• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:25
CET 01:25
KST 09:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win0RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2037 users

SC20 Anniversary Stream March 30th & 31st - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
170 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
March 27 2018 02:28 GMT
#21
HuK!!

Hell yeah. Been years since I've watched my favorite player!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada298 Posts
March 27 2018 02:39 GMT
#22
On March 27 2018 10:50 hiro protagonist wrote:
I think its fairly obvious that they will play both SC:RM and SC2


That's what I figured as well. Tasteless, Artosis, Idra, Day9, Ret, NonY, and WhiteRa were all BW pros, yes? Why would they have that many BW players on this thing and not play any SC:BW?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
March 27 2018 02:55 GMT
#23
On March 27 2018 10:49 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 10:47 negativedge wrote:
On March 27 2018 10:16 lun4tic0s wrote:
do you think that huk, livbee, pig and UpaTreeZelda will play an entertaiment BW matches?


I remember huk played brood war against boxer at some tournament where the SC2 servers went to shit and they had to kill time


That was kind of amusing, because TT1 basically coached him in real time from right next to him, and HuK almost won XD


He did win 1 game, he won on Longi and lost on LT.. Jessica wasn't pleased.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Redcloak
Profile Joined December 2002
United States530 Posts
March 27 2018 03:10 GMT
#24
On March 27 2018 08:19 chrisolo wrote:
Wow cool! SC2 getting 20 years old? Very nice of Blizzard to make an event for SC2's 20th birthday coming up in 2030.

Seriously though, why oh why would you make Starcraft I's 20th anniversary event about SC2 pretty much? Seriously this shit is starting to annoy even BW people that aren't that opposed to SC2 like me.


Why invite a "Livibee" or a "HuK" or a "PiG" or a "UpaTreeZelda"? Why not invite some koreans that can speak english reasonably well, f.e. JD and Sea and have them play a Best-Of-Seven of seven legendary maps throughout BW history (Lost Temple, Gaia, Luna, Andromeda, FS, etc etc)

Why not invite people that stuck with BW after SC2? Like a Bonyth or an EonZerg or anyone that can talk about the history of BW after SC2?
The reason that these people make for the ideal "personalities" is precisely because they were around from StarCraft into StarCraft 2. It's a celebration of the history not just the last few years.

You act as if "sticking with Brood War" was some sort of grand sacrifice on your part. Let's be serious here you just kept playing an old game. That's fine, but they aren't handing out medals for it.


Don't get me wrong, you can also invite one or two SC2 personalities since the forced switch of the korean pro scene had a severe impact on the current korean BW scene, but this feels like it is more about SC2 than about the "birthday child" aka Starcraft 1. And hence it feels like the people organizing this are shitting onto the legacy of BW, by just thinking about the BW history prior to SC2 and then it will probably be all about what happend in SC2. Sorry that feels like a betrayal to every BW fan that stuck around with BW after SC2.

What they're doing is inviting the people who are or were popular because that's what makes sense.

The rest of that paragraph where you rage about shitting on BW is... not to be taken seriously be reasonable people.


But I could be wrong. I never followed the community that closely...
Just Some Old Man
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
March 27 2018 03:29 GMT
#25
No terrans, but 2 randoms... Hmmmm. I hope for some entertaining games xD
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-27 08:42:12
March 27 2018 08:40 GMT
#26
On March 27 2018 12:29 chongu wrote:
No terrans, but 2 randoms... Hmmmm. I hope for some entertaining games xD


[image loading]
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-27 09:11:19
March 27 2018 08:56 GMT
#27
On March 27 2018 12:29 chongu wrote:
No terrans, but 2 randoms... Hmmmm. I hope for some entertaining games xD


well idra played terran in bw.. but yea they're probably gonna play both bw and sc2 matches
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
March 27 2018 09:01 GMT
#28
who wants some speshul taktiks
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 27 2018 09:09 GMT
#29
This is gonna be so fun, can't believe I'm going to be getting a nostalgia hit like this already at my age.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-27 11:14:21
March 27 2018 11:06 GMT
#30
On March 27 2018 11:39 breaker1328 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 10:50 hiro protagonist wrote:
I think its fairly obvious that they will play both SC:RM and SC2


That's what I figured as well. Tasteless, Artosis, Idra, Day9, Ret, NonY, and WhiteRa were all BW pros, yes? Why would they have that many BW players on this thing and not play any SC:BW?


They were amateurs. There was no such thing as a full time foreign bw pro. Idra and Nony got a pro gaming license for kespa during their career. [Both invited, not by winning a courage tournament.] Ret came short in the semis of a courage iirc. White-ra was a talented player, but amateur aswell. Tastosis and day 9 never made it that far as players, they were not playing at the top level 2008- 2009ish anymore too. They got the most reputation from casting and events. They were strong players of course, but you wouldn't find them in the top 16 of a tournament for foreigners often.


User was temp banned for this post.
Broodwar for life!
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
March 27 2018 17:26 GMT
#31
On March 27 2018 11:55 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 10:49 Waxangel wrote:
On March 27 2018 10:47 negativedge wrote:
On March 27 2018 10:16 lun4tic0s wrote:
do you think that huk, livbee, pig and UpaTreeZelda will play an entertaiment BW matches?


I remember huk played brood war against boxer at some tournament where the SC2 servers went to shit and they had to kill time


That was kind of amusing, because TT1 basically coached him in real time from right next to him, and HuK almost won XD


He did win 1 game, he won on Longi and lost on LT.. Jessica wasn't pleased.

