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No surprises as soO and Zest advance from GSL Ro32

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Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 13:20:58
January 17 2018 12:43 GMT
#1
The GSL Code S continued with its third week of games, perhaps featuring the most stacked group in the Round of 32. Two time GSL champion (P)Zest and six time finalist (Z)soO headlined Group D, while a pair of in-form challengers in (T)Bunny and (Z)NoRegreT suggested there could be exciting games ahead.

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Initial match 1: NoRegreT's three hatchery opening bought him a lead in game one, but soO's superior ling/bane micro allowed him to double NoRegreT's worker count in that game and the second. Roaches sealed the deal in game one, but were not even needed on Blackpink as soO won 2-0.

Initial match 2: Bunny leapt out to a lead in game one after a strong defense against adept/phoenix set up a lethal counterattack, but was unable to deal with three armor chargelots and archons in game two. Game three was a quick one, with proxied stalkers ending things in Zest's favor.

Winners' match: Zest went for chargelot/archon builds on Catalyst and Ascension to Aiur, but soO undermined his efforts with zergling runbys. His economy disrupted and his attention split, Zest's pushes fell flat in the face of hydras as soO claimed two straight victories and a spot in the Round of 16.



Losers' match: NoRegreT losing his third to thors was critical to him falling behind 1-0, but he evened the series with a hydralisk timing that caught Bunny with only two tanks. NoRegreT’s early zerglings proved wasted supply in game three, allowing Bunny to parlay his lead into a fatal mech push.

Decider match: Bunny pulled the boys in game one, but his SCVs got caught in a stasis ward while his vikings failed to target fire Zest's colossi. Bunny sniped Zest's third in game two, but Zest defended, even sniping a triple drop with stalkers before cleaning Bunny up to advance in second place.


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SnowAngel
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland38 Posts
January 17 2018 12:46 GMT
#2
I feel sorry for noregret, considering he was very ill and all.
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
January 17 2018 13:10 GMT
#3
I thought I was out but Soo pulled me back in.
This GSL is the one!
Killmo
Profile Joined October 2011
China82 Posts
January 17 2018 13:15 GMT
#4
I'd like to half agree with you. There was no surprise in the result. What I thought was a surprise in that, when soO and Zest met, soO almost made Zest (I think the best Protoss on earth right now) look like just "some" grandmaster Protoss player. soO so often looks incredibly strong in the ro32 and ro16.
Jasper_Ty
Profile Joined July 2017
101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 14:18:05
January 17 2018 14:17 GMT
#5
noregret got supply blocked a lot
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
January 17 2018 14:23 GMT
#6
soO stomped them. As Artosis said, at no point were his games ever even close.
IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
January 17 2018 14:28 GMT
#7
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.
MKStyles
Profile Joined April 2017
106 Posts
January 17 2018 15:08 GMT
#8
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.


I doubt that part, got lucky with the hydra timing thats all
StarDraKe
Profile Joined January 2009
France65 Posts
January 17 2018 15:13 GMT
#9
Better to not face SoO before the grand final ... he looks really easy and above zest.
Swash91
Profile Joined June 2017
26 Posts
January 17 2018 15:28 GMT
#10
On January 17 2018 21:46 SnowAngel wrote:
I feel sorry for noregret, considering he was very ill and all.

Well...with around 1500 aligulac score he barely had an chance...
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 17 2018 15:30 GMT
#11
I think it was just Zest using a shitty build especially against soO, that archon drop rarely works especially against someone as good as soO in the early/mid game.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 17 2018 16:04 GMT
#12
On January 18 2018 00:30 Zaros wrote:
I think it was just Zest using a shitty build especially against soO, that archon drop rarely works especially against someone as good as soO in the early/mid game.

Unfortunately, Zest doesn't know other builds.
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Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
January 17 2018 16:56 GMT
#13
SOOOOOO
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 17 2018 17:25 GMT
#14
That really fucking sucks for Jake, ill or not this group was hard as hell. Never gonna complain about seeing more Zest and soo
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 17 2018 17:38 GMT
#15
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
tekrebel
Profile Joined June 2012
56 Posts
January 17 2018 18:06 GMT
#16
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


This is all Michael Jordons fault
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 17 2018 19:05 GMT
#17
HELL YEAH SOOOOO GET EM!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 17 2018 20:54 GMT
#18
On January 18 2018 03:06 tekrebel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


This is all Michael Jordons fault

I don't get it oO Why not blame Canada instead?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 17 2018 21:04 GMT
#19
On January 18 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 00:30 Zaros wrote:
I think it was just Zest using a shitty build especially against soO, that archon drop rarely works especially against someone as good as soO in the early/mid game.

Unfortunately, Zest doesn't know other builds.


He might. I thought he only knew one PvT build, but he showed us that phoenix build (which was probably worse than his regular build, but w/e) against Bunny.
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 23:12:38
January 17 2018 23:12 GMT
#20
On January 18 2018 06:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 01:04 Ej_ wrote:
On January 18 2018 00:30 Zaros wrote:
I think it was just Zest using a shitty build especially against soO, that archon drop rarely works especially against someone as good as soO in the early/mid game.

