12:44 GMT
#183
On June 26 2019 21:19 Elentos wrote:
The groups are on Liquipedia now. Not too pumped for group A, but the other groups have some juicy stuff. Group D in HSC has a potential match from group D in GSL too.


Group A is the one I like the most, actually: Solar vs Reynor and Lambo, Clem ascending, flaming lips and Creator!
Serral vs Stats is great but someway repetitive, wanted to see our Night King against TY(or soO).
Group C is fine while I'm not really excited about Group D.

Creator and Inzane were the last two invites.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 26 2019 12:46 GMT
#184
On June 26 2019 21:44 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 21:19 Elentos wrote:
The groups are on Liquipedia now. Not too pumped for group A, but the other groups have some juicy stuff. Group D in HSC has a potential match from group D in GSL too.


Group A is the one I like the most, actually: Solar vs Reynor and Lambo, Clem ascending, flaming lips and Creator!
Serral vs Stats is great but someway repetitive, wanted to see our Night King against TY(or soO).
Group C is fine while I'm not really excited about Group D.

Creator and Inzane were the last two invites.

Group A has no players I particularly care to watch. And the big matches are reserved for playoffs anyway.

Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 26 2019 12:51 GMT
#185
May I suggest "Scan-Demon"?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 26 2019 12:53 GMT
#186
On June 26 2019 21:51 DBooN wrote:
May I suggest "Scan-Demon"?

Wolf's mad ramblings hardly make for real nicknames! People actually call Serral Night King and it's absolutely cringeworthy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 26 2019 13:00 GMT
#187
Better nickname would be something with his recent golf endeavors. Hydra Woods or Tiger Creepspread. Just not as shitty as my ideas
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2019 13:05 GMT
#188
On June 26 2019 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 21:44 Xain0n wrote:
On June 26 2019 21:19 Elentos wrote:
The groups are on Liquipedia now. Not too pumped for group A, but the other groups have some juicy stuff. Group D in HSC has a potential match from group D in GSL too.


Group A is the one I like the most, actually: Solar vs Reynor and Lambo, Clem ascending, flaming lips and Creator!
Serral vs Stats is great but someway repetitive, wanted to see our Night King against TY(or soO).
Group C is fine while I'm not really excited about Group D.

Creator and Inzane were the last two invites.

Group A has no players I particularly care to watch. And the big matches are reserved for playoffs anyway.

Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.


Totally different tastes and opinions, I guess. Inzane is the player I like the least in Group A while souL is the one I root the most for in Group D.

Since Serral had to play at least one korean, I'd have preferred not to see him against Stats; Night King is a very cool nickname if you ask me.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-26 13:10:12
June 26 2019 13:09 GMT
#189
Yeah, I'm with Elentos on that one. Night King was already bad before the last GOT season, but now it's even worse
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-26 13:24:14
June 26 2019 13:18 GMT
#190
On June 26 2019 21:22 Harris1st wrote:
There we goooooo!!



https://twitter.com/TaKeTV/status/1143858382786441223


Lol for a second I thought it was 8 four player group, it was imbalance as hell haha

On June 26 2019 21:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 21:51 DBooN wrote:
May I suggest "Scan-Demon"?

Wolf's mad ramblings hardly make for real nicknames! People actually call Serral Night King and it's absolutely cringeworthy.


It's sad because "The Finnish Phenom" is a great alternative
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 26 2019 13:21 GMT
#191
Night King is worse than Archangel Protoss or Scan Bandit
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 26 2019 13:23 GMT
#192
Archangel Protoss is good!
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 26 2019 13:32 GMT
#193
On June 26 2019 21:23 Harris1st wrote:
Lol I just remembered last HSC when the group order before and after was nearly the same. Let's see if it happens again :D

Did they tier-list the group order?
very illegal and very uncool
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2019 14:07 GMT
#194
On June 26 2019 22:21 Ej_ wrote:
Night King is worse than Archangel Protoss or Scan Bandit


Lool Archangel Protoss and Scan Bandit really are obscene. No way Night King is on par with these xD
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 26 2019 14:48 GMT
#195
Well obviously night king is a crap name but why are we hating on scan bandit? Perhaps the best Wolfism we've had.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
June 26 2019 15:50 GMT
#196
The real question is whether or not soO will bomb out to some foreigner Terran three tiers below him this time
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 26 2019 16:03 GMT
#197
Didn't know Creator was going, nice!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 26 2019 16:11 GMT
#198
Hope Creator can make it out of his group! Sad that Geoff isn't going but excited for yet another fun HSC
Mine gas, build tanks.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-26 16:40:10
June 26 2019 16:39 GMT
#199
On June 26 2019 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.

I don't know about that. Big Gabe is cringe as hell.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 26 2019 16:46 GMT
#200
On June 27 2019 01:39 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.

I don't know about that. Big Gabe is cringe as hell.


The thundershaft is also terrible
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 26 2019 17:21 GMT
#201
On June 27 2019 01:46 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2019 01:39 Boggyb wrote:
On June 26 2019 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.

I don't know about that. Big Gabe is cringe as hell.


The thundershaft is also terrible

ThunderShaft is just a synonym for LightningRod
very illegal and very uncool
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
June 26 2019 17:49 GMT
#202
Big Gabe is definitely one of the best nicknames we have in sc.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 26 2019 18:19 GMT
#203
On June 27 2019 02:21 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2019 01:46 Nakajin wrote:
On June 27 2019 01:39 Boggyb wrote:
On June 26 2019 21:46 Elentos wrote:
Also Night King is by far the shittiest nickname for any player in SC2. Which is ironic considering who it's used for.

I don't know about that. Big Gabe is cringe as hell.


The thundershaft is also terrible

ThunderShaft is just a synonym for LightningRod

It is very much a penis analogy
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 26 2019 19:56 GMT
#204
On June 27 2019 02:49 DBooN wrote:
Big Gabe is definitely one of the best nicknames we have in sc.

I'm going to assume this is an example of German "humor".
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
June 27 2019 07:57 GMT
#205
I mean, if the purpose of this thread is wild speculation to hype an event, then I'll guess:

We had four Jin Air players in HSC18, and we need two protoss. Trap might be too busy to avenge his GSL loss and 13-16th place in HSC 18, but Creator was 17-20th in HSC 18, and he plus sOs could really use the practice before GSL Season 3 given their Ro32 Season 2 showings.


And Creator joins HSC for the wild speculation win! Adding DnS and there are about half of the Aligulac Top 50 at the tourney, another really strong field in this great format.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
June 27 2019 08:34 GMT
#206
On June 26 2019 22:32 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 21:23 Harris1st wrote:
Lol I just remembered last HSC when the group order before and after was nearly the same. Let's see if it happens again :D

Did they tier-list the group order?



I guess so ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 27 2019 08:36 GMT
#207
Big Gabe is too big for smol boggy
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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