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soO and Stats advance to the Code S semifinals

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Last Edited: 2018-03-21 22:13:31
March 09 2018 13:20 GMT
#1
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With IEM Katowice in the books, StarCraft returned to Korea for the first two quarterfinal matches of GSL Season 1. First up was a ZvZ between (Z)soO and (Z)Scarlett, with (P)Stats and (P)Classic taking the stage right after.

(Wiki)2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 1


Quarterfinal 1: soO 3 - 0 Scarlett
  • Game 1: soO and Scarlett both opened with 13/12's in game one, though neither was able to do any economic damage. Both went into two base spires, with similar timings on their thirds, but the game turned into a stalemate as both players amassed mutalisks. Scarlett made the decision to drone up and attempt to take a fourth base. Still on three bases, and with a much larger zergling count, soO ran his lings into Scarlett's fourth and then her base, while his mutalisks threatened the third base. The fourth died and so did 25 drones in Scarlett's main and natural. Her economy ravaged, she left the game.

  • Game 2: Scarlett failed to do any damage with her pool first opening, giving soO a slight economic advantage that he parlayed into faster +1 ranged attack and speed for his roaches. Scarlett droned heavily on three bases, which allowed soO to attack and claim a slight worker lead. Scarlett attempted to add hydralisks to her composition, but soO stayed on roach/ravager, hitting with +2 while Scarlett was on +1. Biles landed all over Scarlett's army as soO went up 2-0.

  • Game 3: Scarlett used her early gas to get +1 carapace for her zerglings, but soO, behind almost ten workers, flooded zerglings into her natural, hitting before her speed had finished. Scarlett only lost five workers in the initial attack, but she canceled her baneling nest while soO allowed his to finish which set him up for a lethal second wave. Roaches came out for Scarlett, but there weren't enough. With no hope for a comeback, Scarlett conceded, sending soO to the semifinals.

Quarterfinal 2: Stats 3 - 2 Classic
  • Game 1: Classic opted for a faster expansion in game one after opening stalker/sentry. Stats opted for blink and a faster robotics facility. It all turned into a waiting game as both players macroed into chargelot/archon/immortal. Stats was the one that moved out though, taking a fight near Classic's third. He was able to win the encounter, giving him a 1-0 lead.

  • Game 2: Stats' proxy robo and gateway failed to do critical damage on Ascension to Aiur, partly because Classic's oracle and adepts forced defensive warpins in Stats' main and killed a lot of probes, weakening the attack. Stats set up a contain with sentries and stalkers, but lost more workers to a pair of oracles which forced him into more aggression instead of attempting to macro. Classic had a void ray and immortal against pure stalker/sentry by then, which made the hold an easy one. Stats tapped out, evening the series.
  • Game 3: Classic went for a two base all in with an immortal and a warp prism in game three. Stats held a double digit worker lead and blink when the attack hit, but he was never able to match Classic's stalker count and fell behind 2-1.
  • Game 4: Classic and Stats both opened stargate, with Stats going for three phoenixes then an oracle. They combined for nearly ten worker kills, but Classic's pair of oracles managed to kill 15 probes in reply. Classic had a worker lead and a faster third, but Stats had immortals in his composition and a forge spinning while Classic did not. Classic felt forced to attack Stats' third due to his upgrade disadvantage, but +2 finished in time for Stats and, combined with good prism micro, easily won him the fight. With very little left, Classic tapped out soon after as Stats' counterattack destroyed his army.
  • Game 5:Three phoenixes and a pair of adepts chipped away at Stats' worker count, who took the more exposed third on Neon Violet Square. Both players macroed up over 130 supply, with Stats making the first move as he crashed into Classic's fourth base with a higher archon count and less immortals. Distracted by zealots running into his natural, Classic lost the fight and his fourth base. Stats gave him no time to recover. A little more pressure broke Classic as Stats took the match 3-2.



(Z)soO and (P)Stats advance to the first semifinal on March 14th.

Matches 3 ((P)Zest vs (Z)Dark) and 4 ((T)Maru vs (P)sOs) of the Round of 4 will be played on Saturday, Mar 10 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

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franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 14:16:41
March 09 2018 14:15 GMT
#2
Soooo are people still going to say Stats has lost his game?

