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On April 22 2018 02:12 Myrddrael wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 02:02 Nezgar wrote:
Both matches of Scarlett vs. Patience were among the worst games I have seen in a long time. It was 2 players competing to see who can make the biggest blunders. We saw Scarlett a-moving 7 Broodlords across the map, Patience sending 5 Tempests on a suicide mission into the Zerg base only for one of them to survive through no skill of his own, and then see that lone survivor take down almost all the remaining Broodlords because no one was paying any attention to a red-health capital ship wailing away at the most expensive unit in the army. 34 Mutas lost to randomly flying into Blink Stalkers and Archons. Initiating a base trade and then forgetting the win condition of a base trade in the process.
The amount of units lost because neither side was paying attention to the minimap and alerts was mind-boggling.
Someone in the LR thread asked whether we could just end the group and let no one advance in 2nd place. The 7 broodlords was Losira, but yeah, pretty bad series by both players. Says more about Scarlett, I think, given her success last season and then not being able to make it out of the arguably easiest group in the Ro32
I think you are correct on the Broodlords. But yeah, the Losira games were no better and I should have probably included them in my post as well.
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Sounds like this was pretty cringy, I will probably give it a shot 
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On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line?
What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from?
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On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from?
usopsama?
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On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from?
Solely? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they've whined repeatedly over the years and said to delete one of the races? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they exploit a loophole in the rules to the detriment of other players who don't have that option?
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On April 22 2018 00:20 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? Rogue?
*micdrop* 
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On April 22 2018 06:36 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from? Solely? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they've whined repeatedly over the years and said to delete one of the races? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they exploit a loophole in the rules to the detriment of other players who don't have that option?
I don't know why you're singling out Scarlett when pretty much everyone who didn't play Protoss in HotS complained about the race. And I hardly see foreigners playing in GSL as a loophole when it's explicitly in the rules that they're allowed to do that.
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On April 22 2018 02:18 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 02:12 Myrddrael wrote:On April 22 2018 02:02 Nezgar wrote:
Both matches of Scarlett vs. Patience were among the worst games I have seen in a long time. It was 2 players competing to see who can make the biggest blunders. We saw Scarlett a-moving 7 Broodlords across the map, Patience sending 5 Tempests on a suicide mission into the Zerg base only for one of them to survive through no skill of his own, and then see that lone survivor take down almost all the remaining Broodlords because no one was paying any attention to a red-health capital ship wailing away at the most expensive unit in the army. 34 Mutas lost to randomly flying into Blink Stalkers and Archons. Initiating a base trade and then forgetting the win condition of a base trade in the process.
The amount of units lost because neither side was paying attention to the minimap and alerts was mind-boggling.
Someone in the LR thread asked whether we could just end the group and let no one advance in 2nd place. The 7 broodlords was Losira, but yeah, pretty bad series by both players. Says more about Scarlett, I think, given her success last season and then not being able to make it out of the arguably easiest group in the Ro32 When you are favored, upsets work against you. Scarlett upset last season, now Scarlett gets upset. And so the circle continues.
Scarlett winning wasnt an upset, it was simply cheesed. That was patched
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Well i was reaaaally hoping would make it to the ro16 at least but, hey, she showed some good games in that first series anyway.
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I'm still waiting for Zergs to start using Nydus more.
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As a Losira fan from back in the day (I think I might be in his fan club on here?), those games against Gumiho were pretty rough to watch. It sounds like if he had surgery recently he probably didn't get to play as much for the last little bit because he seemed pretty rough here.
On April 22 2018 12:19 ThunderJunk wrote:
I'm still waiting for Zergs to start using Nydus more.
I'm continually surprised it isn't used way more against Protoss too. It's so strong, stopping it requires an almost perfect response and it hits before even warp gate is done usually. On maps like Backwater where Protoss often tries to do quick thirds it's particularly deadly.
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I did think Scarlett is the second best player in this group by a small margin. But let's be real, she's not an overwhelming favorite to advance. She played too 'comfortably' and did not play like an underdog like last season, almost as if she expected to win by just getting to the late game. She mixed in a lot of aggressive builds last season and that's what got her into Ro8. A single Ro8 appearance does not earn you the right to come unprepared in GSL. Last night she gave a very uninspiring performance. Next season, the group will not be this easy.
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On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from?
Blizzard
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On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from?
I don't think he dislikes Scarlett because of her nationality. He's quite clearly against players having unfair advantages and opportunities. So naturally he favours the ones who are more restricted, which in this case happened to be the koreans.
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I would feel sorry for scarlett for losing, but after watching her throw game 2 vs gumiho, she kind of deserved to lose the group.
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What if instead of drinking haterade and feeling sorry for people we just said GGs all, congrats to the winners, better luck next time to the losers? Or would that be too mature for this like 20 year old community? If you have a problem with the system that's fine but I don't think being passive (or actively) aggressive to the players is an intelligent solution.
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I cant believe how effective gumhios early pressure was in his tvz's. Usually when ive seen him do things like that hellbat+ marine build it gets slapped down or trades evenly but somehow this time he got 2 wins off it. I wonder if his opponents prepared properly for him since it feals like hes always liked to mix in these kind of pushes in his series. hes been doing some variant of marine hellion pressure into mech for years at this point and I expected the zerg players to have a better plan to stop it.
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I was rooting for Scarlet but she didn't deserve to advance based on a couple big mistakes. She had Gumiho on the ropes in game 2 then A-moved into one of the worst tank chokes I've ever seen that lost her the game and series.
Then, I loved seeing her big muta-ball against Patience, but she kept attacking archons and stalkers instead of just harassing mineral lines. Very confusing play.
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On April 23 2018 07:50 Arghmyliver wrote:
What if instead of drinking haterade and feeling sorry for people we just said GGs all, congrats to the winners, better luck next time to the losers? Or would that be too mature for this like 20 year old community? If you have a problem with the system that's fine but I don't think being passive (or actively) aggressive to the players is an intelligent solution.
But I don't want foreigners to have better luck next time. As long as the WCS is locked for Koreans I want GSL to be locked for foreigners.
So, uhm, no?
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On April 22 2018 06:36 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 06:12 Solar424 wrote:On April 21 2018 22:47 Boggyb wrote:
What do you call someone who wins a championship right after their race was buffed to the heavens after doing nothing for years, then immediately falls back to earth when the race is brought back in line? What do you call someone who actively attacks people based solely on the country they are from? Solely? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they've whined repeatedly over the years and said to delete one of the races? You're not allowed to dislike someone because they exploit a loophole in the rules to the detriment of other players who don't have that option?
Don't forget the skin incident.
One of the worst examples of poor sportsmanship I can remember.
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