I remember her trolling Huk, closing his eyes with her hands while playing... Cute memories.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-27 17:33:35
March 27 2018 17:33 GMT
#32
Isn't this like the 3rd time they've had basically the same event with largely the same cast of people? They'll probably tell the same stories they told the previous times as well.
Redcloak
Profile Joined December 2002
United States530 Posts
March 27 2018 18:22 GMT
#33
On March 27 2018 20:06 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 11:39 breaker1328 wrote:
On March 27 2018 10:50 hiro protagonist wrote:
I think its fairly obvious that they will play both SC:RM and SC2


That's what I figured as well. Tasteless, Artosis, Idra, Day9, Ret, NonY, and WhiteRa were all BW pros, yes? Why would they have that many BW players on this thing and not play any SC:BW?


They were amateurs. There was no such thing as a full time foreign bw pro. Idra and Nony got a pro gaming license for kespa during their career. [Both invited, not by winning a courage tournament.] Ret came short in the semis of a courage iirc. White-ra was a talented player, but amateur aswell. Tastosis and day 9 never made it that far as players, they were not playing at the top level 2008- 2009ish anymore too. They got the most reputation from casting and events. They were strong players of course, but you wouldn't find them in the top 16 of a tournament for foreigners often.

I hope you won't mind if I dispute you here a bit, as I do have a particular bit of experience here.

First, the idea that there "was no such thing" as a full-time foreign BW pro is false on all levels. While full-time pros in Korea were rare, even the very best players in the world have been foreigners (Grrr and to a lesser extent Elky).

I don't wish to get into an argument full of semantics, but let's agree for the sake of terminology that a "professional" is anyone who participates in a job for a reasonable amount of money.

By that definition, you're going to have to include Idra, NonY, ret, and White-Ra as pros. You say White-Ra was an amateur but by what conceivable measurement? He literally did pro gaming as a full-time job for half of a decade.

You're unfairly denigrating the quality of these players by establishing an arbitrary definition of the word professional. It would be like suggesting that someone in an office isn't a professional if they only earn 30k because the CEO is making millions of dollars a year.

As for "Tastosis" I'll give you that Tasteless was never at the level of the others. He was a very good American player, but wasn't at the level of Artosis or Day[9] as top Americans (still not pros).
Just Some Old Man
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 27 2018 18:53 GMT
#34
On March 28 2018 02:33 Boggyb wrote:
Isn't this like the 3rd time they've had basically the same event with largely the same cast of people? They'll probably tell the same stories they told the previous times as well.


I know right? And it will be just as entertaining.. aka more entertaining than just about everything else.

Sit back and enjoy the show my little anger muffin.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3416 Posts
March 27 2018 20:57 GMT
#35
Who are livibee and zelda? The link doesnt give much info. If they are there they must be well known sc2 folks.

Aside from that it s nice they are doing something. A lot of people from team media but i dont mind, they are fun.

Having Grrr would have been a blast though!
Horang2 fan
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 27 2018 21:46 GMT
#36
On March 28 2018 03:53 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 02:33 Boggyb wrote:
Isn't this like the 3rd time they've had basically the same event with largely the same cast of people? They'll probably tell the same stories they told the previous times as well.


I know right? And it will be just as entertaining.. aka more entertaining than just about everything else.

Sit back and enjoy the show my little anger muffin.

I understand why Blizzard would go to the same well considering the viewership of the previous events and why you'd want to do it (getting paid to joke, reminisce and play Starcraft sounds like a lot of fun), but not all viewers like to see the same thing over and over again. If I want to watch the best of iNcontroL, I'll pull up old HSC vods like Rogue Zest on New Gettysburg at HSC XIV.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
March 28 2018 00:32 GMT
#37
nice to see Greg make an appearance. Hope they play a good amount of BW!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 28 2018 03:26 GMT
#38
On March 28 2018 06:46 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 03:53 iNcontroL wrote:
On March 28 2018 02:33 Boggyb wrote:
Isn't this like the 3rd time they've had basically the same event with largely the same cast of people? They'll probably tell the same stories they told the previous times as well.


I know right? And it will be just as entertaining.. aka more entertaining than just about everything else.

Sit back and enjoy the show my little anger muffin.

I understand why Blizzard would go to the same well considering the viewership of the previous events and why you'd want to do it (getting paid to joke, reminisce and play Starcraft sounds like a lot of fun), but not all viewers like to see the same thing over and over again. If I want to watch the best of iNcontroL, I'll pull up old HSC vods like Rogue Zest on New Gettysburg at HSC XIV.


Yeah, it sucks you aren't getting everything you want. Hope you find a way to suffer through our show and tolerate the same ol drivel we bring each time..

lol
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33493 Posts
March 28 2018 07:25 GMT
#39
Hey this isn't the place for you two to have this particular argument. Everyone obviously has their own preferences in StarCraft events, and casters obviously feel shitty when someone's first response to an event is 'I don't like you.' Please go have this argument elsewhere.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 28 2018 14:49 GMT
#40
On March 28 2018 16:25 Waxangel wrote:
Hey this isn't the place for you two to have this particular argument. Everyone obviously has their own preferences in StarCraft events, and casters obviously feel shitty when someone's first response to an event is 'I don't like you.' Please go have this argument elsewhere.

A thread announcing an event isn't the place to have a discussion of the content of the event? Are you serious?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
CranKy Ducklings121
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 233
Nathanias 95
JuggernautJason50
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15134
Calm 2375
Artosis 575
NaDa 45
Counter-Strike
fl0m11477
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox987
C9.Mang0162
PPMD48
Other Games
Grubby3364
summit1g3192
shahzam534
Maynarde128
Trikslyr47
ForJumy 17
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick547
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream330
Other Games
BasetradeTV26
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 55
• davetesta33
• Adnapsc2 10
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22278
League of Legends
• Doublelift4640
Other Games
• imaqtpie1139
• Shiphtur210
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
11h 35m
PiGosaur Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 11h
OSC
1d 12h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 23h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.