So underrated! Stats please go to the finals.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 14:18:03
March 09 2018 14:16 GMT
#3
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
March 09 2018 14:41 GMT
#4
According to TL predictions, Stats should've been out of GSL in the round of 32. FeelsGoodMan

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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
March 09 2018 14:50 GMT
#5
I was betting on soO and Stats. soO far soO good!
Why so serious?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 14:52:10
March 09 2018 14:51 GMT
#6
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
March 09 2018 14:52 GMT
#7
OG chintoss vs neo chintoss
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 14:55:08
March 09 2018 14:54 GMT
#8
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 15:10:22
March 09 2018 15:09 GMT
#9
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.

Mvp won 3 GSLs and one Korea + World Allstar thingy, so I guess that Fango didn't count the Korea vs the World one as a real GSL final.

Let's just call it Code S finals to clarify.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
March 09 2018 15:11 GMT
#10
stats <3
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 09 2018 15:36 GMT
#11
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 09 2018 15:39 GMT
#12
On March 10 2018 00:36 Morbidius wrote:
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?


Because it was labelled a GSL then by GSL itself. I agree it's silly, doesn't count for Zest either, but it is what it is.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 15:46:28
March 09 2018 15:42 GMT
#13
On March 10 2018 00:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 00:36 Morbidius wrote:
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?


Because it was labelled a GSL then by GSL itself. I agree it's silly, doesn't count for Zest either, but it is what it is.

So when GSL was called WCS Korea it does also not count as a GSL win? The labeling is the important part?

Whatever, it's really silly as you said and what counts is if it was a Code S or not. And soO was in the most Code S finals.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 09 2018 15:44 GMT
#14
On March 10 2018 00:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 00:36 Morbidius wrote:
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?


Because it was labelled a GSL then by GSL itself. I agree it's silly, doesn't count for Zest either, but it is what it is.

Yeah now that GOM is dead we should just pretend that never happened.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
XiZeL
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland92 Posts
March 09 2018 15:44 GMT
#15
now its (Z)soO all the Way!!!
I watch more starcraft than i play it
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 09 2018 15:48 GMT
#16
On March 10 2018 00:42 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 00:39 Olli wrote:
On March 10 2018 00:36 Morbidius wrote:
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?


Because it was labelled a GSL then by GSL itself. I agree it's silly, doesn't count for Zest either, but it is what it is.

So when GSL was called WCS Korea it does also not count as a GSL win? The labeling is the important part?

Whatever, it's really silly as you said and what counts is if it was a Code S or not. And soO was in the most Code S finals.


It was held by GOM so it counts? I dunno, I don't decide the general consensus. All I know is GOM made a G5L trophy for Mvp in case he beat Life, because the community had agreed he'd won four GSLs.

Personally I don't really care, I'd just like a bit of consistency.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 09 2018 15:56 GMT
#17
On March 10 2018 00:48 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 00:42 Musicus wrote:
On March 10 2018 00:39 Olli wrote:
On March 10 2018 00:36 Morbidius wrote:
I wonder why Mvp GSL vs the world counts as a GSL for him but it never does for Inno. Fanboys need to prop up his image or something?


Because it was labelled a GSL then by GSL itself. I agree it's silly, doesn't count for Zest either, but it is what it is.

So when GSL was called WCS Korea it does also not count as a GSL win? The labeling is the important part?

Whatever, it's really silly as you said and what counts is if it was a Code S or not. And soO was in the most Code S finals.


It was held by GOM so it counts? I dunno, I don't decide the general consensus. All I know is GOM made a G5L trophy for Mvp in case he beat Life, because the community had agreed he'd won four GSLs.

Personally I don't really care, I'd just like a bit of consistency.

Oh yeah that trophy was sick.

I also think we need consistency, so we just have to add Code S I think. So Mvp was in 6 GSL finals, but soO was in 6 Code S finals and that's more impressive.

Of course Mvp > soO since he actually won finals .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
March 09 2018 16:00 GMT
#18
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.

I guess reading that reminded me why Mvp is still the GOAT, wow.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 16:57:37
March 09 2018 16:52 GMT
#19
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.


Weekender/korea vs the world style events don't count. They aren't nearly as fair or competitive as a Code S. People only think they are because it has GSL in the name.

Code S is what people refer to when they say "X won GSL".
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 09 2018 16:56 GMT
#20
On March 10 2018 00:09 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.

Mvp won 3 GSLs and one Korea + World Allstar thingy, so I guess that Fango didn't count the Korea vs the World one as a real GSL final.

Let's just call it Code S finals to clarify.