Unfortunately, Zest doesn't know other builds.


He might. I thought he only knew one PvT build, but he showed us that phoenix build (which was probably worse than his regular build, but w/e) against Bunny.


zest occasionally uses phoenix on certain maps where there is space that can't be reached by stalkers. At least this is my observation when i watch his streams
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-17 23:45:54
January 17 2018 23:43 GMT
#21
that zest vs soo game was brutal. It felt like soo could put lings in zests base whenever he felt like it. I just don't get zest sometimes when he plays he just seems perfect, very smart and nearly untouchable but every so often he has series like this one where he doesn't even look close to the level of his opponent. I hope going forward we see the good zest and not the off his game shaky zest.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
RecklessCraft
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada27 Posts
January 18 2018 04:20 GMT
#22
i had faith for young noregret but the blasted human body is so weak with its susceptibility to viruses!
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
January 18 2018 07:57 GMT
#23
On January 18 2018 13:20 RecklessCraft wrote:
i had faith for young noregret but the blasted human body is so weak with its susceptibility to viruses!


yeah its a bummer. He seemed strategically ontop of things but was making mechanical mistakes. I bet that he would have showed much better games had he felt better.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
January 18 2018 14:37 GMT
#24
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


Uh, no. Making Code S is a once in a lifetime chance for most foreigners. You fucking take that shit unless someones gonna kill your mama.
nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
January 18 2018 16:22 GMT
#25
On January 18 2018 16:57 washikie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 13:20 RecklessCraft wrote:
i had faith for young noregret but the blasted human body is so weak with its susceptibility to viruses!


yeah its a bummer. He seemed strategically ontop of things but was making mechanical mistakes. I bet that he would have showed much better games had he felt better.



well I dont know if I would consider his mass ling vs mech to be a strategically ontop of things kind of choice.
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
January 19 2018 08:06 GMT
#26
On January 19 2018 01:22 nick00bot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 16:57 washikie wrote:
On January 18 2018 13:20 RecklessCraft wrote:
i had faith for young noregret but the blasted human body is so weak with its susceptibility to viruses!


yeah its a bummer. He seemed strategically ontop of things but was making mechanical mistakes. I bet that he would have showed much better games had he felt better.



well I dont know if I would consider his mass ling vs mech to be a strategically ontop of things kind of choice.


I think his allins seemed bad in part because he was making mental errors no regret has some really strong allins, mabey if he's on his game he gets a few more to work. But yeah I see your point I'm not sold on the number of lings he made vs mech in some of those games, he did admitdly trade really well vs the hellions in his first game vs mech but it did not seem to matter.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 19 2018 09:54 GMT
#27
On January 18 2018 23:37 TronJovolta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


Uh, no. Making Code S is a once in a lifetime chance for most foreigners. You fucking take that shit unless someones gonna kill your mama.

My view is different. Health is the most precious thing you have and playing with a real fever is an idiotic decision you need a serious reason for(e.g. your kid has fever as well). This comes from a guy who had 40+ C fevers in his life on several occasions so I dare to say I know what I'm talking about. Believe me, if you have fever(and in CZE this means 38 C+) you would have to be on the level of Innovation at his peak with favoring race to at least have a chance. No offense to NoRegret, but he's nowhere near that level. And playing with a fever is a hazardous situation. He doesn't even get good money from it, just some low level internet fame.

Sure, he may never be there again, but at the same time in 10 years all these "this doesn't kill me" situations can get summed up and some part of his body will say - nope, I'm too old for this. And honestly, this isn't worth it.

Maybe I'm just too old, but believe me that my "sins" from youth caught me and it's not anything pleasant. Speaking of my own experience
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 19 2018 10:06 GMT
#28
On January 18 2018 23:37 TronJovolta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


Uh, no. Making Code S is a once in a lifetime chance for most foreigners. You fucking take that shit unless someones gonna kill your mama.


It used to be. Not so much any longer.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 19 2018 10:23 GMT
#29
On January 19 2018 19:06 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 23:37 TronJovolta wrote:
On January 18 2018 02:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:28 IcemanAsi wrote:
On January 17 2018 23:17 Jasper_Ty wrote:
noregret got supply blocked a lot


noregret looked feverish as hell, the fact he was able to win a map in that condition is amazing.

If NoRegret had fever he should have been in the bed. No offense to him but
1) In this state the chance of winning are extremly low(not that his chances were high before)
2) He's hurting his health and that's one of the most important things he have

I know this would suck, but I bet that everybody, GSL included, would understand that in this state it's better to give free wins.

Get well, man.


Uh, no. Making Code S is a once in a lifetime chance for most foreigners. You fucking take that shit unless someones gonna kill your mama.


It used to be. Not so much any longer.

I mean...especially since he's made it once before.
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