EPTThe Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy - Page 10
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kaboombaby
United States90 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
Either way the common argument that TL(moderators/writers/whatever) is terran biased and only whine on other races is utter bull. If any of you were here during the periods of terran dominance I don't know how you missed it, what IS new here though is calling a pro player a patchchampion, in an officiell TL endorsed article. It is true, go back in time a year something like this would have been locked and banned no matter what part of the forum you posted it in. Now its official article being defended by moderators, its not terran bias its just the site changing, how and why I don't know, maybe some people got too much power. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On January 14 2018 19:33 Shuffleblade wrote: I disagree with this article, as i have previously posted. The article is clearly structured to argue the opinion of Rogue being a patchzerg, take away the last paragraph and at least its not clearly stated as the most fitting description of him but that really pushes it way past the line. Either way the common argument that TL(moderators/writers/whatever) is terran biased and only whine on other races is utter bull. If any of you were here during the periods of terran dominance I don't know how you missed it, what IS new here though is calling a pro player a patchchampion, in an officiell TL endorsed article. It is true, go back in time a year something like this would have been locked and banned no matter what part of the forum you posted it in. Now its official article being defended by moderators, its not terran bias its just the site changing, how and why I don't know, maybe some people got too much power. Yeah TL writers totally never pushed the story that INnoVation is only strong when Terran is strong. | ||
Poopi
France12891 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On January 14 2018 20:21 Durnuu wrote: Yeah TL writers totally never pushed the story that INnoVation is only strong when Terran is strong. Yes indeed, I've never read TL writers saying that Inno only could win in a single patch and that we never saw him in a top 16 unless terran were favored as a race. If you don't think there's a different between saying that a player of race X normally don't make the finals unless their race is also considered strong and calling a world champion for a patchzerg then lets agree to disagree. | ||
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TypeOfT
14 Posts
Let's see how Rogue fairs in 2018! | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On January 14 2018 04:57 Ej_ wrote: Is there any source on that besides gossip? I coudln't find anything back when I googled asking tl writers to have sources for their claims. lol | ||
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On January 14 2018 21:06 Shuffleblade wrote: Yes indeed, I've never read TL writers saying that Inno only could win in a single patch and that we never saw him in a top 16 unless terran were favored as a race. If you don't think there's a different between saying that a player of race X normally don't make the finals unless their race is also considered strong and calling a world champion for a patchzerg then lets agree to disagree. As silly as it is, they did a lot of time implies that INno is only strong when terran is strong. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On January 14 2018 21:06 Shuffleblade wrote: Yes indeed, I've never read TL writers saying that Inno only could win in a single patch and that we never saw him in a top 16 unless terran were favored as a race. If you don't think there's a different between saying that a player of race X normally don't make the finals unless their race is also considered strong and calling a world champion for a patchzerg then lets agree to disagree. You've never read that because it's factually incorrect. Inno won multiple tournaments on multiple different patches across multiple years. Some people (and some TL staff) have called him a patchterran, but nobody says he's a single-patch abuser because that's simply wrong. Rogue on the other hand literally won all of his tournaments on the hydra patch. From the hydra buff on March 7, 2017 until Blizzcon, Zerg recieved 0 balance changes (unless you count burrow visibility). Comparing Rogue to Inno is a false equivalence fallacy. Rogue is not a patchzerg, in my eyes. But Rogue and Inno are in very different positions. | ||
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Veluvian
Bulgaria256 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It seems that Rogue has faded after his last matches in Code S just like Dear did after such a dominance during the second half of 2013. I think that Life was the only one who could keep his best form after Blizzcon grand finals. Actually I haven't seen Rogue in mirror matches against top zergs like Dark, soO or Solar in order to calculate how strong he is against zergs. Starcraft is very complicated web of possibilities. Both aLive and Rogue defeated Innovation in his strong performance for the whole 2017 and now they experience same issues, because aLive could not manage to win any long waited trophy last year and now Rogue failed. | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
I reserve that title for the 16% of total players who are truly underserving zerg right now in the 50-25-25 split you see in tournaments that weren't in the balanced 34-33-33. Should I name a few zerg who wouldn't stand a chance without the steady overall increase in abilities of the zergling, baneling, overlord, roach, hydralisk, viper, ultralisk, corruptor, and queen since HOTS? That would probably make a few people angry. No, instead, I will speak well of the zerg who deserve speaking well of: I really like seeing Snute, Rogue, soO, Solar, Dark, Leenock, and the like play - precisely because their builds look like they could still win when they win if zerg decreased in overall power by 10%. I don't care for the rest. | ||
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belgid
Israel13 Posts
On January 12 2018 03:45 loft wrote: "patch zerg" seriously F off. Rogue is the zerg of zergs. Somehow he makes those "gimmicky" strategies work against the best players in the world (when you compare him to sOs the king of gimmicks?). Rogue is reactionary and willing to go against the meta. His style is unparalleled and finally came to light. Add on his mastery of late game compositions and control and he's the best zerg in town. lol who wrote the shitty article? How can ANYONE call Rouge Patchzerg? This is just crap. I think TL should be ashamed that this words ever saw daylight. | ||
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Topin
Peru10082 Posts
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helenaalfred83
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CBAS2TheHumanLife
Korea (South)29 Posts
you clearly have no idea about what you write | ||
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CBAS2TheHumanLife
Korea (South)29 Posts
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Boggyb
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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