Blame liquipedia I just took a look at their medals ranking
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pieroog
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland146 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-09 22:11:56
March 09 2018 17:03 GMT
#21
The funniest part was Stats laughing at Classic for giving him 7/10 points for knowledge on his opponent's race.

edit:
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33552 Posts
March 09 2018 17:32 GMT
#22
Daaaamn PvP unpredictable as always
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GrandTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
71 Posts
March 09 2018 17:36 GMT
#23
Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 09 2018 19:28 GMT
#24
Thought GSL wasn't until tomorrow, guess I missed it
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
March 09 2018 19:58 GMT
#25
Stats is the most solid and well rounded protoss of all time IMO.

Great army positioning and micro int hese battles. The two losses seemed mostly build order related.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 09 2018 20:01 GMT
#26
On March 10 2018 02:36 GrandTerran wrote:
Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro

Stats 4/10 micro according to Classic lol
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 09 2018 20:18 GMT
#27
On March 10 2018 05:01 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 02:36 GrandTerran wrote:
Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro

Stats 4/10 micro according to Classic lol

And Classic 10/10 knowledge because he is a Protoss, proven by his chin.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 09 2018 21:47 GMT
#28
Stats the god. Sit down Classic.
gtbex
Profile Joined March 2017
Poland39 Posts
March 09 2018 22:14 GMT
#29
Overdrone :/
Pressure!
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
March 09 2018 22:36 GMT
#30
On March 10 2018 02:36 GrandTerran wrote:
Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro


I don't think that's really it. Stats had superior Tactics and upgrade advantages.
Et tu Brute ?
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
March 10 2018 10:47 GMT
#31
Dude...soO is a freaking monster. Unbelievable how good he is at the game and how long he's been in form.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
March 10 2018 13:10 GMT
#32
soO is unstoppable before final
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 10 2018 23:37 GMT
#33
On March 10 2018 01:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.


Weekender/korea vs the world style events don't count. They aren't nearly as fair or competitive as a Code S. People only think they are because it has GSL in the name.

Code S is what people refer to when they say "X won GSL".


So, if we only count Code S; what about the open seasons? Do we take them them away as well? What about the Super Tournament, that Polt won? Is that gone as well? This tournament happened in a time, when GSL was still young and we didn't know, that a clear Code-S/Code-A-structure would continue to exist for 7 years.

GSL vs World is considered a "real" GSL, because it was seen as such, when it happened. It was considered as important as a Code-S-win, when it happened. Describing it as something minor is just wrong, if you consider the historical context.

After all, isn't elevating something because it has "Code S" in the name the same thing as elevating something because it has "GSL" in the name?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 11 2018 00:33 GMT
#34
On March 11 2018 08:37 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2018 01:52 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:51 Fango wrote:
On March 09 2018 23:16 Nakajin wrote:
If my count is right SoO overcome INnovation and is now the second players with the most GSL semifinal with 7, MVP is still first with 8. He will have the chance to became the player with most final if when he beat Stats.


He already has more finals (6) than MVP (5) or Inno (4)


Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals.


Weekender/korea vs the world style events don't count. They aren't nearly as fair or competitive as a Code S. People only think they are because it has GSL in the name.

Code S is what people refer to when they say "X won GSL".


So, if we only count Code S; what about the open seasons? Do we take them them away as well? What about the Super Tournament, that Polt won? Is that gone as well? This tournament happened in a time, when GSL was still young and we didn't know, that a clear Code-S/Code-A-structure would continue to exist for 7 years.

GSL vs World is considered a "real" GSL, because it was seen as such, when it happened. It was considered as important as a Code-S-win, when it happened. Describing it as something minor is just wrong, if you consider the historical context.

After all, isn't elevating something because it has "Code S" in the name the same thing as elevating something because it has "GSL" in the name?


You're missing the point. It's nothing to do with the name. Being called Code S is no different to being called WCS korea, or GSL open season or whatever. The point is, when you say someone "won GSL" it means they won a particular season. That's what matters.

When Innovation plays in GSL he's labelled with three gold medals, not four. When Zest plays he's labelled with two etc. Afreeca don't include GSLvsTW and GSL world championship events for a reason.

Random weekend tournaments shouldn't be included. Gom/Afreeca have run plenty of those over the years (GSL blizzard cup, Hot6 cup, GSL vs the world events, Super tournament, GSL world cup etc). Just because some of them have GSL in the name doesn't mean they carry the same prestige as Code S (or similar).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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